To flush, or not to.

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Dr. Who

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Never heard anything more true to growing, and I'll say it one more time, how and when does nature provide an end of harvest flushing of nutrients?

Nature does supply a finish to plants (BUT NO FLUSH as you point out). As the temps drop. The increase uptake of available P. Speeds the plants finish.
IF, you grow out doors and not in a climate suitable for a full finish? You will have immature material that won't compare to indoor grown product that has been carefully climate controlled.

Now then. Those who HAVE that right climate - like Double JJ in Cali as an example. You do very well, if not perfect with the real sun exposure with all the natural light spectrum.

Just some intel to chew on... Our state went legal. Now every Tom, DICK and Harriette, is growing outdoors and dumping large amounts of immature product on the market. I have friends who are effected by this phenom. I'm NOT having that issue....
 

Hollatchaboy

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Nature does supply a finish to plants (BUT NO FLUSH as you point out). As the temps drop. The increase uptake of available P. Speeds the plants finish.
IF, you grow out doors and not in a climate suitable for a full finish? You will have immature material that won't compare to indoor grown product that has been carefully climate controlled.

Now then. Those who HAVE that right climate - like Double JJ in Cali as an example. You do very well, if not perfect with the real sun exposure with all the natural light spectrum.

Just some intel to chew on... Our state went legal. Now every Tom, DICK and Harriette, is growing outdoors and dumping large amounts of immature product on the market. I have friends who are effected by this phenom. I'm NOT having that issue....
Right, I get colder temps lock out P, but other than that, all available nutes the soil provides, should still be there, and the plant is still going to take P from one part and move it to where it needs it.
 

mistergrafik

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Right, I get colder temps lock out P, but other than that, all available nutes the soil provides, should still be there, and the plant is still going to take P from one part and move it to where it needs it.
Who waters the plants in nature? Some good ole hippy wandering around middle of the night going around flushing the plants to finish nicely?

what do we do indoors? Why do we even bother? To improve conditions and impose our own will upon climate.

don’t flush ur plant - I honestly don’t give a shit. It does depend on your medium - what u do... but what do I know? I’m just a hippy with a cat.
 

twentyeight.threefive

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My next adventure in life was to run a YEW farm for Bristol Myers Squib. They made Taxol from the bark of the plant - that's a breast cancer drug. At one point there was over 24 MILLION plants in one or another stage of growth under my control.
Yew tree farm? Pretty cool, had no idea the bark was used for anti-cancer drugs.

I know yew trees were historically used for multiple uses including bows, which is the only reason I even know what a yew tree is lol.
 

Cappuchino

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From what little I know, tissue analysis says weed likes a 1-1-2 ratio.
Tissue analysis shows you how mach nutrients plant have in total. It doesn't show you how plant is taking nutrients. You can have N deficiency and plant will eat it self to grow new leaves and branches, but tissue analysis wil show you that plant is fine.
 

jimihendrix1

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Tissue analysis shows you how mach nutrients plant have in total. It doesn't show you how plant is taking nutrients. You can have N deficiency and plant will eat it self to grow new leaves and branches, but tissue analysis wil show you that plant is fine.

Im still going to listen to a company thats been making PLANT SPECIFIC FERTILIZER since 1978, and Greenhouse supplies, and fertilizer in general since the 60s. Theres a reason theyve been in business for over 50 years. Tissue Analysis is exactly what you would use if you want to see what your plants are doing on a cellular level.

I also dont buy that a plant can be cannibalizing itself, and use of tissue analysis cant detect an issue. Aint logical. Show me the research.
They also know how the plant is taking in nutrients if one is controlling every aspect of the grow. They know the exact PH, Everything if one has the money, and know how.
They know a weed plant thrives by various Macro, Micros ect, at various times via the grow by using tissue analysis to see just what is going on, how much they can take, how little they can take, and good medium between the 2.

They also makes all kinds of other Plant Specific fertilizers, and know exactly whats up, and how to use the science to see what makes shit tick. Its simple enough.
Olympic athletes, and most pro athletes have monthly blood drawn so they can adjust their diets, and adjust accordingly.

And NKP, Micros ect arent the only things they test for. They take the whole plant into consideration ect. And its not really rocket science. They know all plants thrive on certain levels of NPK, Micros, sunlight, lack of sunlight. Or Air/CO2-Anerobic Bacteria. Its just tkes a bit of money, and research to determine what specific plants need. Only thing they cant control is time, and they can manipulate th plant, but not time itself.
 
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