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Kp sunshine

Kp sunshine

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Bakersfield said:
Thank You
I wish there was a smell emoji, then you could all smell the level of dank on them.
This is the sort of fire that gets JJ's briefs in a bunch.
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Do the chem lines you grow mostly start off with a sweet smell which most people call gas. I know smelling the flower is quite different than squeezing it then smelling your fingers. I know most of what I’ve grown lately has that lots of sweaty sock funk too.
Why would JJ get upset?
 
Bakersfield

Bakersfield

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Kp sunshine said:
Do the chem lines you grow mostly start off with a sweet smell which most people call gas. I know smelling the flower is quite different than squeezing it then smelling your fingers. I know most of what I’ve grown lately has that lots of sweaty sock funk too.
Why would JJ get upset?
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I'd say most of the broad leaf cannabis plants have a sweet fruity candy like odor early on in flower, up to say week 5 and as the plant matures different strains start doing their thing.
I don't perceive gas in a strain as a sweet smell, but I'm sure it's very subjective
Gas and fuel to me are an almost turpentine paint thinner odor that gets all up in your nose like mentholatum.
The dirty sock component sounds like Chem Funk.
To me Chemdog is more funk and less gas than say OG Kush which is more gas and less funk, but the gas and the funk are found in both Chemdawg and OGK.
Both have varying degrees of Pine and lemon as well, but as far as I know none finish with fruity.

To answer on the JJ question.
JJ gets unhinged over people making crosses like Chem D x I-95, ECSD x Stardawg, because those were his exclusive crosses using his work.

JJ and crew has bred so many amazing crosses, I can't deny his contribution.
 
Kp sunshine

Kp sunshine

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Bakersfield said:
I'd say most of the broad leaf cannabis plants have a sweet fruity candy like odor early on in flower, up to say week 5 and as the plant matures different strains start doing their thing.
I don't perceive gas in a strain as a sweet smell, but I'm sure it's very subjective
Gas and fuel to me are an almost turpentine paint thinner odor that gets all up in your nose like mentholatum.
The dirty sock component sounds like Chem Funk.
To me Chemdog is more funk and less gas than say OG Kush which is more gas and less funk, but the gas and the funk are found in both Chemdawg and OGK.
Both have varying degrees of Pine and lemon as well, but as far as I know none finish with fruity.

To answer on the JJ question.
JJ gets unhinged over people making crosses like Chem D x I-95, ECSD x Stardawg, because those were his exclusive crosses using his work.

JJ and crew has bred so many amazing crosses, I can't deny his contribution.
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I understand what you mean on the smells now, thanks.
Yes JJ has even touched my Sunshine Daydream’s I’m running with the Tres Dawg in the Appalachia cross.
 
Bakersfield

Bakersfield

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Kp sunshine said:
I remember someone trying to tell you were too heavy with N. I’d say you you’re doing ok
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Thank you.
This was my first ebb and flow grow, I've been growing in coco for a few years and got bored.
I knew there would be a bit of a learning curve.

I actually use very small amounts of nitrogen, but high Phosphorus and I believe the margins were burned by allowing my EC to drift up to about 2.1 from 1.8, due to evaporation.
Perhaps 1.6 would be the sweet spot.

I'm trying another brand now and am already needing to scale back their recommended EC
 
thenotsoesoteric

thenotsoesoteric

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Bakersfield said:
Thank you.
This was my first ebb and flow grow, I've been growing in coco for a few years and got bored.
I knew there would be a bit of a learning curve.

I actually use very small amounts of nitrogen, but high Phosphorus and I believe the margins were burned by allowing my EC to drift up to about 2.1 from 1.8, due to evaporation.
Perhaps 1.6 would be the sweet spot.

I'm trying another brand now and am already needing to scale back their recommended EC
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Ebb n flow, especially with recirculating water, can be ran at a lower nutrient rate for sure. I never used ec so can't remember the ec level it is comparable to but I rarely found the need to go 1000 ppm, usually in 700-800 range. Even lower if I was using rock wool
 
Bakersfield

Bakersfield

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thenotsoesoteric said:
Ebb n flow, especially with recirculating water, can be ran at a lower nutrient rate for sure. I never used ec so can't remember the ec level it is comparable to but I rarely found the need to go 1000 ppm, usually in 700-800 range. Even lower if I was using rock wool
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Depending on what brand of reader you use, it's either a .5 or .7 scale to figure EC.
1000ppm = 2.0 EC for most American brands, which is too hot for my ladies.
I do flood every hour, so I think they need less than someone flooding 3 times a cycle.
 
thenotsoesoteric

thenotsoesoteric

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Bakersfield said:
Depending on what brand of reader you use, it's either a .5 or .7 scale to figure EC.
1000ppm = 2.0 EC for most American brands, which is too hot for my ladies.
I do flood every hour, so I think they need less than someone flooding 3 times a cycle.
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I gotcha. Yeah I don't go very high on nutrients anymore. Most times in coco I only go up to about 600 range and still sometimes get leaf tip burn.
 
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