Good luck separating truth from fiction while still believing in weed heroes. Yes, old seeds can definitely be popped if stored properly, etc. Doesn't mean P94 was. Anyway, I'll leave you to it. One question though, how exactly do "we all know" anything about anyone's character without actually dealing with them? There are a lot respected people who genuinely suck. I don't know Duke, so I don't mean to imply anything about him because I don't know shit about him that isn't based off second and third-hand information. But I do know what I know about some others or I wouldn't say it. There are plenty of people in the cannabis industry as a whole, and the seed business in particular, who are "famous" and have been pushed in High Times magazines and shit like that that aren't even real growers. Just marketers. There are a lot of "legends" who made their way up the ladder by screwing people over. I've personally been fucked over by some of them along the way. There are also wonderful people who aren't in the spotlight at all and are only really known to a few people but have made unimaginable contributions to the evolution of this plant without ever needing or wanting attention for it. Anyway, I'd honestly take C99 from every single one of those other breeders I mentioned than from Bros. Grimm at this point. There's a reason Duke doesn't work with Soul anymore and there are reasons why many banks won't carry his stuff. You're welcome to dig for all that background info if you feel like it. I'm not going to speak on it anymore. My whole point of even posting on this thread was to correct the misinformation about Frost Brothers supposedly running Brothers Grimm at some point, which definitely never happened, though he did make some really nice C99 f4 seeds from two different phenos once upon a time.