Nutrients for soil grows

Moabfighter

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I hope all find the simple route. Youare talking soil. Not hydro. Basics and long proven cheaper methods out there.
It’s hard to change after you pull off a good run. I don’t know whether I attribute my recent success to just getting a few years of experience with the grow, or the nute change up. Used to I used fox farms, mega crop, and maxi bloom with subpar results. Tried botanicare and the grow was good. I may just be paying attention to ppm and proper PH more. I don’t know.
 

MICHI-CAN

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It’s hard to change after you pull off a good run. I don’t know whether I attribute my recent success to just getting a few years of experience with the grow, or the nute change up. Used to I used fox farms, mega crop, and maxi bloom with subpar results. Tried botanicare and the grow was good. I may just be paying attention to ppm and proper PH more. I don’t know.
 

Lockedin

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FFHF / 25% chunky perlite for seedlings. Tap water only until:
Transplant to
FFOF / 25% chunky perlite - allow a few days to adjust to the hotter soil. Then,

Dr. Earth All purpose 2-2-2 Full strength Top-Dressed with 1 cup EWC (rough guess I end up at 3-2-2, pretty mild)
Continue until end of stretch.

Week 4 flower
1 Tbsp/gal unsulphured molasses every other watering.
Top Dress with FFOF & Dr Earth Flower Girl 3-9-4 & 1 Cup EWC.
Week 6
Top Dress with FFOF & Dr Earth Flower Girl 3-9-4.

Dense flavorful and tasty.

I'm looking to get better growth - I wouldn't mind seeing some stretch this round.
 

MICHI-CAN

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It’s hard to change after you pull off a good run. I don’t know whether I attribute my recent success to just getting a few years of experience with the grow, or the nute change up. Used to I used fox farms, mega crop, and maxi bloom with subpar results. Tried botanicare and the grow was good. I may just be paying attention to ppm and proper PH more. I don’t know.
It is a long journey from paint cans and miracle grow. Got sick of ph and nute issues. Spent three years and about 20 plants finding a solution. And as close to home as possible. Not saying I have a cure all miracle. But it seems to be working for me and my few free sample guys. I'm frugal and to broken or old to be crazy ambitious. And just my thing for all to consider.

Peace.
 

Moabfighter

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It is a long journey from paint cans and miracle grow. Got sick of ph and nute issues. Spent three years and about 20 plants finding a solution. And as close to home as possible. Not saying I have a cure all miracle. But it seems to be working for me and my few free sample guys. I'm frugal and to broken or old to be crazy ambitious. And just my thing for all to consider.

Peace.
Well what is it?
 

Furiousg3orge

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folks talk about nutes but fail to say what soil they are using. I’ve had poor results as a newb using FFOF and Fox farm trio. It seems I either burn the plants or go into flower with a deficiency. What I would kill for is an easy regimen with soil and nutes explained. It’s hard being a newb with so many nutes out there.
 

Moabfighter

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folks talk about nutes but fail to say what soil they are using. I’ve had poor results as a newb using FFOF and Fox farm trio. It seems I either burn the plants or go into flower with a deficiency. What I would kill for is an easy regimen with soil and nutes explained. It’s hard being a newb with so many nutes out there.
Pro mix plus a bag of perlite plus botanicare line and you’re good to go. Play with boosters and shit with it if you want, or use the botanicare by itself.
Here’s just with the botanicare pure blend pro grow and southern Ag GFF to keep roots clean. Pro mix and perlite. 6.5 PH.
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Furiousg3orge

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Pro mix plus a bag of perlite plus botanicare line and you’re good to go. Play with boosters and shit with it if you want, or use the botanicare by itself.
Here’s just with the botanicare pure blend pro grow and southern Ag GFF to keep roots clean. Pro mix and perlite. 6.5 PH.
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What is the feeding schedule? I tried going 1/2 the recommended with fox farm and burned the hell out of my plant. I then went less and it went into flower and went light green and yellow. I think that’s where a lot of us get confused.
 

Furiousg3orge

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What is the feeding schedule? I tried going 1/2 the recommended with fox farm and burned the hell out of my plant. I then went less and it went into flower and went light green and yellow. I think that’s where a lot of us get confused.
Also what’s the actual botanicare line? I’m perusing Amazon and there are quite a few is it just the bloom and pure blend? When do you start fertilizing with the botanicare with the promix, week 3 or so? Sorry for all the questions but I have yet to cultivate a healthy plant. I have herb but it’s awful and, it’s no doubt, because of my nutrients. Also, which Promix? HP, CC40, HP CC, potting soil mix?
 
