DWC for beginners

onthedl0008

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2 plants per pot caddy vegged at 12 - 14 inches bro. 6 five inch pots per tub.No current pics with 12 palnts per tub in the flower room got set back, but do have pics of my next batch vegging!
Bro if you do use single bucket u can put up 2 two clones per bucket vegged at 1 foot tall max. Heres a link to my most current updated grow dude. stop by and check it out its turning out quite interesting.

https://www.rollitup.org/newbie-central/127741-interesting-dwc-bagseed-grow-juicy.html

Ive got 2 females here that i vegged about 12-14 inches and in flower that have topped out at 39 inches current. Actully these plants are in a single bucket lol but as you will see i have other plans for this one.
 

onthedl0008

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Hey leggo heres something i thought id put together for ya just cuz i had 3 seedlings already started in some plugs that today just turned 6 days old.
Germed for about a day and a half in a paper towl inside a cup with a half inch of water in the bottom at all times.
Took my jiffy plugs and squeezed them out in a simple bowl of tap water until soaking wet. Before i put the seedling in i squeeze out any excess water but its still damp.
Then i just drop the germed seed into the whole on top of the plug taproot down.It will seat itself in the plug.Then i put those right on top of my clone bucket under the cfls.
As you will see i should have checked the plugs yesterday cuz they should be in the bubbler by now.
When i transplant these into the bucket im putting them all 3 into a 5 inch net pot with 2 inches of hydroton in the bottom of it. Ill put the plugs in and cover the rest of the way with hydroton.
Next i put this net pot in the bucket with my water level 1/2 below the bottom of the bucket. Then i forget about them! I dont even put nuts in the water till the roots start hitting it!
Get these plugs bro!

Hey ive included a couple pics of some clones in a bucket.They were just like urs for a few days while building root structure. But a week and a half later are getting to big for my clone area and in another week will be going into flower! have patience bro. check out the roots in a week and a half!

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Hey heres a post i placed in another thread giving step by step instructions on germing and transplanting with a few pictures.

Thought it would be more helpfull here.
 

apasunee

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Question???? The hydro shop is out of those little rounds rocks to put in the net cups to hold the plants up,,,,, so,,,, can I use decorative rock from say a yard,, like small rock about the same size as those round ones,,, if I wash them off first,,,,,or is there something about those round rocks that I need them????:peace:....................
 

madmoney42

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sorry if it's been mentioned and I missed it but I'm planning on doing a DWC grow with rubbermaid tub bubblers, how often do you change out the nutrient solution or do you just top it off as needed??
 

crazy7605150

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Question???? The hydro shop is out of those little rounds rocks to put in the net cups to hold the plants up,,,,, so,,,, can I use decorative rock from say a yard,, like small rock about the same size as those round ones,,, if I wash them off first,,,,,or is there something about those round rocks that I need them????:peace:....................
yes im pretty sure u can use the decorative rocks.... but if ur talking about those smooth shiny rocks or somthing similar then they arnt ganna hold any water.. the clay pellets or silica stone or other such rocks retain water and air... the rocks ur talking about wont hold water at all....


sorry if it's been mentioned and I missed it but I'm planning on doing a DWC grow with rubbermaid tub bubblers, how often do you change out the nutrient solution or do you just top it off as needed??
well some people change it out every 2 weeks or so but some people never change out nutes... they just add water to the correct water level and then add ur nutes according to ur ppm meter... that is because sometimes ur plants will drink lots of just water and leave nute build up ... yet other times ur plant will be eating up a lot of the nutes and ur water will be weak nutes.....

if you dont have a meter then the best thing to do is to change out ur nutes every 2 weeks so u know about what the nute level is... if u dont have a meter then u wont know if ur plant is eating nutes or drinking water so its best to change out ur nutes every 2 weeks so u know about what the nute level is... just to be safe....

hope that helped both of you...
 

leggoeggo

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Question???? The hydro shop is out of those little rounds rocks to put in the net cups to hold the plants up,,,,, so,,,, can I use decorative rock from say a yard,, like small rock about the same size as those round ones,,, if I wash them off first,,,,,or is there something about those round rocks that I need them????:peace:....................
I read that lava rock is the best substitute
 

onthedl0008

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Yea sunee if i was u personaly i would wait for the hydroton sir or order some online. I wouldnt put anything from outside indoors in my controlled environment. U can wash ur rock and still not get certain molds,critter eggs, not to mention minerals that can build up and be harmfull to ur plants in dwc. So i would say definetely not outside in the yard sources.
However,like leggo said i hear lava rock is the next best thing. I have seen planting rocks around at home depot and other places but i would still be cautious of using even those especially for mineral build up if not anything else.
Then there is always perilite (lava ash) also sold at home depot that i have seen alot, its very hard to place this in dwc tho because it floats and is small and usually ends up in the water thru the pots and gets stuck in roots and pumps and such.
Hope that helps bro.
Thanks leggo and crazy.
Yes rubbermaid tubs were made for dwc for sure. Im going to get back to this thread with step by step instructions and pictures with my new=est project for sog in a 18 gallon rubbermaid tub. 2-30 gallon air pumps, mini submersible pump for water movement and 4 -6 inch airstones.Coming soon promise.
 

