300$ light??

Cboat38

Cboat38

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Datcoldboi said:
Ive also been looking at these lights too. Idk if they are better than the SF lights though. SF uses Samsung diodes, Mars Hydro uses Epistar. I also considered buying a BESTVA 2000W DC Series, but not if theres something better for poetentially a cheaper price or close to it.
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These all grow weed
 
jimihendrix1

jimihendrix1

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To do a 2.5 x 5 right, you need 512.5w of the best LED diodes/Samsung/Osram.

I simply go by Gavitas guideline.

Their 1700e = 40.3w sq/ft, and is made to replace a 1000w HID in a 4 x 4 area.

HID needs 62.5w sq/ft

2.5 x 5=12.5 x 41w = 512.5w
 
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Bookush34

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Johnny Lawrence said:
Terrible analogy. As of 2020, Kia ranks 3rd in reliability out of 32 vehicle manufacturers.

Old Ford pickups don't get good gas mileage.
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Care to share a list. I did a quick google search. Found lots of Toyota,Lexus,Honda,chevy on lists.
It’s subjective. Google “best Led grow light”. You will find a bunch of crap Chinese lights that you have bashed on this forum.

Ford PU hard on fuel gets the job done. Exactly like HID
 
Johnny Lawrence

Johnny Lawrence

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Bookush34 said:
Care to share a list. I did a quick google search. Found lots of Toyota,Lexus,Honda,chevy on lists.
It’s subjective. Google “best Led grow light”. You will find a bunch of crap Chinese lights that you have bashed on this forum.

Ford PU hard on fuel gets the job done. Exactly like HID
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Yup, and it guzzles gas to the same job done as it's modern, more reliable equivalent. Just like HID.

Kia's reliability has gone drastically up since their earlier offerings, and yeah, now they rank near the top in terms of reliability. And I'm saying this as an owner of a Honda and a Ford.
 
Johnny Lawrence

Johnny Lawrence

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A quick look at JD Powers 2020 list ranks them above Honda, Acura, and Nissan. But yeah, Toyota, Lexus, and Ford all rank higher.

But.more importantly, how tf is Buick ranked 3rd???
 
Johnny Lawrence

Johnny Lawrence

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Bookush34 said:
I worked at dealerships as a mechanic for 15 years. Trust me when I say those titles of “best” are bought and paid for and mean dick shit about real world use.
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I was a used car recon manager for 10. You're preaching to the choir. As a mechanic, you should know that Kias have improved dramatically in the past decade. From the designers they've hired to the ridiculous amount of money they've put into upping their game.
 
ҖҗlegilizeitҗҖ

ҖҗlegilizeitҗҖ

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Bookush34 said:
It’s not that hard. A cheap cool tube and a inline fan. Still get you under 300$

HID is like a Ford pickup. It just works.
Cheap led is like buying a Kia with full load leather and a sun roof. But scratching your head as to why is won’t handle well and last like a Honda.

don’t get me wrong I’m all for LED. Both my tents are rigged with Cobs.
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Well I certainly wouldn't compare the Spiderfarmer to a kia lol
Hid is more like a Ford model T
And the spiderfarmer is a 1500 pickup lol

For example, for me, my Spiderfarmer is replacing my $200 1000w HID light that cost me $850 a year to run with all the needed extra ventilation. Plus atleast $100 a year in bulbs that need to be replaced.
My $570 SF4000 replaces that, using only
$370 a year
Thats pretty easy math, thats $580 in savings, in one year, more than it costs to buy my LED, brand new, all over again for free
 
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ҖҗlegilizeitҗҖ

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jimihendrix1 said:
To do a 2.5 x 5 right, you need 512.5w of the best LED diodes/Samsung/Osram.

I simply go by Gavitas guideline.

Their 1700e = 40.3w sq/ft, and is made to replace a 1000w HID in a 4 x 4 area.

HID needs 62.5w sq/ft

2.5 x 5=12.5 x 41w = 512.5w
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Are you absolutely nuts? He does not need 512.5w of LED for that tiny closet! He doesn't even have CO2!
I am running almost that exact w/ft in my 4x4 (650w), but I have everything dialed in, including CO2 and RDWC.
I'm getting an average of probably 1200 ppfd spread (1800 at the center) probably 500-700 more than plants can handle with out co2 enrichment
That much light would be a waste of electricity for a closet grower
 
jimihendrix1

jimihendrix1

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If he plans to use the light to cover 12.5 Sq/Ft he needs 512w. 781w of HID. 12.5 2.5 x 5 is same as 3.5 x 3.5

A 1000w HID is good for only 4 x 4. 16 sq/ft. Hes got 12.5 sq/ft. And to equal HID in the same area. Simple math.
 
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ҖҗlegilizeitҗҖ

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jimihendrix1 said:
If he plans to use the light to cover 12.5 Sq/Ft he needs 512w. 781w of HID. 12.5 2.5 x 5 is same as 3.5 x 3.5

A 1000w HID is good for only 4 x 4. 16 sq/ft. Hes got 12.5 sq/ft. And to equal HID in the same area. Simple math.
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I think you are severely under estimating LEDS
That amount of light is only needed if you want to maximize CO2
Without an enriched environment, its much closer to 30 w/sq ft when you have high end LEDs to maximize your space
 
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