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Moabfighter

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Also what’s the actual botanicare line? I’m perusing Amazon and there are quite a few is it just the bloom and pure blend? When do you start fertilizing with the botanicare with the promix, week 3 or so? Sorry for all the questions but I have yet to cultivate a healthy plant. I have herb but it’s awful and, it’s no doubt, because of my nutrients.
Order the botanicare pure blend pro grow and bloom. Also order the cal mag. And finally a bottle of “southern ag garden friendly fungicide”. Of course PH meter and ph up and down. I’ll help you man. And I use the veg from week one, and the bloom nute as soon as I change to flower. We will get you some booster later on. Flower fuel is the name.
 

Furiousg3orge

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Order the botanicare pure blend pro grow and bloom. Also order the cal mag. And finally a bottle of “southern ag garden friendly fungicide”. Of course PH meter and ph up and down. I’ll help you man. And I use the veg from week one, and the bloom nute as soon as I change to flower. We will get you some booster later on. Flower fuel is the name.
I do test and adjust ph going in and runoff, I have the ph dialed in for sure. I ordered the botanicare pure blend, bloom, and southern agh. So those should be here in a few days. The only thing I was unsure of is the soil. Promix makes a bunch - HP, HPCC, CC 40, potting soil mix, etc. Unfortunately I’m in a town with a Lowe’s and they don’t sell anything outside of miracle gro and stay green soil which I won’t touch. Other than that, I think I went with FFOF because it’s, what I perceived, as the best from my grow shop and figured it would be easy. Unfortunately for being such a hot soil it screws feeding times up and, as a newb, I can’t tell when nutes are needed. I think if I start with an easy nute regimen with a basic soil, the eye for nutrient addition will come in time.
 

Moabfighter

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I do test and adjust ph going in and runoff, I have the ph dialed in for sure. I ordered the botanicare pure blend, bloom, and southern agh. So those should be here in a few days. The only thing I was unsure of is the soil. Promix makes a bunch - HP, HPCC, CC 40, potting soil mix, etc. Unfortunately I’m in a town with a Lowe’s and they don’t sell anything outside of miracle gro and stay green soil which I won’t touch. Other than that, I think I went with FFOF because it’s, what I perceived, as the best from my grow shop and figured it would be easy. Unfortunately for being such a hot soil it screws feeding times up and, as a newb, I can’t tell when nutes are needed. I think if I start with an easy nute regimen with a basic soil, the eye for nutrient addition will come in time.
You got a Walmart? They actually carry a decent pro mix im using now. Add a bag of perlite to it. You want plenty of room for the roots to BREATHE!!!
 

Rurumo

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I do test and adjust ph going in and runoff, I have the ph dialed in for sure. I ordered the botanicare pure blend, bloom, and southern agh. So those should be here in a few days. The only thing I was unsure of is the soil. Promix makes a bunch - HP, HPCC, CC 40, potting soil mix, etc. Unfortunately I’m in a town with a Lowe’s and they don’t sell anything outside of miracle gro and stay green soil which I won’t touch. Other than that, I think I went with FFOF because it’s, what I perceived, as the best from my grow shop and figured it would be easy. Unfortunately for being such a hot soil it screws feeding times up and, as a newb, I can’t tell when nutes are needed. I think if I start with an easy nute regimen with a basic soil, the eye for nutrient addition will come in time.
Maxibloom is easy to use too (and produces awesome results), no need for cal/mag in most circumstances, but you need to get a well draining soil sorted out first, and of course you still need to PH it.
 

Furiousg3orge

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You got a Walmart? They actually carry a decent pro mix im using now. Add a bag of perlite to it. You want plenty of room for the roots to BREATHE!!!
Yup but mine doesn't carry any of the promix line - just went today looking through the garden section. So most of the promix varieties are ok to use? I'll have to fire up the googler and see what the actual differences are.

I'm reading up and they make, essentially, a soilless line that is peat and perlite and a seperate potting soil. Is it the soil or the peat based mix?
 
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Furiousg3orge

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Maxibloom is easy to use too (and produces awesome results), no need for cal/mag in most circumstances, but you need to get a well draining soil sorted out first, and of course you still need to PH it.
I'm looking at them now. So just two parts? The gro and the bloom? It looks water soluble, so I'm assuming you would have to flush a few times during the grow?
 
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