Swisha House

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Just a few questions, if I may, about DWC bubble bucket growing in particular:

1 - I understand how a bubble bucket supplies "water" to an established root system, but how do you start those roots out in a bubble bucket setup? The only thing I can think of is a drip line from the reservoir until the roots are established.

2 - Is there a guide for the "water" level for different stages of plant growth?

3 - A lot of the time I see people intermingling the absolute necessary supplies with things that are not in fact necessary. For instance I have done many soil grows and have never measured the pH of my water, only aged it. So my question is do I really need to measure the pH, or can I like wise age my water?

4 - How often do you need to change the "water"?

5 - What bare minimum nutes I need?

Thanks in advance for any help, and excuse any n00bnish. I am a moderator on another forum and I know how to research, but these few questions I am having a hard time finding solid answers on. Thanks again.
 

onthedl0008

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SWISHA HOUSE! Been waiting on some new swisha actually! Ever since they had.... the internet going nutz haha!

Sir there are so many answers and variables with answers to the questions u asked.So im going to try and keep it simple cuz it really is.
Yes they say to keep ur ph level at proper levels so on and so forth and i agree.However, I can say i have a ph meter and havent used it in quite some time. Matter of fact, i dont even remember where i put it.
By 1) following a strict ground rule, FOLLOWING instructions on my nut bottles, changing my water( I use tap), Nuts(fresh nuts every time)and on time ( every 10 days.., but 2 weeks is acceptible) I have been able to keep my nutrients and ph levels on point.Make that the first step in ur manual.

2) Alot of people use drip all the way thru with dwc. I can say I have never done this but alot of people swear by it and have good results i guess. But ive achieved the same thing by simply strictly Following my second ground rule:
By placing my water level One half inch and keeping it 1/2 inch below my pots at all times. The bubbles in my bucket come up, pop and splash plenty enuff nutrients and water into my hydroton sufficient enuff for the plants stage of life of building root structure. This is the part where alot of people screw up and stunt growth in seedlings and clones. DO NOT DROWN THE PLANTS. Exactly what ur trying to get away from when messing with soil.
I do not put any nuts into my bucket until the roots start hitting the top of the water. Usually within 3-5 days.However, In some strains that take longer to germ, i do pour a cup of water or so into my hydroton to help stimulate root growth.

3rd ground rule.If you look on this same page i explained exactly how i start my seedlings in jiffy plugs and how i place them in the pots with a small buffer of hydroton between the plug (or rooted clone)and water level.To help inforce root growth!

Lol So yea, If you follow the 3 simple rules. U can actually get a bucket, Throw some water in it, an air stone and pump. And simply follow the instructions on ur nut bottles, change ur water and nuts on time, u can do this with simplicity and without alot of head ache! I think thats what ur looking for. Always fresh water and nuts bro.

Hope that helps
 

leggoeggo

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SWISHA HOUSE! Been waiting on some new swisha actually! Ever since they had.... the internet going nutz haha!

Sir there are so many answers and variables with answers to the questions u asked.So im going to try and keep it simple cuz it really is.
Yes they say to keep ur ph level at proper levels so on and so forth and i agree.However, I can say i have a ph meter and havent used it in quite some time. Matter of fact, i dont even remember where i put it.
By 1) following a strict ground rule, FOLLOWING instructions on my nut bottles, changing my water( I use tap), Nuts(fresh nuts every time)and on time ( every 10 days.., but 2 weeks is acceptible) I have been able to keep my nutrients and ph levels on point.Make that the first step in ur manual.

2) Alot of people use drip all the way thru with dwc. I can say I have never done this but alot of people swear by it and have good results i guess. But ive achieved the same thing by simply strictly Following my second ground rule:
By placing my water level One half inch and keeping it 1/2 inch below my pots at all times. The bubbles in my bucket come up, pop and splash plenty enuff nutrients and water into my hydroton sufficient enuff for the plants stage of life of building root structure. This is the part where alot of people screw up and stunt growth in seedlings and clones. DO NOT DROWN THE PLANTS. Exactly what ur trying to get away from when messing with soil.
I do not put any nuts into my bucket until the roots start hitting the top of the water. Usually within 3-5 days.However, In some strains that take longer to germ, i do pour a cup of water or so into my hydroton to help stimulate root growth.

