Bad Dog Genetics

Bad Dawg

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hillbill

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Vaping that very good LVTK x LBF in my newer Flowermate 5.0S with 30 seconds to warm to high. Lots of thoughts and euphoric in reasonable doses, a little too much and anxiety creeps in. Buds dry to little tall pyramids of extreme tightness. Lemon and something like woodsy incense. Still have a few seeds from a generous nicety by Bad Dawg.
 

KlompenOG

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I know nothing about Bad Dawg genetics other than the fact that when my sseed collection was destroyed by heat, a kind soul sent me some spare freebie seed packs he had laying around. I got some interesting results out of them, but I have also had a LOT of problems with herming(literally 100% herm rate on everything I have flowered :( ). I think the herming was mostly a pest-related issue because apparently some pests can disrupt the plant's ethylene production. I've eliminated light leaks and many other issues as the cause so its either genetics or pests and I suspect its a combination of both. For example: Black Triangle hermed a little but the stamen contained no pollen, while Killer Orange went from partly female to entirely male. Loud N' Proud went from strong female to mostly male back to mostly female in the end with a few viable seeds.

So clearly something is testing the genetics pretty hard, but now that I have the pests under control we should see for sure with the next plants going in. I know that's long winded but I want to make it clear that I think the herming I got on this Gooey 13 is probably not its fault. So far despite having picked literally hundreds of nanners off of it during bad outbreaks, none of the bud appears to be seeded. So I think she's another one making nanners with little or no pollen. With the number of them there is no way I plucked them all. Despite all of that though, I have kept a clone of this girl and I got it from her before I put her into flower(so it hasn't hermed)

ANYWAY.... here is Gooey 13, the sweet apricot-tasting beast
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Coalcat

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What did you have for pests…because I doubt it’s them causing the herms. Like I would give it a .5% chance it’s that. It’s also not the genetics. I pop at least 50 though out my growing season and MAYBE I get 3 that will pop a banana or two, I have only gotten one that went full blown herm in the last 3 years. So unless you are just growing one type of really really herm prone seeds (like you found a bag of seeds in a junkyard and that’s all you have tried growing) its not that. It’s light or heat most likely. Plants need specific stresses to herm…I mean look at what some people do for defoliation…if that doesn’t cause herm.

Its something in your environment, I’d bet the world on it. What are the temps that you get in that closet? What type of timer are you using for those leds? Mechanical? Because the digital ones can leak a bit of current and cause the leds to glow sometimes.
 

hillbill

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What did you have for pests…because I doubt it’s them causing the herms. Like I would give it a .5% chance it’s that. It’s also not the genetics. I pop at least 50 though out my growing season and MAYBE I get 3 that will pop a banana or two, I have only gotten one that went full blown herm in the last 3 years. So unless you are just growing one type of really really herm prone seeds (like you found a bag of seeds in a junkyard and that’s all you have tried growing) its not that. It’s light or heat most likely. Plants need specific stresses to herm…I mean look at what some people do for defoliation…if that doesn’t cause herm.

Its something in your environment, I’d bet the world on it. What are the temps that you get in that closet? What type of timer are you using for those leds? Mechanical? Because the digital ones can leak a bit of current and cause the leds to glow sometimes.
Environmental cause seem most probable and herms are much more likely indoors. Hermie prone seeds may be successful outdoors and a disaster indoors.
 

mawasmada

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I know nothing about Bad Dawg genetics other than the fact that when my sseed collection was destroyed by heat, a kind soul sent me some spare freebie seed packs he had laying around. I got some interesting results out of them, but I have also had a LOT of problems with herming(literally 100% herm rate on everything I have flowered :( ). I think the herming was mostly a pest-related issue because apparently some pests can disrupt the plant's ethylene production. I've eliminated light leaks and many other issues as the cause so its either genetics or pests and I suspect its a combination of both. For example: Black Triangle hermed a little but the stamen contained no pollen, while Killer Orange went from partly female to entirely male. Loud N' Proud went from strong female to mostly male back to mostly female in the end with a few viable seeds.

So clearly something is testing the genetics pretty hard, but now that I have the pests under control we should see for sure with the next plants going in. I know that's long winded but I want to make it clear that I think the herming I got on this Gooey 13 is probably not its fault. So far despite having picked literally hundreds of nanners off of it during bad outbreaks, none of the bud appears to be seeded. So I think she's another one making nanners with little or no pollen. With the number of them there is no way I plucked them all. Despite all of that though, I have kept a clone of this girl and I got it from her before I put her into flower(so it hasn't hermed)

ANYWAY.... here is Gooey 13, the sweet apricot-tasting beast
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I've only grown out 2 Bad Dawg strains thus far, and both were very vigorous. I'm not as advanced as many posters here, and I can be rough on plants haha
I even took 7 cuttings from a LBF f2 3 weeks into flowering. She paused growth for about a week to ten days and then stretched in every stupid direction imaginable. Never one nanner.
I'm betting environment, maybe something shocking in the grow medium too?
 
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