hanimmal
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lol entire classes in college based on his presidency too.
January 6th, 2021
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topcat
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Volumes of them. There's just too much material to cover in one book. Covering the traitorous prezydint's term will create jobs.
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DIY-HP-LED
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I'll wait for the one called "Doing the Donald", though ya don't need to read much of the history you lived and witnessed, as in this case.
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injinji
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They say it takes 25 years to see what history is going to say about current events. I'm 60, so they had better hurry it up in this case, or I may never know what happened.
DIY-HP-LED
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Velshi: Not Every Argument Has Two Sides | MSNBC
There are some issues that just don’t have two sides. What led to the second impeachment of the former President is one of those things. Exactly two weeks before we inaugurated a duly elected president, a violent mob ransacked Congress. A mob that was motivated by a President who had spent four years attacking facts and truth, ending with two months of election lies and hysteria. You will hear a lot about how this impeachment is dividing the country but, in the end, no matter your political persuasion – we all know what happened on January 6th.
There are some issues that just don’t have two sides. What led to the second impeachment of the former President is one of those things. Exactly two weeks before we inaugurated a duly elected president, a violent mob ransacked Congress. A mob that was motivated by a President who had spent four years attacking facts and truth, ending with two months of election lies and hysteria. You will hear a lot about how this impeachment is dividing the country but, in the end, no matter your political persuasion – we all know what happened on January 6th.
Jimdamick
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Good/tragic story
Son Tipped Off F.B.I. About His Father, Who Is Charged in Capitol Riot - The New York Times (nytimes.com)
I sent him $5
He earned/deserves it
Son Tipped Off F.B.I. About His Father, Who Is Charged in Capitol Riot - The New York Times (nytimes.com)
I sent him $5
He earned/deserves it
topcat
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Good on you. From "Born in Chicago", "Son, you had better get a gun."Good/tragic story
Son Tipped Off F.B.I. About His Father, Who Is Charged in Capitol Riot - The New York Times (nytimes.com)
I sent him $5
He earned/deserves it
TacoMac
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They were writing books on Nixon by the late 80's.
DIY-HP-LED
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Let's talk about who should preside over Trump's impeachment....
DIY-HP-LED
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People are turning in family members, ex-romantic partners they recognize in Capitol riot footage (nbcnews.com)
People are turning in family members, ex-romantic partners they recognize in Capitol riot footage
Children, siblings and spouses were horrified watching the insurrection — especially when they spotted people they knew in the crowd.
As millions of Americans watched scenes of pro-Trump mobs attacking the U.S. Capitol earlier this month, some viewers saw something familiar on their TV screens — their own family and friends.
The FBI has been leaning on spouses, siblings, children and former romantic partners who spotted their loved ones assaulting the Capitol and responded by dropping a dime on them.
"There are plenty people, I don’t think it was so hard to report someone (even family)," said Michele Galietta, a psychology professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York City.
"Does that mean you enjoy it? No. I think it’s regrettable and I think most people would be upset they had to do it, but felt it was absolutely the right thing to do.”
Retired U.S. Air Force Lt. Col. Larry Brock was arrested after his former wife of 18 years contacted the FBI National Threat Operations Center on Jan. 8 saying she recognized him in footage.
"I just know that when I saw this was happening I was afraid he would be there," she told an FBI agent, according to an affidavit supporting charges against Brock. "I think you already know he was there. It is such a good picture of him and I recognize his patch."
Not long after the riot, insurrectionists knew they could be in trouble, with their largely unmasked faces in clear view, especially to family members and friends thousands of miles away.
Accused rioter Guy Reffitt, an apparent member of a Texas militia group, even threatened his adult children if they "crossed the line and reported" dad to authorities, according a criminal complaint.
Reffitt allegedly said he would "do what he had to do" to his own family members in such an event, prompting the young man to ask: "Are you threatening us?"
"Reffitt responded with words to the effect of, 'Don't put words in my mouth,' " FBI Special Agent Thomas Ryan wrote in the criminal complaint against Reffitt. "(The son) understood Reffitt's statements to be a threat to son's life."
Little did Reffitt know, as he allegedly made that threat, son Jackson Reffitt had apparently already made that call.
"I got in contact with the FBI after the Capitol riots about my dad," the younger Reffitt told KDFW.
