MR. NICE STRAINS AND SEEDS

conor c

conor c

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S3NS3 said:
Thank you this is my theory as well. I was hoping to be wrong. Everyone is hating on Sensi so much these days is there a technical reason they have gone down hill, or is everyone kinda falsely equivicating the right wing push against the dutch coffee shop scene with seed company failure? Or are the two actually related? Think I'm going to get it from Sensi and find out if the strain is still as good an indica for insomnia as I remember from 20 years ago
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i think i know why many find it confusing see nevil when he spoke of maple leaf alot of the time he meant the original from the seeds he got from jim ortega thats the original unless he was specifically talking about the seed line sensi sell it was a selection from those seeds so not the exact same its from the original seeds nevil also got from jim that afghan t the mother of super skunk among others comes from i think sensis is a back cross with something else vs the original batch nevil got and used to make many strains dont get me wrong theres (sensis)maple leaf indica is great but its sweet definitely not funky imo think lots of people mix up the original vs the seedbank version available to all / what nevil said on the subject
 
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conor c said:
i think i know why many find it confusing see nevil when he spoke of maple leaf alot of the time he meant the original from the seeds he got from jim ortega thats the original unless he was specifically talking about the seed line sensi sell it was a selection from those seeds so not the exact same its from the original seeds nevil also got from jim that afghan t the mother of super skunk among others comes from i think sensis is a back cross with something else vs the original batch nevil got and used to make many strains dont get me wrong theres (sensis)maple leaf indica is great but its sweet definitely not funky imo think lots of people mix up the original vs the seedbank version available to all / what nevil said on the subject
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Thank you so much!!! The clone version I got was definitely the seed bank sweet one. It had nice deep earthy funk with a smooth syrupy sweet top. It did literally taste like maple syrup while the smell of earthy skunk almost totally over powered the sweet maple but not quite. The effect was more clear headed than the super skunk we ran yet helped me sleep at night even more, but thats just my ratchet ass memory of it from way back in 98 for whatever that is worth. Thank you for the clarification
 
conor c

conor c

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S3NS3 said:
Thank you so much!!! The clone version I got was definitely the seed bank sweet one. It had nice deep earthy funk with a smooth syrupy sweet top. It did literally taste like maple syrup while the smell of earthy skunk almost totally over powered the sweet maple but not quite. The effect was more clear headed than the super skunk we ran yet helped me sleep at night even more, but thats just my ratchet ass memory of it from way back in 98 for whatever that is worth. Thank you for the clarification
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No problem friend
 
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Lucky Luke said:
Not sure if this has been posted earlier in the thread but thought id share. Its from the Mr Nice Forum

Originally Posted by shantibaba
Hi All

just to clear the air from confusion and before you all go making a legend from myth here is how it was done and is done still....

Nh is made from Haze C male which is made by two pure haze parents from 1969....then the female side of NH is made from Haze A combined to NL5 or NL5Haze A where Haze A was also made by two pure Haze parents also from 1969

Haze A is no longer alive only Haze C male is along with several other different sativa lines.

but plants with the lineage of Haze A are still alive and carrying the genes within.

SSH is made up of Haze C combined to Skunk 1 or Skunk HzC which is the male side, the female side is Haze C combined to NL5 or NL5HzC

the Mango comes from a parallel cross same as SSH but with one difference

Haze A male combined to Sk 1 or Sk HzA being the male plant, the female is NL5HzC....that is the breeding of those three plants

considering the Haze A is no longer a male alive, it still is alive in the ancestry of some of the plants used in all these breeds

I do not have secrets about breeding but given the same seed batches we could all still create something different...it boils down to selection.

La Nina is the widow father breed to a pure Haze female...neither A or C by the way so I hope that clears up all your doubts once and for all.
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You might want to go an see the updated version of this he put up about a month ago, as he's been called out on some of the bs, so nevils haze is a5 x hz c, ssh is c5(nl5hz) x skunkhaze c, mango haze is c5122(nl5hz) x skunkhaze c always been same father as ssh with both strains containing no haze a an never did, an la nina is mm hybrid x white widow ibl.
 
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TheWholeTruth said:
You might want to go an see the updated version of this he put up about a month ago, as he's been called out on some of the bs, so nevils haze is a5 x hz c, ssh is c5(nl5hz) x skunkhaze c, mango haze is c5122(nl5hz) x skunkhaze c always been same father as ssh with both strains containing no haze a an never did, an la nina is mm hybrid x white widow ibl.
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Cool, when u get a few minutes can u copy and paste his comment. Good to keep it all together.
 
