Official Gaia Green Grow Method

KootenayDIY

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WHat calmag is good to use with Gaia green ? And I will be in ffof Will I need calmag ?
If you use garden lime in your mix 1/3 cup to 5g of soil you shouldn’t need to add anything. I did however need a top up with one strain after 2 months and used a top dress of calcium rich mineral composite. But that was a one off strain
 

Herb potman

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If you use garden lime in your mix 1/3 cup to 5g of soil you shouldn’t need to add anything. I did however need a top up with one strain after 2 months and used a top dress of calcium rich mineral composite. But that was a one off strain
And when u say garden lime do u mean dolomite lime ?
 

KootenayDIY

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Any tips for a rookie grower like myself ?
I like to keep it simple and it works. This is what I use

5g Simple Mix
Promix BX with mycho
5tbsp of dolomite lime (garden lime)
20 tbsp of Gaia 4-4-4
If I’m planting seeds into this I’ll dig out a Dixie cup sized hole and fill that with un- ammended soil so the seedling isn’t in with any mix. Allowing the roots to grow into it as the plant matures.
Plant any rooted plants or clones directly into this mix.
I will also feed compost tea’s every other week to keep up the bacteria and micro organisms.

This amount should feed a plant for 3-4 weeks depending on plant size. Then top dress with the 4-4-4 or 2-8-4 depending on life cycle in the amount of 1/2 cup. If your transitioning you could split the two and use 1/4 cup of the 4-4-4 and 2-8-4 at the same feeding.

Hope that helps
 
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Go go n chill

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So if I using a hot mix already like ffof soil I herd to wait for about 3 weeks for nutes in soil to deplete then top dress Gaia green ferts
So if I using a hot mix already like ffof soil I herd to wait for about 3 weeks for nutes in soil to deplete then top dress Gaia green ferts
In FFOF I can go as long as 6 weeks in veg with adding only langbenite or Dolomite lime. I top dress using an assortment of dry amendments as needed. Some quick release some slow release. I’ve never used the Gaia products but I’m sure they work well. Let’s get real I doubt these companies are sourcing and mixing their own amendments. I use EWC often
 

Go go n chill

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7 weeks veg and now on 7 weeks flower. Gaia green and 360 watts led.
4 plants 5 gallon grow bags

These plants are 5 ft tall!
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Man those are really nice. I’ve only had 5ft plants once! I keep trying to air out my soil so I can get better growth, BUT I get nice yields still. I’m gonna try to let them grow with just a couple toppings this go around. Bravo you are rocking Organics
 

lakesidegrower

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great thread - running with organic, water only living soil using gaia amendments for my next run - ordered pretty much everything gaia sells lol
I'm following a lot of what Cann has posted in the ROLS thread that is stickied in this forum - so much good information there. Basically it will be 2 1/2 cups of amendments per cu-ft, plus rock dusts.

@myke - you want to go with 4-5 cups of rock dust per cu-ft - insect frass is a great amendment, lots of good stuff there, but one of the best things it brings to the table is chitin which will help you plants become more disease resistant - crab meal also contains lots of chitin, so insect frass gives you that benefit but without the Ca, which you can add in other ways. I've been feeding frass to my worms so will incorporate it into my soil that way.

I plan to veg photos mostly in 1 gals then put em in 7 gals of living soil amended for flowering a couple weeks before flipping. Both soils will a tweaked Cann mix, more gaia bloom in the flowering pots, more all purp for veg, cooked for 6-8 weeks. Will also be incorporating KNF recipes during the grow - LABS, FPJ, FFJ, FAA. Fascinating stuff, again, a really good reason to read through the ROLS thread, also any posts from @hyroot, lints in the Organic No-Till stickied thread as well.

Here's my working recipe:

Soil - 6 cu ft

1/3 peat 15 gal (57L)
1/3 perlite. 15 gal
1/3 ewc/humus. 15 gal

Biochar - (charged w/ EWC, kelp and FAA) 6 cups

Eggshell meal (fed to worms)

Amendments
15 cups total (2.5 cups/cu-ft total)

3 cup all purp
2 cup bloom
4 cup kelp
1 cup alfalfa
3 cup frass
1 cup gaia guano
1 cup fish bone

