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Ayokiwi717

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rkymtnman said:
i don't see a Ca deficiency.

what pH do you feed at?
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Ph should be around 6.1. Im getting a better ph meter to help, but it was reading at 6.1. My tap prob has calcium in it I would assume. The weird part is it doesn't really look like calcium toxicity to me. Not saying it couldn't, just online pics don't really look like that. I have problems always around the 5-6 week mark with nutes. Lets go over last grow what I learned since the last dumbass said I didn't learn anything. I watered until runoff every time now compared to last grow (feed 1 gallon and get mabe 500ml run off), I was told to get cal mag since I had calcium deficiency last time (could have been lockout but strangely enough it looked like it fixed the issue), I dont remove any leaves because two times ago I was told thats bad, getting rid of leaves will do nothing but possibly speed up a deficiency, keep leaves on until the plant makes the choice they are no longer needed. Ugh this is annoying. I still feel though my chances of getting a good yield could still be there. It worked out last time. Its not like its not uncommon to get a deficiency along the road. The most important part is new growth, you dont want it to start affecting the new growth is one of the most important parts. Next time, I may do cal mag once every other week instead of every watering giving it 3ml in a gallon.
 
Wattzzup

Wattzzup

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Ayokiwi717 said:
So back to the problem at hand. What do you guys think is the issue.
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Grower error. You clearly don’t research or listen to anything. You can’t do something to the plant and leave it alone for a few days. You need to switch to coco. It would love how much attention you have to give to the plants. You mess with the soil too much to succeed in soil. You can’t let it dry out without flushing it.
 
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Ayokiwi717

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Wattzzup said:
Grower error. You clearly don’t research or listen to anything. You can’t do something to the plant and leave it alone for a few days. You need to switch to coco. It would love how much attention you have to give to the plants. You mess with the soil to much to succeed in soil. You can’t let it dry out without flushing it.
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Soil should be in the range of 5.5-6.5 if im not mistaken. 6.5 is boarder line so don't think i really want to aim for 6.5? Were did you get your info that it needs to be exactly 6.5, idk seems like inaccurate info to me.
 
Bukvičák

Bukvičák

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Ayokiwi717 said:
If my plant is basically dead already then pretty much 90% of growers shouldn't be getting any yields period.
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It is not dead but it yields “bout a pound”. That depends on person, I would not also lose time for this but understand you and remember when I was in similar situation. Does not matter I second @Wattzzup you do not just want to listen and doing too much things together which leads to... you got lost in what is actually happening with your plant. I do not see any mark of Ca deficiency at all but it has been already said @rkymtnman. More likely Mg which could be figured out by adding some epsom salt when the leaves started fading. Or you just messed up the medium with improper treatment. Guys are basically right that in soil you should be 6,0-7,0 but I think (but can be wrong) you are not in soil. You gonna be probably in common potting mix which is not consider to being soil but its soilless! PH for optimal nutrient uptake is 5,5-6,0 and its whole consider to be hydro. Do not ask me why coz it also did not make sense for me but its like that. Difference is between the base if it is coco than you have to treat it like coco, if it is peat than you can treat it like a soil with drain to waste watering and dry cycles. Important thing is you are not chasing pH for soil. Been there done it, always lockout with dicking around pH. But as well as every other growing medium you can not overfeed otherwise always gonna have issues. Good luck!
 
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Ayokiwi717

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You guys have to realize i get a ton of comments of people telling me to do 100 different things to fix an issue. I cant possibly use every single idea you guys throw at me. I make adjustments, what can I say. I do listen, and I do apply what I learned. Another thing is not every piece of advice is good advice. For instance somebody told me to get a dehumidifier last time to fix humidity issues (cost me dearly to say the least), somebody told me to remove leaves in this thread (thats not a good solution for nute issues, your issues don't go away because you took off alot of leaves), somebody told me to flush plants with 75 gallons of water (doesn't take to many braincells to realize that seems a little to high, I flush 9 gallons through a 3 gallon pot). So hopefully that helps people understand.
 
