New grow Dr. Earth

[Hash Hound]

I've been using DrEarth as main nute for 11 years. I mix it right in the soil and feed teas made from either or both and olny topdress if needed, which is rarely.
The Tomato and Veg and the Bud and Bloom is all you need. I've used the All Purpose Life pellets too, a little goes a long way.
Keep it simple, and good luck with your grow Grow311,

 

[Richard Drysift]

@Wattzzup let me know what you think is too much.

Week 1: Day 1- Thoroughly blend Dr. Earth® Organic 2™ starter fertilizer into the top 4 inches of soil in the containers, at the rate of ¼ cup per each 5-gallon container. Water it in with a solution of Dr.Earth® Seaweed Concentrate. (See instructions above.)

Week 2: Mix Dr. Earth® Liquid Solution™ at a rate of 4 tablespoons per gallon of water. Apply 2 ½ cups of solution per 5-gallon plant.

Week 3: Mix ¼ cup of Dr Earth® Organic 2™ Starter Fertilizer into the top 2 inches of soil in each 5-gallon container. Scratch in completely, but be careful not to disturb the established root system. Water thoroughly.

Week 4: Mix 4 tablespoons of Dr. Earth® Liquid solution® and 2 tablespoons of Dr. Earth® Seaweed Concentrate into 1 gallon of water. Apply 2 ½ cups of solution per plant. After feeding, water lightly with pure water, to drive the nutrients down into the soil.

Week 5: Mix Dr. Earth® Organic 5™ Vegetable Fertilizer at a rate of ¼ cup per five-gallon container mixed thoroughly into the top 2 inches of soil trying not to disturb the established root system. Water thoroughly.

Week 6: Mix both Dr. Earth® Liquid Solution® and Dr. Earth® Seaweed Concentrate. Mix 4 tablespoons of Liquid Solution and 2 tablespoons of Seaweed Concentrate in 1 gallon of water. Apply 2 ½ cups of solution per plant. After you feed, water lightly with pure water to drive the nutrients down into the soil.

Week 7: Thoroughly mix Dr. Earth® Organic 5™ Vegetable Fertilizer into the top 2 inches of soil, at a rate of ¼ cup per 5-gallon container, trying not to disturb the established root system. Water thoroughly.

Week 8: Mix 4 tablespoons of Dr. Earth® Liquid solution® and 3 tablespoons of Dr. Earth® Seaweed Concentrate into 1 gallon of water. Apply 2 ½ cups of solution per plant. After feeding, water lightly with pure water, to drive the nutrients down into the soil.

Week 9: Thoroughly mix Dr. Earth® Organic 8™ Bud & Bloom Booster into the top 2 inches of soil, at a rate of ¼ cup per 5-gallon container, trying not to disturb the established root system. Water thoroughly.

Flush till harvest after that.

Sounds good but complex. You could get the same results by putting all this into the mix before there are plants growing in it. Then you just water them. Don’t skimp on the worm castings....ewc is what drives your soil and is by far the single most important ingredient in any living soil mix. Also consider brewing compost teas a few times per grow cycle in addition to soluble seaweed. NO flushing just water as normal.

 

[Wattzzup]

I've been using DrEarth as main nute for 11 years. I mix it right in the soil and feed teas made from either or both and olny topdress if needed, which is rarely.
The Tomato and Veg and the Bud and Bloom is all you need. I've used the All Purpose Life pellets too, a little goes a long way.
Keep it simple, and good luck with your grow Grow311,

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Here’s your answer OP about what to use.

 

[Grow311]

@Hash Hound I have so many questions, let's be friends

What about your water? Do you use RO, what soil? Add earth worm castings? Is the schedule from the owner from the first message in this thread pretty accurate in terms of when to introduce the different fertilizers and pls tell me more about your tea. I know, so many questions lol

Little ones just sprouted, I was planning on transplanting them Into 1 gallons of fox farm happy Frog and the dr earth starter fertilizer in about a week, probably add some earthworm castings too. Then, 3 weeks after that into 5 gallons.

 

[Grow311]

If you only have time for 1 question, pls let me know about your water.

 

[Hash Hound]

my go to soils are Black Gold Organic or Promix Organic. I add about a gallon worm castings per/cuft. A little perlite if it's around but not always.
I use 7g fabric bags but I'm always experimenting with different pots etc.

I've used many different combinations of the DrE. Their directions are to use 1 cup per 5g and I've always gone on the lighter side of recommendations so I use that amount for the 7g. I've used both Tomato/Veg or Bud/Bloom alone and sometimes 3/4 of one and 1/4 of the other, usually depends on whats on hand. I've done layering with the Bud/Bloom in the bottom half and the Tomato/Veg in the top half with good results.
That's my base, but I might toss in something different here and there like minerals or azomite if I'm not to stoned and forget.

Then it's a nice frothy tea every two or three weeks. Again, I go way light compared to some tea directions. In a one gallon jug I mix half gallon of water I've already been aerating, just enough molasses to get it flowing out the jar then stop it. (real precise huh) a tbsp of a mycos type product, 2 tbs Bud/Bloom, if for veg or early flower maybe a 1/4c worm castings. Aerate for a day or two till it has a nice frothy head on it. I top off the gallon and use full strength or dilute more if I need it for more plants.

