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Mogro

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Hell with it. I’m hopping in the truck for a road trip. Anybody know where I can score a real cut of gg4. or some other fire strains in Colorado.
 
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Aheadatime

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Auntie Janes Nursery said:
Coming off bad??? For clarifying the facts??
Lets just go over this one more time.
1. We are not a sister company or related to mamafunk in any other way than friends in an industry.
2. You assume you acquired HPLvD from Mamafunk's gear. You never tested her gear. You did test yours and that came back positive so you say.
3. Weak stems that bend in flower because of heavy top nugs are not a sign of HPLvD. Weak stems that grow witch broom like and break when bent do.

Just want to make sure that your doom and gloom theories are clarified a little here. Can't have people going around spreading assumptions as facts.
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1. That's great. I responded to that already when I said;

When mamafunk was going offline and keeping everything in-state, we were in touch via email and she recommended you personally, saying you had all of (or at least a number of) her cuts. And your names and pricing are very similar. I didn't mean to imply that you were legally the same entity, but that you were close, ie, know each other well enough to share cuts.
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The point in me making the connection was not to do anything other than bring attention to the Fact that your genetics are (or at least were) shared, and thus, issues like Hplvd could be shared as well.

2. "So you say"? That's why I said you're coming off bad. I'm being polite and honest, trying to help the community, and you come in here with more emotional output than is needed, with a passive aggressive tone. How dare you question my honesty. What reason would I possibly have to lie? I don't sell clones. I don't even live in your state. I'll attach the little pdf attachment I received from Dark Heart's email back then. I saved it. I'll also attach pictures of my seed runs previous to coming into contact with MamaFunks genetics, which are patently and obviously not infected by the viroid.

3. I know this very well, due to getting the viroid from MamaFunk. The branches grew abnormally laterally, broke off the trunk with ease, had smaller leaves than usual, and slower growth.

I never claimed your genetics are tainted and that buyers should avoid you. I highlighted your connection to tainted genetics, and advised buyers to test their genes. Notice the tone and the nuance. I'm here to help the community, not needlessly bash a vendor. Good luck with your business.
 

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Auntie Janes Nursery

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Aheadatime said:
1. That's great. I responded to that already when I said;



The point in me making the connection was not to do anything other than bring attention to the Fact that your genetics are (or at least were) shared, and thus, issues like Hplvd could be shared as well.

2. "So you say"? That's why I said you're coming off bad. I'm being polite and honest, trying to help the community, and you come in here with more emotional output than is needed, with a passive aggressive tone. How dare you question my honesty. What reason would I possibly have to lie? I don't sell clones. I don't even live in your state. I'll attach the little pdf attachment I received from Dark Heart's email back then. I saved it. I'll also attach pictures of my seed runs previous to coming into contact with MamaFunks genetics, which are patently and obviously not infected by the viroid.

3. I know this very well, due to getting the viroid from MamaFunk. The branches grew abnormally laterally, broke off the trunk with ease, had smaller leaves than usual, and slower growth.

I never claimed your genetics are tainted and that buyers should avoid you. I highlighted your connection to tainted genetics, and advised buyers to test their genes. Notice the tone and the nuance. I'm here to help the community, not needlessly bash a vendor. Good luck with your business.
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Once again, I just wanted to clarify those three points. You can get rid of the words "so you say" and still all I am doing is clarifying that you are basing all this off assumptions. When in reality thousands of other people go to that woman with hat in hand for the same cuts you claim are diseased. Seems a little silly if you ask me.
 
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Aheadatime

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Auntie Janes Nursery said:
Once again, I just wanted to clarify those three points. You can get rid of the words "so you say" and still all I am doing is clarifying that you are basing all this off assumptions. When in reality thousands of other people go to that woman with hat in hand for the same cuts you claim are diseased. Seems a little silly if you ask me.
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Using the word 'assumption' is misleading. It's inferences. Reasonable inferences that don't have any contrary pieces of evidence. She was the only vendor I dealt with, so it couldn't have been anyone else. Previous runs were seed, and those plants had no symptoms. The incident happened directly after coming into contact with Mama's genes. Knowing all of this, one makes an inference based on the evidence. Assumptions tend to be more baseless, or more speculative in nature. I don't think it seems silly, I think it seems obvious.

Regarding the thousands others, that's great news then, and I mean that honestly. It would suck for people to pay money for duds. My incident with her was well over a year ago, and maybe by now she (and you) test mother blocks routinely and have sussed out any issues. I hope the members of this forum remain observant regarding Hplvd, and test their incoming clones for it, especially from vendors with reported issues.
 
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Aheadatime said:
Using the word 'assumption' is misleading. It's inferences. Reasonable inferences that don't have any contrary pieces of evidence. She was the only vendor I dealt with, so it couldn't have been anyone else. Previous runs were seed, and those plants had no symptoms. The incident happened directly after coming into contact with Mama's genes. Knowing all of this, one makes an inference based on the evidence. Assumptions tend to be more baseless, or more speculative in nature. I don't think it seems silly, I think it seems obvious.

