Using chinese light, read this post now.

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Millo said:
Absolutely true, that's raw power over there
However I'm under the impression that many (new) growers are also taking in consideration the increase of the electrical bill ( although not the same prices everywhere in the world ). Sure I could buy a 600w hps. But then if after 1 year of bills I pay it the same price as a high end LED cash upfront, better choose the high end LED in the beginning and still enjoy low bills later IMO
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It's not even that much. A space heater is 1000 watts. 600 watt light at 18/6 won't make a big difference in electric bills.
 
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Southernontariogrower said:
If you have a cheap light like some unknown company say crxsunny, you will find that your plants won't do what you want them to, before throwing your money away, HLG has a light for 150 that has proper spectrum to grow, power means little compared to spectrum. If that is too expensive they have a veg light for 100 dollars. These are the smallest affordable grow lights in the market. Please heed this post, I've only been on site 3 days and have wasted so much time trying to figure out what is wrong with plant that are getting inadequate light.even mars hydro lights are ok
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Another Led vs same old thread.
 
Southernontariogrower

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I just find it really shitty that its so deceiving, noobs and non noobs alike have wasted enough of their money on lies and deception, I spent months of research getting to know the led world, I thought 1000w led was equal to of greater than hid lighting. Not so pleasantly surprised, bought 3 bad lights, first was really bad, dropped a cob a week.Viparspecs were second led purchase, better but still not adequate. Mind that now leds have come a long way. There are some very good Chinese made lights, just not cheap ones, you can pay thousands to cover a 4x4. Though prices are coming down.

If you have grown with budget light, and have found them acceptable for growing, you know what I mean. Leave a post on makes and models so others can buy good affordable lights. Crxsunny get a rating of 1/100. The 1 is for decent customer service, light detracted from this score.
 
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Southernontariogrower said:
I just find it really shitty that its so deceiving, noobs and non noobs alike have wasted enough of their money on lies and deception, I spent months of research getting to know the led world, I thought 1000w led was equal to of greater than hid lighting. Not so pleasantly surprised, bought 3 bad lights, first was really bad, dropped a cob a week.Viparspecs were second led purchase, better but still not adequate. Mind that now leds have come a long way. There are some very good Chinese made lights, just not cheap ones, you can pay thousands to cover a 4x4. Though prices are coming down.

If you have grown with budget light, and have found them acceptable for growing, you know what I mean. Leave a post on makes and models so others can buy good affordable lights. Crxsunny get a rating of 1/100. The 1 is for decent customer service, light detracted from this score.
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What is cheap to you? U can get lights from alibaba for a really nice price. Kingbrite and meiju(?) is trusted vendors.
QB 240w draw out the wall, 125 usd ish + shipping and whatever fees applies to you.

As for people helping other people if they find good products, specially if pricing is good - all for it! One of the ways I try give back.
 
Millo

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Star Dog said:
I don't know much about either hlg or mars but I'm of the understanding that they both use the same Samsung diodes and drivers?
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The new mars models do too. There are however 2 types of samsung diodes. lm301b ( new mars ) and lm301h ( hlg ), which is the newer version. Mars also sometimes uses no-brand drivers whereas HLG always had Meanwell. It's a matter of the quality of the materials those products are being assembled with. Hence the price difference. If you afford HLG go with it. But if you only wanna grow for yourself and are on a tight budget, then Mars or Spider it is.
 
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Millo said:
The new mars models do too. There are however 2 types of samsung diodes. lm301b ( new mars ) and lm301h ( hlg ), which is the newer version. Mars also sometimes uses no-brand drivers whereas HLG always had Meanwell. It's a matter of the quality of the materials those products are being assembled with. Hence the price difference. If you afford HLG go with it. But if you only wanna grow for yourself and are on a tight budget, then Mars or Spider it is.
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They might be using lm301b's, but they're not made at the same place HLG's are. The Mars ones are probably made in China, and they probably don't have the quality standards that the Vietnam ones have that HLG uses. Probably not top bin diodes either.

I'll buy American every time if I have a choice.
 
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PadawanWarrior said:
They might be using lm301b's, but they're not made at the same place HLG's are. The Mars ones are probably made in China, and they probably don't have the quality standards that the Vietnam ones have that HLG uses. Probably not top bin diodes either.

I'll buy American every time if I have a choice.
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I'm an HLG man but I have to ask, how does anyone know where anything comes from? How can anyone prove it? Just wondering about stuff after smoking some Goji :eyesmoke:
 
PadawanWarrior

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V256.420 said:
I'm an HLG man but I have to ask, how does anyone know where anything comes from? How can anyone prove it? Just wondering about stuff after smoking some Goji :eyesmoke:
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@Stephenj37826 says it all the time. He should know.

Help me choose a 4x4flowertent light

In the future it’s easier in the staff if you just report and stop throwing gas into the fire and Continue arguing for 8 pages seriously just report ignore and let us handle it Report what tho? staff shouldnt have even been bothered by anything in this thread. Theres been some back and forth...
www.rollitup.org

Just search

Search results for query: diodes | Rollitup
 
PadawanWarrior

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Renfro said:
With Chinese stuff I always wonder if the LM301b's are fake. They make so much fake shit so if the price seems unreal I start worrying about fake diodes.
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Exactly. Or just the shitty ones that HLG or decent companies don't want. I know, they fake everything, so how can I ever know if it's real, lol.

Gotta love this quote from Stephen too, lol.

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Why take a chance ? At least at HLG , you get exactly what you want PLUS they have great customer service. What you pay for is quality CONSISTENT components ... not substitutes. Board matching .... incredible after sale customer service ..... maker support .... New offerings ..... USA made ...
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