Hydrogen Peroxide for Germination - No or Go?

vorus

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I have been looking into this method and talked to some members in this forum as well... it is generally claimed by the users of h2o2 that their seeds definitely have a higher percentage of germination rate when soaked in this diluted water for 12-18-24 hours period of time.

It is believed that especially the older seeds with a lower chance of sprouting will do better using this method and the concentration ranges from 5ml to 30ml of 3% hydrogen peroxide per 500ml of distilled water. So it is between 0.03% - 0.18% range suggested by the users for the above mentioned time frames.

Some say it is good for killing pathogens on the seeds that have been touched by so many people, some say it clears the wax and softens the shell for an easier sprout, some say it helps the seed use oxygen better...

While further looking into it, I came across the attached pdf of a study that has been made on zinnia seeds, using 3% to 12% hydrogen peroxide solutions, so I decided to share in case someone stumbles upon this post while looking into this method like I have been and make their life easier. There are differences of course, firstly the study was not conducted on cannabis seeds, and the concentration of h2o2 was far more stronger than what weed growers suggest but the seeds were also soaked for far less time, ranging between 10 to 60 minutes.

You can check the study and read every outcome for yourself but in summary, only a 3% solution of hydrogen peroxide is suggested to be used and the soaking should be 10 to 20 minutes long at most. Other than that, plain water outperforms on all timeframes and concentrations...
So you might even lower your chances of a sprout if you use h2o2. But then again, I doubt using 0.03% of peroxide for 12 hours of soaking would actually damage your seed, it MIGHT even be doing some good, yet there is no science behind that.

I personally will soak my seeds in 3% hydrogen peroxide for 15 minutes, rinse, and soak them in 5.5 ph balanced plain RO water for the next 18 hours before planting them in soaked rockwool. In case any of them do not sprout, I might try my chances with longer times of h2o2 moistened towels before throwing them off...

I hope this helps someone :bigjoint:
 

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Bose

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No. Use a moist paper towel folded in half place seed in between. Then place towel inside ziploc bag. Put the bag in a dark warm place. Germs in a couple of days or so.
 

vorus

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No. Use a moist paper towel folded in half place seed in between. Then place towel inside ziploc bag. Put the bag in a dark warm place. Germs in a couple of days or so.
Have you even read?
 

TacoMac

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Jesus Christ on a crutch!

Somebody somewhere is laughing his or her ass off because you even entertained the idea of putting a seed made for soil and water into hydrogen peroxide.

What the hell kind of new stupid are we dealing with here?
 

Beehive

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I have never used hydrogen peroxide on seeds. Plain mineral water or tap. The tap has enough chlorine to kill anything that'll attack a seed in 12 hours.

You're trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist.
 

TacoMac

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No. Use a moist paper towel folded in half place seed in between. Then place towel inside ziploc bag. Put the bag in a dark warm place. Germs in a couple of days or so.
I leave the ziplock cracked open. I don't seal it totally and I just toss it up on the window sill behind the sink. I've never had a seed fail.
 

vorus

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Jesus Christ on a crutch!

Somebody somewhere is laughing his or her ass off because you even entertained the idea of putting a seed made for soil and water into hydrogen peroxide.

What the hell kind of new stupid are we dealing with here?
It is actually SCIENTIFICALLY proven to somehow work better with a low concentration in a short period of time... but you obviously know better :)
 

TacoMac

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Yeah. Sure. Right. OK.

Sell your bullshit someplace else. Water works fine. It has since before man ever walked the earth. But do continue trying to reinvent the wheel on a level so stupid you're getting laughed out of this forum before you even get a toe hold.
 

vorus

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I have never used hydrogen peroxide on seeds. Plain mineral water or tap. The tap has enough chlorine to kill anything that'll attack a seed in 12 hours.

You're trying to fix a problem that doesn't exist.
The claim is, if the seed is already going to sprout without any problems, h2o2 won't do any harm, but if the seed is old or deformed in any way that has a lower chance to survive, h202 actually does better. In fact it turned out the claim is true, but not as much as proposed :)
 

vorus

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Yeah. Sure. Right. OK.

Sell your bullshit someplace else. Water works fine. It has since before man ever walked the earth. But do continue trying to reinvent the wheel on a level so stupid you're getting laughed out of this forum before you even get a toe hold.
You must be a proud Trump supporter... shouldn't you be at the rally with your cult? :D
 

TacoMac

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The claim is, if the seed is already going to sprout without any problems, h2o2 won't do any harm, but if the seed is old or deformed in any way that has a lower chance to survive, h202 actually does better. In fact it turned out the claim is true, but not as much as proposed :)
So, in other words, if there's no problem with the seed it's not going to make a difference and if there is a problem with the seed it's probably not going to make a difference either.

Great. Groundbreaking. Awesome.
 

TacoMac

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You must be a proud Trump supporter... shouldn't you be at the rally with your cult? :D
Look here, asshat: You signed up to this place nearly a DECADE ago and have made a grand total of 20 posts; 5 of which are in this thread, ALL of which were made in the last month.

You're obviously a botter account selling bullshit to people.

And you are very, very bad at it.
 

vorus

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So, in other words, if there's no problem with the seed it's not going to make a difference and if there is a problem with the seed it's probably not going to make a difference either.

Great. Groundbreaking. Awesome.
How dumb has to be someone to read the above sentence and understand this? lol

Look here, asshat: You signed up to this place nearly a DECADE ago and have made a grand total of 20 posts; 5 of which are in this thread.

You're obviously a botter account selling bullshit to people.

And you are very, very bad at it.
A botter account? Wtf is that and what am I trying to sell? Just read the fucking paper I shared and learn some shit you ignorant fuck...
 

TacoMac

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A botter account? Wtf is that and what am I trying to sell? Just read the fucking paper I shared and learn some shit you ignorant fuck...
Let's take a look at you:

Vorus Profile.jpg

So you mean to tell me you signed up here on November 18th, 2012 and then you waited.

And waited.

And waited.

And waited.

And bided your time.

And just read.

And then mulled it over.

And mulled it over some more.

And then you made your first post 8 years, 1 month and 22 days later?

That's the kind of shit bots do. They sign up for multiple accounts at the same time, then come back to them when they get banned later on one by one.

So, tell me new sock puppet, what was the name of your account that got banned?
 

MICHI-CAN

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If you would take a step and a breath while allowing my opinion?

I use a water germ method. An H2O2 misting of container before adding water, while peroxide is still wet, is a constant practice. Kills pathogens and contributes slight amount of O2 into water. Spritzing seeds prior to dropping also cleans the seed and slightly softens the shell. Standard practice in commercial greenhouses for other plants.

So, peace please folks. Debate. Not attack.
 

TacoMac

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If you would take a step and a breath while allowing my opinion?

I use a water germ method. An H2O2 misting of container before adding water, while peroxide is still wet, is a constant practice. Kills pathogens and contributes slight amount of O2 into water. Spritzing seeds prior to dropping also cleans the seed and slightly softens the shell. Standard practice in commercial greenhouses for other plants.

So, peace please folks. Debate. Not attack.
So that's your alt you prepared for when you get banned again, eh?

Yeah. That makes perfect sense.
 
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