Seed Junkie Genetics

kwigybo88

kwigybo88

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colocowboy said:
It’s not my fault you’re misrepresenting the situation! Price gouging assumes that it’s a good or service that is required that you have to buy at a high price and have no choice, like electricity!
You have alternative product choices with the same genetics even, where do you get the idea that until you get a tell people what they can charge for their goods or services? Open a book!
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I'd suggest you take your own advice and look up the definition. I didnt say anything about telling people what they can or cannot charge for their goods. I said some goods are overpriced no matter how many people choose to buy them.

Try reading what's actually written.
 
kwigybo88

kwigybo88

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Aheadatime said:
What we're being taught in schools where "us people" come from is being degraded over time. We used to be taught austrian economics, for the most part. Markets are representations of people's will, time, capacity, and desire. People want something, people supply it, the price gets negotiated through purchase power, life's good. Misinformation and "externalities"(?) are part of human nature. As the consumer, you have a responsibility to do your homework on what you buy, and place your dollars and your trust where you see fit.
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You don't know what an externality is and you want to talk about markets? Okay then.

Aheadatime said:
"Fair and reasonable" is something you believe you have some vested power to dictate. What is fair and reasonable? Well, whatever the hell people think! It's arbitrary. If you truly understand this, your next quotes wouldn't be here. Whether you realize it or not, you are displaying a thought pattern that value is somehow measurable, that you can somehow or another come to a "fair" price point for things, which isn't true. What's fair is what the consumers agree to pay. If it's too expensive, they don't pay, and thus the producer lowers costs. That's it. Nothing else is "fair". It's all arbitrary.

"Actual value" doesn't exist. It's all perceived. Markets are voluntary.

Again, the display that somehow you can dictate what things are worth. I wouldn't pay that, but many people would, and thus, it was worth it. How very arrogant of you to claim that something can't be artistically worth alot of money to somebody just because it's not to you.

This is also arrogant, because you're patronizing the customer who will pay that much, based on the reflection of your thoughts and values. If somebody wants that strain, and has tons of money laying around, and it's worth it to them, that's that. Your income is yours dude lol. Some people make 6 figures, some people make 7 figures. 5,000 is change to them. Claiming you're taking advantage of that person is to talk down to their own sense of value. Again, value is arbitrary. Americans pay more in foreign lands for street food, but we don't give a shit, because it costs us 2$ in our currency instead of 1.20$. If a native made a big fuss that I was being ripped off and called me stupid for paying the extra 80 cents, I'd just walk away, completely and totally apathetic, because 80 cents has no value to me. Because, again, value is arbitrary.
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So you think there are no objective means by which one can evaluate the quality and worth of a product? Oh dude, you cant be serious.

Where did I say I want to dictate what things are worth?

Aheadatime said:
Price gouging refers to dramatically raising the price of necessities like food, water, toiletries, and utilities in times of great need, which I agree is unethical. Buying a rare item on release day, and auctioning it off on ebay for a higher price later is normal, and not immoral at all. It's not immoral because we have free will and economic liberty in this country, so you can just not buy the damn thing. If enough people don't buy the damn thing, the guy who does that will stop doing it, because he's wasting money investing in a practice that doesn't pay out. If people do buy from him, then his market niche is working, and thus is 'worth' it. Worth is dictated by free will, people voluntarily exchanging money for goods.
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No, price gouging is broadly defined as the dramatic increase in price of goods or services beyond what is considered fair or reasonable (doesn't have to be a necessity). You want to argue that the "fair and reasonable" part of that is entirely defined by the market, which is absurd. It's predicated on the idea that consumers make informed purchases. They don't.

Aheadatime said:
That post exemplified that price is arbitrary, not based on quality. The guy who grew really tenderly and slowly didn't get paid out in the end. Because the market didn't ask for it, because the market is based on people and their complex natures, and chose price point over quality. The same way people pay low dollars without understanding the difference in quality, people pay top dollars without understanding the difference in quality. Quality isn't measurable or quantifiable, and it isn't the only factor which price gets measured against. Because again, the market is based on voluntary exchange, and people's different personalities, values, perceptions, hobbies, interests, incomes, etc., all play a role in that voluntary exchange.
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Quality isn't measurable? What on earth are you talking about? Of course it is. A car which breaks down after 10,000 miles is objectively shittier than one which runs for 50,000 miles.
 
colocowboy

colocowboy

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kwigybo88 said:
I'd suggest you take your own advice and look up the definition. I didnt say anything about telling people what they can or cannot charge for their goods. I said some goods are overpriced no matter how many people choose to buy them.

Try reading what's actually written.
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You said and I quote “price gouging” so apparently you don’t even read what you write! I have college degree in business, I literally took a test on it! The subject is called economics and it’s not me that has the misunderstanding. Too bad you can’t just admit you were wrong and learn from it rather than making yourself look foolish.
 