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TheWholeTruth

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Hi All
Just to be clear about the breeding stories it really works like this
Nev Haze is made with Haze C male and NL5 x Haze A, while the Super Silver Haze is made from Skunk x Haze C male to NL5 xHzC and Mango Haze is made up of Skunk Haze C male and a NL5 x Hz C selection called 122.

hope that is clear....Sb


There you go mate. Its in the live q and a thread, page2 , post 31
I will find the quotes confirming la nina was made with a mullum hybrid for you too
 
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S3NS3

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So Super Silver Haze and Mango Haze are just different selection lines out of the same cross? Anyone ever try the Mango Widow cross? Thanks to all for the knowledge drop it is appreciated
 
conor c

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S3NS3 said:
So Super Silver Haze and Mango Haze are just different selection lines out of the same cross? Anyone ever try the Mango Widow cross? Thanks to all for the knowledge drop it is appreciated
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There sisters but not the same the a5 was one of the best haze selections nevil worked imo i think pure haze A is dead tho its only alive in hybrids like the A5 haze etc haze c is great just not as potent ime
 
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conor c said:
There sisters but not the same the a5 was one of the best haze selections nevil worked imo i think pure haze A is dead tho its only alive in hybrids like the A5 haze etc haze c is great just not as potent ime
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Both ssh and mango haze were originally just haze C doubled up, no a5haze. The original haze C is just as potent as haze A. The first nevils haze line released from mr nice was actually nevils haze x haze C as was test ssh and test mango haze. None of wich were around for long. If you think you have ever had the lines from mr nice in there original form how nevil made them, well you haven't. Unless shanti has specifically said he is giving you seed made by nevil otherwise they are all remakes and nothing like they were originally. Nevils work cant be replicated.
 
conor c

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TheWholeTruth said:
Both ssh and mango haze were originally just haze C doubled up, no a5haze. The original haze C is just as potent as haze A. The first nevils haze line released from mr nice was actually nevils haze x haze C as was test ssh and test mango haze. None of wich were around for long. If you think you have ever had the lines from mr nice in there original form how nevil made them, well you haven't. Unless shanti has specifically said he is giving you seed made by nevil otherwise they are all remakes and nothing like they were originally. Nevils work cant be replicated.







shanti aint the only one with nevils work he may have alot of it but it is also a big world out there for example karma has nevils original a5 cut to this day
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Speaking of Maple Syrup tastes:

Around 2006 a was copping different hazes, blueberry and bubblegum in Trenton, NJ....then I came across the BEST haze ive ever smoked......it literally tasted like Waffles covered in Maple Syrup......shit was sticky as hell and anytime I smoked it, you could smell it 3 blocks away.....the potency was higher than any weed ive ever tried.....you smoke this and you are retarded for the next 5+ hours......then the guy with it moved to florida....i went all the way down there for it and he ended up getting raided.....never saw that haze again......damn do I wish I could have that shit now
 
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TheWholeTruth

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Not the same a5. Karmas source had 5 different a5 cuttings when nevil claimed he kept two. So obviously someone has been popping seeds and now making out they have nevils selected clones. Still nevils work cant be replicated. You can make bx's s1's but it will never be the same as the original. No one can make any of the f1 haze A hybrids or the f1 haze C hybrids or even the males pure reversed on to themselves. No one can replicate the work, its why haze hasnt been the same in the last 20 years no mater were you are. Mind you the work nevil did in his last round of breeding was some of the best.
 
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TheWholeTruth said:
Not the same a5. Karmas source had 5 different a5 cuttings when nevil claimed he kept two. So obviously someone has been popping seeds and now making out they have nevils selected clones. Still nevils work cant be replicated. You can make bx's s1's but it will never be the same as the original. No one can make any of the f1 haze A hybrids or the f1 haze C hybrids or even the males pure reversed on to themselves. No one can replicate the work, its why haze hasnt been the same in the last 20 years no mater were you are. Mind you the work nevil did in his last round of breeding was some of the best.
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Your welcome to your opinion but i take karma at his word when he says its legit im inclined to agree
 
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conor c said:
Your welcome to your opinion but i take karma at his word when he says its legit im inclined to agree
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I agree. Karma is a stand up guy, but he has never said its nevils breeding a5 clone, the exact same cutting featured on the front cover of the 1990 seedbank catalogue. Which is confirmed to be the actual plant that later mothered the Neville's haze. A plant from another original a5 seed would still be the real a5 just not the exact same plant used on the cover picture, the actual Neville's haze mother clone. Tho the karmas cut thats out and about is still very rare and seems to be the only surviving a5 cutting left thats used publicly. I have heard karma say there is another a5 cutting he has access to. One that seems to be more tightly held and not given out or hasn't been sold in coffee shops in weed form. Thats more like what I would expect would have been happening with the actual backup held for nevil of his breeding clone.
 
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Looking for input on The Stones and The Cure, how they compare in terms of high, terps and flavours. Has anyone by chance grown out the two to compare? Appreciate any info and experience you might have to share on these.
 
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U79 said:
Looking for input on The Stones and The Cure, how they compare in terms of high, terps and flavours. Has anyone by chance grown out the two to compare? Appreciate any info and experience you might have to share on these.
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Would love to hear from others as well, I just recently won The Cure in an auction for cheap and was interested The Stones too.
 
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