Wattzzup

Wattzzup

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Ayokiwi717 said:
You guys have to realize i get a ton of comments of people telling me to do 100 different things to fix an issue. I cant possibly use every single idea you guys throw at me. I make adjustments, what can I say. I do listen, and I do apply what I learned. Another thing is not every piece of advice is good advice. For instance somebody told me to get a dehumidifier last time to fix humidity issues (cost me dearly to say the least), somebody told me to remove leaves in this thread (thats not a good solution for nute issues, your issues don't go away because you took off alot of leaves), somebody told me to flush plants with 75 gallons of water (doesn't take to many braincells to realize that seems a little to high, I flush 9 gallons through a 3 gallon pot). So hopefully that helps people understand.
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You’re missing everyone’s point. Stop messing with them. They don’t have time to adjust or respond to anything you do because you’re doing something else the next day. Forget leaves forget all that stuff. Try to keep it green. Focus only on that.
 
rkymtnman

rkymtnman

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my guess is a nute imbalance or too low a pH.

that soil already has nutes so when you add more, you might have too much of one or more of them. as an example, let's say there is plenty of P left in the soil but you add more. now you have too much P which might affect other nutes.

sorry i can't help more: i don't grow in dirt.

have you checked for bugs? with a scope?
 
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Ayokiwi717

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Bukvičák said:
It is not dead but it yields “bout a pound”. That depends on person, I would not also lose time for this but understand you and remember when I was in similar situation. Does not matter I second @Wattzzup you do not just want to listen and doing too much things together which leads to... you got lost in what is actually happening with your plant. I do not see any mark of Ca deficiency at all but it has been already said @rkymtnman. More likely Mg which could be figured out by adding some epsom salt when the leaves started fading. Or you just messed up the medium with improper treatment. Guys are basically right that in soil you should be 6,0-7,0 but I think (but can be wrong) you are not in soil. You gonna be probably in common potting mix which is not consider to being soil but its soilless! PH for optimal nutrient uptake is 5,5-6,0 and its whole consider to be hydro. Do not ask me why coz it also did not make sense for me but its like that. Difference is between the base if it is coco than you have to treat it like coco, if it is peat than you can treat it like a soil with drain to waste watering and dry cycles. Important thing is you are not chasing pH for soil. Been there done it, always lockout with dicking around pH. But as well as every other growing medium you can not overfeed otherwise always gonna have issues. Good luck!
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Im not expecting to get a pound. Im only using 3 gallon pots and there autoflowers. So mabe looking at 4oz at max possibly an autoflower. Definitely a pound would be impossible im thinking about coco next time, or possibly mix coco with soil. Clearly this soil is not working well for me.
 
Wattzzup

Wattzzup

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Ayokiwi717 said:
Im not expecting to get a pound. Im only using 3 gallon pots and there autoflowers. So mabe looking at 4oz at max possibly an autoflower. Definitely a pound would be impossible im thinking about coco next time, or possibly mix coco with soil. Clearly this soil is not working well for me.
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Coco would be more for you. You can’t over water it. I wouldn’t mix soil and coco. I don’t see many people on here having success with it.
 
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Ayokiwi717

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Wattzzup said:
You’re missing everyone’s point. Stop messing with them. They don’t have time to adjust or respond to anything you do because you’re doing something else the next day. Forget leaves forget all that stuff. Try to keep it green. Focus only on that.
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Im not making huge changes. I just stopped feeding cal mag to start, raised lights, and gave them half strength of fox farm trio this watering after mabe 3-4 days of them drinking. Not much else i can do really than to just try and monitor and do what you can. I realized from previous mistakes not to go crazy. You can do some adjustments, but just becareful not to do anything crazy.
 
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Ayokiwi717

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Wattzzup said:
Coco would be more for you. You can’t over water it. I wouldn’t mix soil and coco. I don’t see many people on here having success with it.
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I will have to look into it. I heard some people on youtube swearing buy it. I tend to trust them more, because people on here sometimes give bad advice on purpose to kill your plants it seems. You know I ain't lying either. Some of you are very helpful and encouraging on here though.
 
Wattzzup

Wattzzup

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Ayokiwi717 said:
I will have to look into it. I heard some people on youtube swearing buy it. I tend to trust them more, because people on here sometimes give bad advice on purpose to kill your plants it seems. You know I ain't lying either.
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Honestly I don’t see how you can blame anyone here. You don’t listen when people tell you not to flush. The next day it’s a new thread “flushed again what’s wrong with my plant?”
 
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