The son claimed his dad had become radicalized in recent years, and calling authorities, Jackson Reffitt said, was his last best chance to help him.
"It was my moral compass, kind of, to do what I thought would protect not only my family, but my dad himself," Jackson Reffitt said. "And it wasn't just because I think my dad is aggressive, I think what he's been manipulated into thinking is aggressive."
The son's plea for help struck a familiar chord with former FBI profiler Clint Van Zandt, who knows firsthand how family members are often left with no choice but to call authorities to help loved ones.
"The Capitol was obviously bad. But if they're posting pictures, if they're taking bows for committing acts like this, then they're capable of doing much worse,” said Van Zandt, whose work helped convince the brother of Ted Kaczynski to turn in his terrorist kin.
"(Family members are thinking) 'I've reached the limits of trying to help this person, I am so concerned about their behavior that if they won't do anything to help themselves, then I have an obligation to try to find ways to help them (and call authorities).' "
And even when loved ones are not directly helping law enforcement, some are pushing for convictions in the court of public opinion.
People are turning in family members, ex-romantic partners they recognize in Capitol riot footage
Children, siblings and spouses were horrified watching the insurrection — especially when they spotted people they knew in the crowd.
As millions of Americans watched scenes of pro-Trump mobs attacking the U.S. Capitol earlier this month, some viewers saw something familiar on their TV screens — their own family and friends.
The FBI has been leaning on spouses, siblings, children and former romantic partners who spotted their loved ones assaulting the Capitol and responded by dropping a dime on them.
"There are plenty people, I don’t think it was so hard to report someone (even family)," said Michele Galietta, a psychology professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York City.
"Does that mean you enjoy it? No. I think it’s regrettable and I think most people would be upset they had to do it, but felt it was absolutely the right thing to do.”
Retired U.S. Air Force Lt. Col. Larry Brock was arrested after his former wife of 18 years contacted the FBI National Threat Operations Center on Jan. 8 saying she recognized him in footage.
"I just know that when I saw this was happening I was afraid he would be there," she told an FBI agent, according to an affidavit supporting charges against Brock. "I think you already know he was there. It is such a good picture of him and I recognize his patch."
Not long after the riot, insurrectionists knew they could be in trouble, with their largely unmasked faces in clear view, especially to family members and friends thousands of miles away.
Accused rioter Guy Reffitt, an apparent member of a Texas militia group, even threatened his adult children if they "crossed the line and reported" dad to authorities, according a criminal complaint.
Reffitt allegedly said he would "do what he had to do" to his own family members in such an event, prompting the young man to ask: "Are you threatening us?"
"Reffitt responded with words to the effect of, 'Don't put words in my mouth,' " FBI Special Agent Thomas Ryan wrote in the criminal complaint against Reffitt. "(The son) understood Reffitt's statements to be a threat to son's life."
Little did Reffitt know, as he allegedly made that threat, son Jackson Reffitt had apparently already made that call.
"I got in contact with the FBI after the Capitol riots about my dad," the younger Reffitt told KDFW.
The son claimed his dad had become radicalized in recent years, and calling authorities, Jackson Reffitt said, was his last best chance to help him.
"It was my moral compass, kind of, to do what I thought would protect not only my family, but my dad himself," Jackson Reffitt said. "And it wasn't just because I think my dad is aggressive, I think what he's been manipulated into thinking is aggressive."
The son's plea for help struck a familiar chord with former FBI profiler Clint Van Zandt, who knows firsthand how family members are often left with no choice but to call authorities to help loved ones.
"The Capitol was obviously bad. But if they're posting pictures, if they're taking bows for committing acts like this, then they're capable of doing much worse,” said Van Zandt, whose work helped convince the brother of Ted Kaczynski to turn in his terrorist kin.
"(Family members are thinking) 'I've reached the limits of trying to help this person, I am so concerned about their behavior that if they won't do anything to help themselves, then I have an obligation to try to find ways to help them (and call authorities).' "
And even when loved ones are not directly helping law enforcement, some are pushing for convictions in the court of public opinion.