Aheadatime

Aheadatime

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kwigybo88 said:
You don't know what an externality is and you want to talk about markets? Okay then.

So you think there are no objective means by which one can evaluate the quality and worth of a product? Oh dude, you cant be serious.

Where did I say I want to dictate what things are worth?

No, price gouging is broadly defined as the dramatic increase in price of goods or services beyond what is considered fair or reasonable (doesn't have to be a necessity). You want to argue that the "fair and reasonable" part of that is entirely defined by the market, which is absurd. It's predicated on the idea that consumers make informed purchases. They don't.

Quality isn't measurable? What on earth are you talking about? Of course it is. A car which breaks down after 10,000 miles is objectively shittier than one which runs for 50,000 miles.
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You're not responding with any substance. You're coming off as very thick-headed and bent on arguing, rather than discussing. I'm straight on this. If you're interested in actually learning about the topic, check out Hayek's "Individualism and Economic Order". If you're not into reading, you can start off by watching some Milton Friedman on YT. I've learned long ago it's not wise to try to brush an alligator's teeth. He doesn't want his teeth brushed, and you'll end up losing a hand and wasting your time. Keep on keeping on brother.
 
Bakersfield

Bakersfield

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Here's my stance on Seed Junky.

Seed Junky releases some dank crosses, period.
But so does every other mainstream breeder, nowadays. :)

It seems that it is the seedbanks that are really sticking it to the consumer.
Seed Junky prices have doubled, but some of the banks are asking for 600% more than the old price
They are looking for suckers!
Newbs and clowns with too much money will bite at these prices.

I can buy direct from breeder seeds for $40, $60, $80, and $100 all day long that are more stable and just as dank as Seed Junky!

At this point, we can't be friends if you support this new price structure. :p
 
FluffsTravels

FluffsTravels

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Bakersfield said:
Here's my stance on Seed Junky.

Seed Junky releases some dank crosses, period.
But so does every other mainstream breeder, nowadays. :)

It seems that it is the seedbanks that are really sticking it to the consumer.
Seed Junky prices have doubled, but some of the banks are asking for 600% more than the old price
They are looking for suckers!
Newbs and clowns with too much money will bite at these prices.

I can buy direct from breeder seeds for $40, $60, $80, and $100 all day long that are more stable and just as dank as Seed Junky!

At this point, we can't be friends if you support this new price structure. :p
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This is my first time popping in this thread. I was looking at some SJ photos on Instaspam. Incredible, but that's weed porn these days. I have a Jbeezy WC cut that I LOVE. I was considering maybe getting some seeds. Am I to understand correctly that they don't have a retail outlet, and they can only be found through seed brokers? Furthermore, it sounds like the prices for SJ are high right now.?
I total agree with you on the "buy direct from breeder seeds for $40, $60, $80, and $100 all day long." There is just too much great stuff out there to pay more than $100 a pack, and I never pay that much.

A lot of pollen in being chucked right now. Imo, the key to finding true gold is running enough seeds from a reputable lot.
 
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LeftOurEyes

LeftOurEyes

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FluffsTravels said:
I was considering maybe getting some seeds. Am I to understand correctly that they don't have a retail outlet, and they can only be found through seed brokers? Furthermore, it sounds like the prices for SJ are high right now.?
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Seed Junky stopped selling seeds awhile back when he partnered with berner/cookies. This is why the prices are high now, the stuff being sold is old stock. They did just do a release of a fem strain called Emegen-C. They were only available in their cookie stores or a couple banks got some at the store and tripled the price to sell online.
 
Dividedsky

Dividedsky

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Bakersfield said:
Here's my stance on Seed Junky.

Seed Junky releases some dank crosses, period.
But so does every other mainstream breeder, nowadays. :)

It seems that it is the seedbanks that are really sticking it to the consumer.
Seed Junky prices have doubled, but some of the banks are asking for 600% more than the old price
They are looking for suckers!
Newbs and clowns with too much money will bite at these prices.

I can buy direct from breeder seeds for $40, $60, $80, and $100 all day long that are more stable and just as dank as Seed Junky!

At this point, we can't be friends if you support this new price structure. :p
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^ This is the best and most accurate post for those thinking of getting seed junky seeds and spending $800. At the end of the day do you, spend you money on whatever you want. Here's an example, happy hunting-


Just know you can get just as good or better heat for a fraction of the price and when I say fraction- I mean under $100. Fuck you can actually get all the seed junky strains for cheap considering all the big seed junky strains are in most other breeders crosses they make.
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genuity

genuity

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Bakersfield said:
The last thing I have to worry about is dropping coin on Seed Junky. :D

You have to aquire genetics to Chuck pollen so if a person wanted to invest in a pack of SJ for breeding then why not?
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The last part of your reply is what my first post is really about..

Are they investing in the genetics or (seed junky) the brand?

Some say just get the genetics elsewhere for cheaper.

But then you get into select (phenos/genos/yada,yada,yada)..
 
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