Regarding the thousands others, that's great news then, and I mean that honestly. It would suck for people to pay money for duds. My incident with her was well over a year ago, and maybe by now she (and you) test mother blocks routinely and have sussed out any issues. I hope the members of this forum remain observant regarding Hplvd, and test their incoming clones for it, especially from vendors with reported issues.
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Unless you tested mamafunks gear you again are assuming it was from her. You can not like the word all you want but it is the truth.
 
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Aheadatime

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Auntie Janes Nursery said:
Unless you tested mamafunks gear you again are assuming it was from her. You can not like the word all you want but it is the truth.
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You're being biased to the point of avoiding reason. Hplvd doesn't just pop up. It gets transferred. Her lanky plants were the vector. But it's fine that you have the perspective you have. You're obviously defending MamaFunks' and your own reputation, and if that takes you the point of being unreasonable, then we're done. Like I said, good luck with the business.
 
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Aheadatime said:
You're being biased to the point of avoiding reason. Hplvd doesn't just pop up. It gets transferred. Her lanky plants were the vector. But it's fine that you have the perspective you have. You're obviously defending MamaFunks' and your own reputation, and if that takes you the point of being unreasonable, then we're done. Like I said, good luck with the business.
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I deal based off of factual evidence and statistics. One out of thousands seems like an outlier to me. Sorry but that is just my reasoning here. If you had a test that is one thing. But you are comparing your observation with that of 1000s of other professional growers.
 
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ChronicWonders. said:
Test your Blue Zkittlez cut.
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I honestly think our blue zkittlez cut was one of the ones tested. Not 100% sure but it was around the same time I believe. We do not have the plant anymore because we have been moving in and out of mothers but it was actually a personal favorite of mine. Also never showed any signs of dudding and had strong vigor, above average yield, floral terps and a good high to it.
 
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Aheadatime

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Auntie Janes Nursery said:
I deal based off of factual evidence and statistics. One out of thousands seems like an outlier to me. Sorry but that is just my reasoning here. If you had a test that is one thing. But you are comparing your observation with that of 1000s of other professional growers.
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Here's another one right here in this thread. You're also being willfully ignorant to a wider perspective. Most people don't know what hplvd is, and would just think it was a 'bad cut'. And MamaFunk didn't seem knowledgable about it in this thread when she claimed that it's just "prone to issues". The reality could be that you don't notice (or didn't notice at the time I dealt with MamaF) that you have this issue, and at least some of the people you pass this to don't recognize what it is, and commonly blame themselves or their environment. The fact is I had a healthy mother block that became noticably unhealthy and was subsequently tested positive for Hplvd after coming into contact with MamaF's genetics. I don't know anything about how often this happens, but I'm certain it's not just happened to me.

Red Eyed said:
Not sure if I posted this yet.....anyways, Wedding Cake (jbeezy cut ) from Mama Funk.
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Auntie Janes Nursery

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Aheadatime said:
Here's another one right here in this thread. You're also being willfully ignorant to a wider perspective. Most people don't know what hplvd is, and would just think it was a 'bad cut'. And MamaFunk didn't seem knowledgable about it in this thread when she claimed that it's just "prone to issues". The reality could be that you don't notice (or didn't notice at the time I dealt with MamaF) that you have this issue, and at least some of the people you pass this to don't recognize what it is, and commonly blame themselves or their environment. The fact is I had a healthy mother block that became noticably unhealthy and was subsequently tested positive for Hplvd after coming into contact with MamaF's genetics. I don't know anything about how often this happens, but I'm certain it's not just happened to me.
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What looks dudded about that plant again???
 
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Aheadatime

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Auntie Janes Nursery said:
What looks dudded about that plant again???
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Wedding Cake is much, much more frosty than that. Hplvd effects the amount of frost on a large percentage of the varietals it infects. Not all, but most. The very next response to that post was;


oswizzle said:
That WC looks like its kind of Dudded .. ICC should be iced out with tons of frost
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Auntie Janes Nursery

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Aheadatime said:
Wedding Cake is much, much more frosty than that. Hplvd effects the amount of frost on a large percentage of the varietals it infects. Not all, but most. The very next response to that post was;
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One, you are differing between grower and environment. Two, and this point most people don't realize. There are many cuts of wedding cake around. It is no longer just the jbeezy cut. Madscientist cut was seedhunted by him for his breeding projects. So was the PCG cut. Those ones are much frostier cuts than the original JBeezy. Other variable like I said could be lights, nutrients, etc.... There look like no lack in vigor, nothing about a lack in terps and if you asked him I bet they would say the high was just right. Again, assumptions from you.....
 
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