None of my clones rooted! WTF! Any advice?

getogrow

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Cutting them off of flowering plants gives you less chance for success. It works and most folks have good luck with it. Something is wrong in there....
Whats the foam ?
I got one of these a few months ago and just stick cuttings in there. No ph, no food, no rooting hormones. Just plain dirty ass tap water. The first cuttings did great , after a couple weeks , i needed to refresh the water....after a month , mold started building up on the lower stems.....tossed it back in the closet and use peat pellets like always.
The first and second batch of babies rooted within 10 days ish. no problems. 4 or 5 weeks into it , i had changed 50% of the water once or twice and they just wouldnt root anymore. Problem was because i didnt clean and change the water enough. Other then that , they grew theirselves.
 

bk78

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Cutting them off of flowering plants gives you less chance for success. It works and most folks have good luck with it. Something is wrong in there....
Whats the foam ?
I got one of these a few months ago and just stick cuttings in there. No ph, no food, no rooting hormones. Just plain dirty ass tap water. The first cuttings did great , after a couple weeks , i needed to refresh the water....after a month , mold started building up on the lower stems.....tossed it back in the closet and use peat pellets like always.
The first and second batch of babies rooted within 10 days ish. no problems. 4 or 5 weeks into it , i had changed 50% of the water once or twice and they just wouldnt root anymore. Problem was because i didnt clean and change the water enough. Other then that , they grew theirselves.
Yup good old dome and tray I’ve always resorted back to. My 2 aero cloner sit in my basement collecting dust.
 

getogrow

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Yup good old dome and tray I’ve always resorted back to. My 2 aero cloner sit in my basement collecting dust.
yup , same here. I have much more control over the ol domes. My success rate is crazy good with the occasional lazieness factoring into overall success rate. So we'll just say around 90% on a bad week.
 

Lordhooha

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I have ezcloners. I cut shit my plant, dip them in cyclone, water at 5.7 to 5.9, 300 ppm of nutrients and generally have roots starting pretty well in 4 days. Water temp is like 68 degrees
 

123drp

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Lower your water temperature to low 60s. Rooting works best at this water temperature. Try that first and just leave them alone for a week. Make sure you take cuttings and cut fan leaves off the stem with a sharp sanitized blade. You can speed up the process with cloning gel I believe but it's not necessary to get roots started.
 

Madmike79

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For misting I add small amount of seaweed extracts to my water sprayer as it is good for healthy roots and foliage, normally would mist with seaweed extracts every 3 spray as to not over do it.
 

123drp

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Also your cuttings are huge. Take smaller cuttings. Clones root easier if they are smaller. Especially during flower when stems harden up. When I take clones during flower I take the smallest, most flexible, and greenest cuts with 2-3 nodes at the bottom that I would cut off to lollipop anyway.
 

Lordhooha

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Also your cuttings are huge. Take smaller cuttings. Clones root easier if they are smaller. Especially during flower when stems harden up. When I take clones during flower I take the smallest, most flexible, and greenest cuts with 2-3 nodes at the bottom that I would cut off to lollipop anyway.
Why mine are 3x's bigger than those an root amazing.
 

Homegrown Hero

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It’s all about the initial cut imo. Cut on an angle, create a lot of surface area along the cut. Immediately into a bowl of water. Pre-soak peat pellets, put them in a small humidity dome. Once you’ve made all your cuts, cover the wounds in rooting gel, and add a drop of gel to each pellet. Get the clones into the dome and cover immediately. 18/6 lighting. single 42w CFL daylight bulb about a foot away. Spray inside dome and on clones for a couple days, and begin to leave the lid off in longer and longer increments. After a few days, only spray the dome. After about a week you can probably leave the dome off all together, making sure the pellets remain moist. They always root following these instructions
 
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Madmike79

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Also your cuttings are huge. Take smaller cuttings. Clones root easier if they are smaller. Especially during flower when stems harden up. When I take clones during flower I take the smallest, most flexible, and greenest cuts with 2-3 nodes at the bottom that I would cut off to lollipop anyway.
Bit of a newbie question what's difference between taking cuttings from vegging plant to taking it from one that is flowering only ever taken them from veg but have seen lots that take it from flowering plant is there any difference and does it take longer to go back to veg.
 

123drp

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Why mine are 3x's bigger than those an root amazing.
I'm sure they do, I was giving advice some troubleshooting tips to get the OPs cuts to root. Taking smaller cuts works a lot better for me and others I know. If you can get your to root, by all means keep on doing it your way!
 

123drp

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Bit of a newbie question what's difference between taking cuttings from vegging plant to taking it from one that is flowering only ever taken them from veg but have seen lots that take it from flowering plant is there any difference and does it take longer to go back to veg.
It takes about a month to revegg a cut taken from flower in my experience. Maybe others have revegged faster?
 

Star Dog

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Bought a cloner. Followed directions. Nada. They looked like good cuttings. Took a few from a flowering plant too. Nada. Gawd I suck at this! How do you guys do it?
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They don't look healthy, it appears that something is actively stopping them rooting, maybe light.

These were cut 3 days ago and put under 4x T5s, I'm using tap water only no ph, ime temps anywhere between 20/25c and I'm confident they'll root.
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A few of the suckers I cut from the flowering plants, they're just left now no misting or foliar feed etc.

I hope you get to the bottom of it, it must be frustrating.
 

TrippleDip

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Problem was because i didnt clean and change the water enough. Other then that , they grew theirselves.
Dont quote me at all but i think having the little bit of food in there helps speed things up.
water at 5.7 to 5.9, 300 ppm of nutrients
Came here to post these but ppl are on the ball already. A small bit of nutes definitely helps, also changing the water if it's over 1 week old, but usually I just plant them roots or no after 10ish days, they can root in soil if they have developed a callus already. Also I swear clones root faster if humidity is normal - 60%ish, not 80-100%ish. I don't cover mine anymore, just mist periodically by hand.

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Plant on the right is *way* overdeveloped for how much callus there should be, clones were taken at the same time and I am just waiting to see if roots will ever form in water for this plant (no need to go searching for water if uptake is adequate?). A plant will survive in soil if it has even a mm or two of callus.
 

bigunyun

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Also your cuttings are huge. Take smaller cuttings. Clones root easier if they are smaller. Especially during flower when stems harden up. When I take clones during flower I take the smallest, most flexible, and greenest cuts with 2-3 nodes at the bottom that I would cut off to lollipop anyway.
great, thanks!
 

Star Dog

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I've used a 1ltr ice cream tub with a black and white lid, it must be the least sophisticated cloner ever thrown together.
But it worked, check the state of the two lower ones, I still recovered them.
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Yes its lazy I was only looking for it to work temporarily, I hadn't built my bubble cloner at the time.
 
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