DIY-HP-LED
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Yep Sammy is stomping cockroaches and dancing a jig. Over 400 investigations opened and many more to come, some might even plead guilty by the time Donald's impeachment trial begins. He will be charged criminally with inciting insurrection, the same thing he is being tried for in the senate, and convicted by a court of law. If the senate acquits Donald and the republicans refuse to convict him, the democrats should impeach him again, after his criminal conviction, there is no double jeopardy with impeachment.
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"Unprecedented" in FBI history: What we know about the Capitol riot arrests - CBS News
"Unprecedented" in FBI history: What we know about the Capitol riot arrests
America watched as hordes of rioters broke into the U.S. Capitol on January 6 — crushing through windows, pressing up stairways, and sending both lawmakers and law enforcement running for their lives. The flood of protestors who streamed into the Capitol that day left federal prosecutors with an equally immense task: finding and charging those responsible.
Earlier this month, Acting U.S. Attorney Michael Sherwin said, "The scope and scale of this investigation in these cases are really unprecedented, not only in FBI history but probably DOJ history."
So far, federal prosecutors have charged at least 158 people for their alleged roles in the riot and opened over 400 investigations into possible criminals.
As law enforcement continues to round up alleged attackers, here's what CBS News has learned about the people who were arrested:
How many have been charged?
As of Tuesday, authorities had charged at least 158 people in federal court.
Where did they come from?
The rioters come from at least 37 states outside of Washington, D.C. Among those arrested whose home states were known, the most were from Texas and Florida, with 15 Texans and 12 Floridians charged. Other well-represented states included New York, with 10 arrested, and New Jersey, with 9 arrested. California, Pennsylvania and Virginia had 7 arrests each.
How many have served in the military?
CBS News has confirmed at least seven alleged rioters who are veterans and two who currently serve in the U.S. military.
How many have worked in law enforcement?
At least four people worked as law enforcement officers at the time they allegedly took part in the riot, and all have since left their jobs. Houston police officer Tam Dinh Pham and Monmouth County correctional police officer Marissa Suarez both resigned after they were arrested, and two Virginia police officers were fired after prosecutors charged them for their alleged conduct at the Capitol.
How many have extremist affiliations?
Authorities have connected at least 19 alleged rioters to extremist groups, including the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, Three Percenters, Texas Freedom Force and the conspiracy group QAnon.
How many were women?
While the January 6 mob was largely male, at least 18 women have been arrested for their alleged participation.
How old were those arrested?
Among the 32 defendants whose ages are known, the average age was 40. The youngest known alleged rioter is 20-year-old Emanuel Jackson, a Maryland man who prosecutors say hit police officers with a bat. The oldest was 65-year-old Thomas Caldwell, a suspected member of the anti-government militia group Oath Keepers.
Common charges
A large portion of the alleged rioters have been charged with minor crimes such as misdemeanor trespassing, but prosecutors plan to add charges for more serious felonies as evidence becomes available. Sherwin said that "almost all" of the cases federal prosecutors have charged involved "significant federal felonies" with potential sentences ranging from five to 20 years.
Federal prosecutors charged at least 74 people with "violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds," a crime that carries a possible sentence of no more than six months in prison, or up to five years if paired with a weapons violation.
At least 15 people were arrested for allegedly assaulting an officer, a crime with penalties ranging from one to 20 years, depending on the circumstances of the assault. Prosecutors said Tuesday that once they have time to review body camera footage, they expect to charge more people with crimes related to assaulting police.
At least six people were charged with felony theft of public property, including Aaron Mostofsky, who was photographed with a U.S. Capitol police riot shield and bulletproof vest and faces up to 10 years in prison if convicted.
How many were released?
At least 39 people have been sent home after posting bail or agreeing to supervised release.
How much evidence exists?
Federal law enforcement has issued more than 500 grand jury subpoenas and search warrants, and the FBI has fielded more than 200,000 digital media tips from people hoping to share evidence of the riot.
Recent updates on notable cases
A federal judge Sunday blocked the release of alleged rioter Eric Munchel, dubbed "the zip tie guy" on social media after a photo appeared to show him with plastic handcuffs and tactical gear.
PayPal Thursday closed the account of Jenna Ryan, a Texas-based real-estate agent who was charged for her alleged role in the riot and later tried to use the platform to fundraise for her legal defense.
more
What happens next?
Sherwin said Tuesday that the swift rate of arrests will soon begin to plateau as prosecutors move away from charging the easily identifiable "internet stars" who appeared in photos and on social media and begin to build more complicated conspiracy cases related to militia groups' coordination during the attack.