My water is around the 7.8-8.5 range and I only have problems when I get adventurous and try adjusting the ph, nothing but problems. I leave it alone and just let it set a few days to allow what ever chemicals escape.

 

[Grow311]

So judging by your last sentence, it sounds like you are using tap water? I'm thinking about getting an RO to filter my city tap water.

Also when you make your tea, do you put stuff in a cheesecloth or sock or just straight into the water?

 

[Hash Hound]

yes tap water.
i strain the tea through a screen especially if I'm using a sprinkling can, or I pour all the stuff right on top and get a light topdress too.
When I was helping another guy I made it in a 7g bucket and used old nylons and suspended it to hang in the middle of the bucket.

 

[Grow311]

Just transplanted my seedlings from cups into 1 gallons using
Fox farm happy Frog as base
30% worm castings
20% perlite
Topdress with dr earth starter fertilizer and watered with fresh RO water with just a bit of Neptunes seaweed fertilizer. Lets get growing babies!!
They are only like 10 days old from when they came out the ground. Germination took 48 hours.

 

[curious618]

I let them veg in happy Frog for 3 weeks without feeding, all good. Fed a tsp grow big and some leaves started turning color. Transplanted into fresh ocean forest soil, didnt feed for 3 weeks, all good. Switched lights, started feeding big Bloom and tiger bloom on week 1, then, week 2, lots of leaves turn yellow. Buds are developing nicely but yellowing and leaves getting brown spots occurs early in flower.

We’re you following the FF schedule? If so, what week did you start at? I planted in Happy Frog as well. When it was time to feed I started at Week 4 on the schedule.

 

[Grow311]

This is my 4th round and I will only use foxfarm soil this time. My plants didnt respond well to the nutes last time, so I'm switching over to Dr. Earth schedule. There is a link to it in the first post of this thread

As far as the foxfarm nutes, I didnt feed the first 3 weeks, then added some Grow big. One of the plants started showing that she wasnt happy almost immediately. It was then time to transplant into 5 gallons, so I figured the fresh ocean forest would be enough until I switch. They were happy. Once I switched, i started feeding. I started with just a little bit. That was like week 5 on the schedule I think, but I used less cause I didn't want to overfeed. That's when leaves started changing color quickly. It's possible that the issue was more related to ph than the nutes though cause I used too much ph down I think.
They'll still turn out nicely it looks like but I want to keep the leaves healthy next time, so no bottle nutes and no ph down this time.

 

[farmingfisherman]

I used to love the impact Dr Earth had on plant growth. But with a recent test result of our buds showing Arsenic levels way to high - we found they use a fish bone meal with high arsenic levels. We tossed the harvest - it was POISON.

So can you show us the actually test results from the lab where you had your crop tested? I would hope a company that is OMSI certified would be more careful in where they source their ingredients from. Also how do you know the fish bone meal was the source of the arsenic? Did you have the Dr. Earth tested as well and can you provide the lab results?

 

[TimBar]

look it up

CDFA Fertilizer Product Database

 

[TimBar]

We need to look at everything including double checking the lab that tested. This was an absurd amount of Arsenic and we used less than half what their Cannabis schedule recommended.

Not fair for us to jump at the fertilizer

 

[TimBar]

After reviewing the grow logs - I suspect that it was possibly bark mulch that was mixed into the soil for that crop. We will be testing that bulk mulch at U Penn for $24.

 

[TimBar]

it was actually an OK amount by the State Regulations - they allow for 200 ppb or .2 ppm. any organic fertilizer from the sea has a lot of arsenic in it. Dolomite lime, fishbone meal, kelp all can contribute to arsenic in your buds.

 

[Lenin1917]

Just started my first soil grow with Dr earth tomato & vegetable fertilizer and their kelp meal in mg organic potting soil. I'll be following along. Bit different than hydro but so far not to bad.

 

[drewusmaximus]

I’m having the same problem. Buds are forming but leaves are getting burned at the edges, some brown spots, yellowing and dying but bud formation looks good. I used fox farm, molasses and water for 4 weeks since fox farm has built in nutrients. Then I started using Dr. Earth 3-9-4 for flowering. Just Dr. Earth, water and molasses. Water at 6.4ish PH. I even flushed the plants to make sure salts were gone. Not sure what’s going on. I even used banana water for potassium and magnesium.

 

[drewusmaximus]

I saw this guy take stick matches and left them in water for a while until the sulfur dissolved. Then fed his plants with it. Apparently the matches have magnesium and potassium. Can someone confirm? Thanks!

 

[troyboyington]

I've been using DrEarth as main nute for 11 years. I mix it right in the soil and feed teas made from either or both and olny topdress if needed, which is rarely.
The Tomato and Veg and the Bud and Bloom is all you need. I've used the All Purpose Life pellets too, a little goes a long way.
Keep it simple, and good luck with your grow Grow311,

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Any chance you can give us a more specific feeding schedule of what you do?