Microbial mass
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Leon727272
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I have heard very good comments about this product from very experienced growers so I have purchased a bottle of it but won't start using it until my next grow. How & when are you applying it?
Jjgrow420
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Once every 2 weeks as per instructions on a water only day @Leon727272
Ive noticed way faster veg growth than normal. See what happens in flower.... Ive used diff bacteria sources before but this one seems to be a winner.
Ive noticed way faster veg growth than normal. See what happens in flower.... Ive used diff bacteria sources before but this one seems to be a winner.
Leon727272
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Are you using soil or coco or something else as a grow medium?
Jjgrow420
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Pro mix (bx)
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Leon727272
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I am in Canada also and planning on using the Stepwell super soil this year for my outdoor grow (2 plants)........... One plant using Microbial Mass & the other using EM1 (Stepwell's version of Microbial Mass). It will be interesting to see the comparison.
Jjgrow420
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Ya man keep me posted on that
I got a shit bunch of dr maryjanes for free and used that before as well as tarantula from an (also free) and I do see a big diff vs not using it but am interested to see a side by side comparison
What province you in?
Ive seen my clones double in size in 3 days using the mm so far. Everyday they are noticeably larger and praying to the cmh gods.
Now can i attribute this 100% to the mm? Not really but I FEEL as though that is the factor.
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Leon727272
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I'm in the Greater Toronto area............also one of the reasons for using Stepwell soil as their store is in the GTA also so I can just order online and pick it up at their store.
Jjgrow420
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Leon727272
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Leon727272
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ops....wrong emoji this one, lol..... 
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hotrodharley
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“Microbial Mass is a biostimulant product specially developed to maximize plant yield using five different bacterial strains. The proprietary blend of bacteria promotes a healthy root zone by solubilizing phosphorus and calcium, and assisting with the bioavailability of iron and other fertilization compounds from both organic and inorganic sources. Used to dramatically increase yield, accelerate root development, maximize fertilization efficiency, improve plant immunity, and promote good soil health with enzymes.”
That’s probably as close to identifying microbe strains as you’re going to get. Note that legal word “proprietary.” Just buy it and try it.
radiant Rudy
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"Miicrobial Mass features two bacterial strains (Bacillus megaterium and Bacillus megaterium) that have the capacity to produce phytases and organic acids to ensure solubilisation of both organic and inorganic phosphorus. This product therefore allows the plant to absorb phosphorus, an essential nutrient, for better health and growth throughout multiple stages of its development."
Between the typos, syntax errors, a "Pro" version thst costs extra and the 35$ "free sample" + 20$ shipping. Ill pass on Microbial mass.
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Jjgrow420
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Actually they are listed on the label. Ill take a pic when im done work
Jjgrow420
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I got a free bottle...so i duno where you see that but ok.
35 bucks at my grow store. Its on indoorgrowingcanada.com. there are multiple outlets to buy it. The pro version is simply more concentrated. So they dont have to ship you a bunch of water. But hate away np
xtsho
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Just another product targeted towards cannabis users. It won't make a difference but the buyer will think it works because they want it to. Placebo effect.
I just had to laugh reading this marketing nonsense.
How does MIICROBIAL MASS work?
Unlike many of the first generation of beneficial microbe products introduced into the market, MIICROBIAL MASS uses a highly targeted approach to inoculate the rhizosphere with a microbial consortium optimized to cycle nutrients in very specific ways. Utilizing the very latest scientific understanding of rhizospheric microbiology, our product development process involved the careful identification of several unique strains of bacteria which work in perfect harmony to perform some of the highly specific nutrient cycling functions required for optimal plant growth and development. The functional roles of each member of this bacterial consortium can be described as their modes of action.
Jjgrow420
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Hm ill have to disagree with you on that one.
They studied wild plants that grew on their own in different areas and colonized the specific bacteria found on the plants naturally. I dont see how its a gimmick. If you havent used bacteria and fungi in your soil I could see how you think its snakeoil. But i can assure you these are good bacteria. You can make a tea with it and it foams up like crazy so the bacteria is clearly viable
I know theres alot of users here who are totally anti weed nutes but they use products like jacks which I am totally anti jacks.
They studied wild plants that grew on their own in different areas and colonized the specific bacteria found on the plants naturally. I dont see how its a gimmick. If you havent used bacteria and fungi in your soil I could see how you think its snakeoil. But i can assure you these are good bacteria. You can make a tea with it and it foams up like crazy so the bacteria is clearly viable
I know theres alot of users here who are totally anti weed nutes but they use products like jacks which I am totally anti jacks.
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Rurumo
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Thanks Rudy, I was just curious about their strain PGPR strain picks. Bacillus Megaterium is one of the more commonly used strains in products like this. The price is too high, just like Mammoth P, another brand lacking in transparency. I do like to add mycorrhizae, trichoderma, and PGPRs to my coco throughout the grow, I think they add a lot to the finished product-the soup of secondary metabolites they produce simply cant be replaced. I feel like I can get away with using a much lower EC with mineral salt fertilizers too. But these products don't need to be expensive. Two of the products I like are Photosynthesis Plus and Soil Blast, both contain high levels of Megaterium, along with many others. If it works for you guys, great! But I promise you don't need to pay this much to get good results from a microbe product.
radiant Rudy
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Ive used about a dozen microbial and myko inoculates. I do think they work. In my experience tainio stuff is geat, mammoth works well, photosynthesis plus works well, so does recharge and soil balance pro, og bio war can also be effective to just name a few. But Microbial Mass cant even spell correctly. Their product claims sound like poorly understood regurgitation of other product's marketing material.
Take a listen to Jill Clapperton's youtube talk with John Kempf.
Building and sustaining a beneficial microbial population is more complex than simply applying an inoculant
Son, "hate" doesnt mean what they told you it does at Uncle Bull Daddy`s Home School
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