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"Unprecedented" in FBI history: What we know about the Capitol riot arrests - CBS News
"Unprecedented" in FBI history: What we know about the Capitol riot arrests
America watched as hordes of rioters broke into the U.S. Capitol on January 6 — crushing through windows, pressing up stairways, and sending both lawmakers and law enforcement running for their lives. The flood of protestors who streamed into the Capitol that day left federal prosecutors with an equally immense task: finding and charging those responsible.
Earlier this month, Acting U.S. Attorney Michael Sherwin said, "The scope and scale of this investigation in these cases are really unprecedented, not only in FBI history but probably DOJ history."
So far, federal prosecutors have charged at least 158 people for their alleged roles in the riot and opened over 400 investigations into possible criminals.
As law enforcement continues to round up alleged attackers, here's what CBS News has learned about the people who were arrested:
How many have been charged?
As of Tuesday, authorities had charged at least 158 people in federal court.
Where did they come from?
The rioters come from at least 37 states outside of Washington, D.C. Among those arrested whose home states were known, the most were from Texas and Florida, with 15 Texans and 12 Floridians charged. Other well-represented states included New York, with 10 arrested, and New Jersey, with 9 arrested. California, Pennsylvania and Virginia had 7 arrests each.
How many have served in the military?
CBS News has confirmed at least seven alleged rioters who are veterans and two who currently serve in the U.S. military.
How many have worked in law enforcement?
At least four people worked as law enforcement officers at the time they allegedly took part in the riot, and all have since left their jobs. Houston police officer Tam Dinh Pham and Monmouth County correctional police officer Marissa Suarez both resigned after they were arrested, and two Virginia police officers were fired after prosecutors charged them for their alleged conduct at the Capitol.
How many have extremist affiliations?
Authorities have connected at least 19 alleged rioters to extremist groups, including the Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, Three Percenters, Texas Freedom Force and the conspiracy group QAnon.
How many were women?
While the January 6 mob was largely male, at least 18 women have been arrested for their alleged participation.
How old were those arrested?
Among the 32 defendants whose ages are known, the average age was 40. The youngest known alleged rioter is 20-year-old Emanuel Jackson, a Maryland man who prosecutors say hit police officers with a bat. The oldest was 65-year-old Thomas Caldwell, a suspected member of the anti-government militia group Oath Keepers.
Common charges
A large portion of the alleged rioters have been charged with minor crimes such as misdemeanor trespassing, but prosecutors plan to add charges for more serious felonies as evidence becomes available. Sherwin said that "almost all" of the cases federal prosecutors have charged involved "significant federal felonies" with potential sentences ranging from five to 20 years.
Federal prosecutors charged at least 74 people with "violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds," a crime that carries a possible sentence of no more than six months in prison, or up to five years if paired with a weapons violation.
At least 15 people were arrested for allegedly assaulting an officer, a crime with penalties ranging from one to 20 years, depending on the circumstances of the assault. Prosecutors said Tuesday that once they have time to review body camera footage, they expect to charge more people with crimes related to assaulting police.
At least six people were charged with felony theft of public property, including Aaron Mostofsky, who was photographed with a U.S. Capitol police riot shield and bulletproof vest and faces up to 10 years in prison if convicted.
How many were released?
At least 39 people have been sent home after posting bail or agreeing to supervised release.
How much evidence exists?
Federal law enforcement has issued more than 500 grand jury subpoenas and search warrants, and the FBI has fielded more than 200,000 digital media tips from people hoping to share evidence of the riot.
Recent updates on notable cases
A federal judge Sunday blocked the release of alleged rioter Eric Munchel, dubbed "the zip tie guy" on social media after a photo appeared to show him with plastic handcuffs and tactical gear.
PayPal Thursday closed the account of Jenna Ryan, a Texas-based real-estate agent who was charged for her alleged role in the riot and later tried to use the platform to fundraise for her legal defense.
more
What happens next?
Sherwin said Tuesday that the swift rate of arrests will soon begin to plateau as prosecutors move away from charging the easily identifiable "internet stars" who appeared in photos and on social media and begin to build more complicated conspiracy cases related to militia groups' coordination during the attack.