3rd ground rule.If you look on this same page i explained exactly how i start my seedlings in jiffy plugs and how i place them in the pots with a small buffer of hydroton between the plug (or rooted clone)and water level.To help inforce root growth!

Lol So yea, If you follow the 3 simple rules. U can actually get a bucket, Throw some water in it, an air stone and pump. And simply follow the instructions on ur nut bottles, change ur water and nuts on time, u can do this with simplicity and without alot of head ache! I think thats what ur looking for. Always fresh water and nuts bro.

Hope that helps
...pothead.
 

apasunee

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Thanx everyone for puttin up with my assanine ideas,, Its just when I want to do something its always FULL STEAM AHEAD, yet there is alway a reason that stops me from my goal,,,, Looks like Ill wait for the hydroton rocks or whatever the F they are called,, Ill post some pix when I get this thing figured out and lookin good........:peace:............bongsmilie............:eyesmoke:........
 

onthedl0008

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Alright said i would do this a long time ago!

Just got done thouroughly cleaning and re cleaning my very first 18 g tubbler that was taken out of commision for awhile to be used in my upcoming perpetual sog project.

Consists of:
18 gallon rubbermaid tub
2 -30 gallon air pumps and 2- 6 inch stones ( going to split into 4- 6 inch stones later )
1- small submersilbe water pump ( 1-To keep nuts of the bottom of the tub and 2- For future water changes in which i will hook up a 20 foot 1/2 inch tube bought at local aquaria store, to run directly to the drain for basicly fast effortless draining of the res)
6- 5 inch net pots ( Will be placing 2 clones per pot cut directly from vegging mothers until root structure is built, then placing directly into flower mode) This info was passed onto me from bugs and sparks at there sog growers wanted thread)
Hydroton
Bonaicaire pro organic hydro veg and flower nuts
Also Kool bloom will be used for agressive flowering ( around week 2 of flower until harvest ) to fatten up nuggies and hopefully mature them faster.

Anyhow here goes:
Clean hydroton thouroughly.
Im doing clones placed directly into the net with a 1 inch buffer of hydroton on the bottom of pot placing clones in and gently filling the rest of the way with hydroton.
I would strongly suggest to use jiffy peat spongue plugs in dwc will also post pix of these. U can follow the same steps germing ur seeds and placing plants in the pots as well. For seedlings leave the plug under ur light source until u get roots poppin out of the side then place in pot or when placing in hydroton dont bury it in the pot but leave flush with the top of hydroton and give 15 ml of water a day to help promote tap root growth. Both ways are surefire as long as you do it exactly this way.Jiffy peat spongues are ideal cuz u dont have to worry about PH'ing ur water, just soak them in tap, squeeze out a lil and drop ur tap root down ( it will seat itself in the plug ) then into the pot. Its really as simple as that!
Fill tub 1 inch below the bottom of pot. If you are using seedlings and plugs leave the water level at the bottom of pot until u get roots in the water then back off to an inch below.
Ive made many mistakes along the way but i guarantee if u read and reread these steps and follow thouroughly u will have success in dwc!

Also please note u do not have to use a tub. This can be done in a 2, 3 ,5 gallon, Ive even done this in a 1 gallon kool aid jug during emergencies lol.

Hope this helps people. Sorry its taken me so long.
 

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onthedl0008

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Thanks bori bro..... Dude i asked ur opinion on a strain in my pink grow thread. Lol u were right the bananas are most likely to be some type of poison cross strain (sativa ) lol. Was told they were poison but the source was very well u know.....
 

onthedl0008

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+ reps misery. Make sure u stick to a strict water change every 2 weeks and follow the feeding instructions on ur nut bottles if u dont have a ppm meter. Keep ur lights as close as possible but looks like ur going to end up with a nice plant.....any idea of sex? Strain?
 

SAmisery

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+ reps misery. Make sure u stick to a strict water change every 2 weeks and follow the feeding instructions on ur nut bottles if u dont have a ppm meter. Keep ur lights as close as possible but looks like ur going to end up with a nice plant.....any idea of sex? Strain?
no signs of sex, and i have no clue what the strain of the plant besides its a indica. I just ordered a dwc setup, im gona put six aurora indica seeds in there and hope to god for a beautiful harvest haha. I like this thread too. Not that many people grow dwc style lol
 

onthedl0008

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DWC is so simple bro long as u keep a strict water change schedule and follow diligently all the advice these pros have passed down! Maybe u should sex that thing and see whats up its not to early...It would suck if ya spent any more time vegging a male lol. Another week would help with yields tho if it turned out to be a female...... keep us posted on ur future indeavors!
 
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