First time indoor grow

KosarZiga

KosarZiga

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Hello everyone.
First time indoor grower here.

I got a lot of info here already, but now I would have some additional questions.

Let's check my setup.
So, I have 1.2m x 1.2m (4x4) grow tent with 9 frosty gelato photoperiodic plants in 15L fabric pots.
Grow medium: soil, biobizz light mix
Light: lumatek attis 300w
Nutrients: biotabs
And an ExHale CO2 bag

I know light is more suited to 1x1m grow (3x3),but this was what my initial budget allowed. In the future i plan to ad one more tent and this one would be for veg only.

Pic below shows my plants.
Planted on 1st of January.
Quadlined as part of LST.
Switched to 12/12 light 8 days ago.
I even built an access ramp, so i could access plants in the back for additional lts, defoliaton, scrog or whatever.

I realised that 9 plants are a lot for this tent, but now it is what it is (someone suggested me 9 plants and scrog. 9 plants to have short veg time to fill the place)

So my main question here is.
How would you proceed here?
Scrog or just leave them quadlined as they are now and let them grow?
Scrog probably adds a lot of work..
I'm willing to do it, if it means bigger yeald.
When and on what height to install a net?

I noticed some uses trellis, some doesnt..
Some use two trellises.. Which to me doesn't look much different then scrog..
I'm really confused at this point and would really appreciate you advices from experiences.

Some plants are bigger than others.
Is this a problem, what can be done?


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turbobuzz

turbobuzz

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KosarZiga said:
They are feminized yeah.
Why would anyone buy regular seeds?
Except to try making new strains of course.

Do you have any suggestions how to start scrog now?
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The cost of reg seeds is way cheaper. I bought reg seeds and out of 10 seeds I had one male.
 
JimmiP

JimmiP

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I wouldn't Scrog that many plants. Darn sure not in that space. You will not be able to get under the net in the middle or the back row. Watering will be a pain. And you need space for a fan under the canopy.
Also that space is already filled, so at this point (if you added a net) it won't be a scrog, it would just be a trellised sog. Which still comes with plant maintenance issues like watering, checking for pests, removing dead leaves and keeping air circulation under the canopy. And doing that laying down on a padded plank from above will be difficult at best.
I would pull at least three, if not four, of them out of there and do something else with them. But if you still want to keep all of them to flower, in that space, don't trellis them and flip your lights now. Without the net it will be possible to move them out of the way of one another. And it will be possible to remove any of them later should you need to.
Good luck friend!
 
JoeBlow5823

JoeBlow5823

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looks like u have some lst ties on them? being that u have 9 plants i dont see a reason to scrog. that way u can still take 6 plants out, water/train the back three, put 3 back in, do the same, and do the same with the last 3. the reason to scrog is even canopy which with 9 plants u already have. and u could easily add a second 300w light to that tent
 
JoeBlow5823

JoeBlow5823

Well-Known Member
JimmiP said:
I wouldn't Scrog that many plants. Darn sure not in that space. You will not be able to get under the net in the middle or the back row. Watering will be a pain. And you need space for a fan under the canopy.
Also that space is already filled, so at this point (if you added a net) it won't be a scrog, it would just be a trellised sog. Which still comes with plant maintenance issues like watering, checking for pests, removing dead leaves and keeping air circulation under the canopy. And doing that laying down on a padded plank from above will be difficult at best.
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couldnt have said it better myself. he flipped to flower 8 days ago so i think he is good to leave all 9
 
Partyslayer1

Partyslayer1

Well-Known Member
KosarZiga said:
Hello everyone.
First time indoor grower here.

I got a lot of info here already, but now I would have some additional questions.

Let's check my setup.
So, I have 1.2m x 1.2m (4x4) grow tent with 9 frosty gelato photoperiodic plants in 15L fabric pots.
Grow medium: soil, biobizz light mix
Light: lumatek attis 300w
Nutrients: biotabs
And an ExHale CO2 bag

I know light is more suited to 1x1m grow (3x3),but this was what my initial budget allowed. In the future i plan to ad one more tent and this one would be for veg only.

Pic below shows my plants.
Planted on 1st of January.
Quadlined as part of LST.
Switched to 12/12 light 8 days ago.
I even built an access ramp, so i could access plants in the back for additional lts, defoliaton, scrog or whatever.

I realised that 9 plants are a lot for this tent, but now it is what it is (someone suggested me 9 plants and scrog. 9 plants to have short veg time to fill the place)

So my main question here is.
How would you proceed here?
Scrog or just leave them quadlined as they are now and let them grow?
Scrog probably adds a lot of work..
I'm willing to do it, if it means bigger yeald.
When and on what height to install a net?

I noticed some uses trellis, some doesnt..
Some use two trellises.. Which to me doesn't look much different then scrog..
I'm really confused at this point and would really appreciate you advices from experiences.

Some plants are bigger than others.
Is this a problem, what can be done?


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Toss the CO2 bag.
 
JimmiP

JimmiP

Well-Known Member
JoeBlow5823 said:
couldnt have said it better myself. he flipped to flower 8 days ago so i think he is good to leave all 9
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All those reasons I listed are why I quit doing scrogs. Toooooo much time bent over, under plant canopies is hard on a person. Lol. Indoors, I will stick to going up the wall! My knees and back are happier since I've gone back to vertical.
 
JimmiP

JimmiP

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In regards to the exhale bag, lol. If you want a little extra CO2, then start making beer or wine. Then, put your carboy in the tent while it's fermenting. I do this every winter. Not so much for the CO2. But because it's warm in the grow room and it helps the process of making high test beer move right along. If the plants get some benefits all the better but really I am just trying to keep my yeast happy and productive.
 
JimmiP

JimmiP

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Holy CRAPPPPPP! I just looked up the price on those bags... Definitely start making booze! It's cheaper to make six gallons of beer or cider than to buy one of those bags.
And the effects from the beer /wine /cider will be stronger both in terms of actual CO2 produced and the buz you get to enjoy!
Mmmmmmmm, CIDER AND WEED AND BEER! OH MY!
 
Partyslayer1

Partyslayer1

Well-Known Member
JimmiP said:
In regards to the exhale bag, lol. If you want a little extra CO2, then start making beer or wine. Then, put your carboy in the tent while it's fermenting. I do this every winter. Not so much for the CO2. But because it's warm in the grow room and it helps the process of making high test beer move right along. If the plants get some benefits all the better but really I am just trying to keep my yeast happy and productive.
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JimmiP said:
Holy CRAPPPPPP! I just looked up the price on those bags... Definitely start making booze! It's cheaper to make six gallons of beer or cider than to buy one of those bags.
And the effects from the beer /wine /cider will be stronger both in terms of actual CO2 produced and the buz you get to enjoy!
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Its a win-win-win or (Gin-win-win(e)
 
JoeBlow5823

JoeBlow5823

Well-Known Member
JimmiP said:
All those reasons I listed are why I quit doing scrogs. Toooooo much time bent over, under plant canopies is hard on a person. Lol. Indoors, I will stick to going up the wall! My knees and back are happier since I've gone back to vertical.
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i scrog 4 plants in a 5x5. not much reaching / bending over cuz the tent has 3 doors. first couple months i start them in plastic pots and set them on 5 gallon buckets so i dont have to bend over at all to train.

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i have a watering hose so i can sit down and water super easy.
 
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