DIY-HP-LED
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Indictments Tied To Capitol Siege Expected As Soon As This Week
The FBI continues to investigate the violent January 6 attack at the U.S. Capitol, and the agency's top federal prosecutor expects indictments to be handed down as soon as this week. Ari Melber joins Morning Joe to discuss.
The FBI continues to investigate the violent January 6 attack at the U.S. Capitol, and the agency's top federal prosecutor expects indictments to be handed down as soon as this week. Ari Melber joins Morning Joe to discuss.
i wonder if they have guy with the red beard yet? he seems to be everywhere there's trouble.
pretty interesting january 6th eh?
DIY-HP-LED
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By the end of the year there will be new legislation and a domestic terrorist watch list with many reserved spots for the Trumper lunatics. This is just the beginning of the end of these unpatriotic racist assholes, there will be domestic terrorist legislation and perhaps republicans expelled from the house for involvement with the riot.
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US issues terror alert over anti-government extremists (yahoo.com)
US issues terror alert over anti-government extremists
The US Department of Homeland Security declared a nationwide terrorism alert Wednesday, citing the potential threat from domestic anti-government extremists opposed to Joe Biden as president.
"Information suggests that some ideologically-motivated violent extremists with objections to the exercise of governmental authority and the presidential transition, as well as other perceived grievances fueled by false narratives, could continue to mobilize to incite or commit violence," the department said.
The National Terrorism Advisory System Bulletin said a heightened threat of attack "will persist in the weeks following the successful presidential inauguration," which took place on January 20.
"DHS does not have any information to indicate a specific, credible plot," it said.
"However, violent riots have continued in recent days and we remain concerned that individuals frustrated with the exercise of governmental authority and the presidential transition... could continue to mobilize a broad range of ideologically-motivated actors to incite or commit violence."
The alert said there had been mounting threats since last year from domestic violent extremists motivated by Covid-19 restrictions, Biden's defeat of Donald Trump in the November election, police brutality and illegal immigration.
DHS said these motivations could remain in place for the coming months and that the January 6 attack by Trump supporters on Congress could embolden extremists "to target elected officials and government facilities."
More than 150 people, including members of armed extremist groups, have been arrested since the attack, which has been branded as an insurrection.
The department urged the public to report suspicious activity and threats of violence.
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US issues terror alert over anti-government extremists (yahoo.com)
US issues terror alert over anti-government extremists
The US Department of Homeland Security declared a nationwide terrorism alert Wednesday, citing the potential threat from domestic anti-government extremists opposed to Joe Biden as president.
"Information suggests that some ideologically-motivated violent extremists with objections to the exercise of governmental authority and the presidential transition, as well as other perceived grievances fueled by false narratives, could continue to mobilize to incite or commit violence," the department said.
The National Terrorism Advisory System Bulletin said a heightened threat of attack "will persist in the weeks following the successful presidential inauguration," which took place on January 20.
"DHS does not have any information to indicate a specific, credible plot," it said.
"However, violent riots have continued in recent days and we remain concerned that individuals frustrated with the exercise of governmental authority and the presidential transition... could continue to mobilize a broad range of ideologically-motivated actors to incite or commit violence."
The alert said there had been mounting threats since last year from domestic violent extremists motivated by Covid-19 restrictions, Biden's defeat of Donald Trump in the November election, police brutality and illegal immigration.
DHS said these motivations could remain in place for the coming months and that the January 6 attack by Trump supporters on Congress could embolden extremists "to target elected officials and government facilities."
More than 150 people, including members of armed extremist groups, have been arrested since the attack, which has been branded as an insurrection.
The department urged the public to report suspicious activity and threats of violence.
Jimdamick
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DIY-HP-LED
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Proud Boys Leader Turned FBI Informant Following 2013 Arrest
NBC News’ Tom Winter reports on the growing fallout from the Capitol Hill riot including the latest information about the leader of the far-right extremist group The Proud Boys and a warning by the U.S. Department of Homeland security about a “heightened threat environment” due to threats of domestic extremism.
NBC News’ Tom Winter reports on the growing fallout from the Capitol Hill riot including the latest information about the leader of the far-right extremist group The Proud Boys and a warning by the U.S. Department of Homeland security about a “heightened threat environment” due to threats of domestic extremism.
DIY-HP-LED
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