Minerals
4 cup / cu ft - need 24 cups total

9 cups Galacial rd
8 cups Rock dust blend
4 cups Rock phosphate
3 cups gypsum

NPK of above Gaia amendments:
Fish bone meal 6-12-0
Mnrlzd Phosphate (guano) 0-9-0
Alfalfa meal - 3-0-2
Insect frass 3-1-2
Kelp meal 1-0-3
All purp 4-4-4
Bloom. 2-8-4
 

Herb potman

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7 weeks veg and now on 7 weeks flower. Gaia green and 360 watts led.
4 plants 5 gallon grow bags

These plants are 5 ft tall!
View attachment 4826065View attachment 4826066
great thread - running with organic, water only living soil using gaia amendments for my next run - ordered pretty much everything gaia sells lol
I'm following a lot of what Cann has posted in the ROLS thread that is stickied in this forum - so much good information there. Basically it will be 2 1/2 cups of amendments per cu-ft, plus rock dusts.

@myke - you want to go with 4-5 cups of rock dust per cu-ft - insect frass is a great amendment, lots of good stuff there, but one of the best things it brings to the table is chitin which will help you plants become more disease resistant - crab meal also contains lots of chitin, so insect frass gives you that benefit but without the Ca, which you can add in other ways. I've been feeding frass to my worms so will incorporate it into my soil that way.

I plan to veg photos mostly in 1 gals then put em in 7 gals of living soil amended for flowering a couple weeks before flipping. Both soils will a tweaked Cann mix, more gaia bloom in the flowering pots, more all purp for veg, cooked for 6-8 weeks. Will also be incorporating KNF recipes during the grow - LABS, FPJ, FFJ, FAA. Fascinating stuff, again, a really good reason to read through the ROLS thread, also any posts from @hyroot, lints in the Organic No-Till stickied thread as well.

Here's my working recipe:

Soil - 6 cu ft

1/3 peat 15 gal (57L)
1/3 perlite. 15 gal
1/3 ewc/humus. 15 gal

Biochar - (charged w/ EWC, kelp and FAA) 6 cups

Eggshell meal (fed to worms)

Amendments
15 cups total (2.5 cups/cu-ft total)

3 cup all purp
2 cup bloom
4 cup kelp
1 cup alfalfa
3 cup frass
1 cup gaia guano
1 cup fish bone

Minerals
4 cup / cu ft - need 24 cups total

9 cups Galacial rd
8 cups Rock dust blend
4 cups Rock phosphate
3 cups gypsum

NPK of above Gaia amendments:
Fish bone meal 6-12-0
Mnrlzd Phosphate (guano) 0-9-0
Alfalfa meal - 3-0-2
Insect frass 3-1-2
Kelp meal 1-0-3
All purp 4-4-4
Bloom. 2-8-4
looks awesome. I will have to keep this recipe for future. Any advice on some ffj ? Recipe ?
 

myke

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That frass stuff will sure stink up the place after its watered in.Good thing the smell goes away after a day.
I think the key to all this is up potting a week before flip and big jumps like
@lakesidegrower says 1-7gallon.
Also mix the dry with ewc first then spread out and water in.
My veg room is getting out of hand and will have to up pot into 10 or 15 gallon as they'vefeb 10 027.JPG almost out grown the 5's

,
 

lakesidegrower

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looks awesome. I will have to keep this recipe for future. Any advice on some ffj ? Recipe ?
KNF has been blowing my mind lately - my background is a major in biochem and microbiology and I can say that the science behind KNF is solid as fuck. True KNF shouldn't need any amendments at all other than what you find in the nature around you, but as long as you don't try to mix KNF methods with chemicals there's no reason why they couldn't complement organic amendments, adding KNF to your growing practices just lets you use less store-bought amendments over time.
FFJ is fermented fruit juice - great for flower. FPJ is fermented plant juice which can be made to suit either veg, transition or bloom phase depending on what you use as the input. Google it to read up, or watch anything made my Chris Trump on the topic on YouTube.
Essentially though, you are taking usually one single species of plant and using the parts of the plant with vigorous growth, like tips, shoots, buds, flowers, and mixing with equal part brown sugar by weight, placing in a sealed container in the dark and allowing it for ferment for a couple of weeks - strain to get the liquid only and you have a fantastic food for your plant that contains all kinds of good stuff. You want to select plants that are in the same stage of growth that the plants you will be feeding will be in (ie. young shoots for seedlings, vigorous growth tips and leaves for veg, buds waiting to explode are perfect for the week before flower for example.) Basically you are extracting the hormones, enzymes, etc from the plant you are using for your FPJ and introducing them to your own plants exactly when they need it.
 
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