captainmorgan
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Yeah, everything is puppies and rainbows.
I don't believe this is an intractable problem, we already have many effective solutions and it's just getting started. I believe humanity had previous dealings with a coronavirus pandemic in the late 19th century, one of the current common cold viruses.Yeah, everything is puppies and rainbows.
Oh I agree, but the science of this thing is well known now and there are hundreds of other antibody therapeutics and antivirals being looked at, some are broad spectrum.Yeah I know about the 1890 pandemic, I first posted about it like a year ago. All I'm saying is we are not out of the woods yet and there are too many unknowns to think we are past the worst just yet. Hell we don't even know the long term damage from it to the human body or the fate of the long haulers. Sure we have better treatments to lower the severity but we don't know the true damage it does.
Very true. I had a patient yesterday that was exposed to Covid with no symptoms of Covid instead she got abdominal lymphoma cancer. She knows she was exposed to Covid because she tested positive for the antibodies!Yeah I know about the 1890 pandemic, I first posted about it like a year ago. All I'm saying is we are not out of the woods yet and there are too many unknowns to think we are past the worst just yet. Hell we don't even know the long term damage from it to the human body or the fate of the long haulers. Sure we have better treatments to lower the severity but we don't know the true damage it does.
This is the worrying one.In Oregon, Scientists Find a Virus Variant With a Worrying Mutation (Published 2021)
In a single sample, geneticists discovered a version of the coronavirus first identified in Britain with a mutation originally reported in South Africa.www.nytimes.com
The Brazilian variant is killing folks who had the wild (original) virus. The longer it's out there spreading, the more risk we are in.That does not seem to be the case.
How do you know this?No shit, it would be supremely optomistic to think this thing will be a memory anytime soon, The Chineese as always are dicking the WHO team around chances of finding out true genesis and origin of Covid on par W/hitting Powerball.ccguns
There is no question that the Chinese government was actively involved in spamming propaganda about the virus.
I think that the Chinese government is wrong in their suppression of their people, but it is hard to argue that once Trump started his propaganda attack on them to use for his re-election campaign that they had to respond.
It would be interesting if they included Trump's state funded criminal syndicate in the propaganda too.
It helps when the leader of the nation is not actively trying to get people to spread the virus.I'm especially pissed at how China has Weaponized their success in dealing w/Covid to propogandize the superiority of their system compared to western democracies.CAVEAT the Chineese Govt.(nothing against regular Chineese people)ccguns
It’s not all hellhounds and fireballs either.Yeah, everything is puppies and rainbows.
It’s somewhere in between the sky is falling and everything is gonna be normal.It’s not all hellhounds and fireballs either.
Nuance is dead on most news outlets, and then skewed some more when shared on social media. Much of it is clickbait meant to illicit a “we’re all gonna die” response.
If anything, the numbers in Israel show how well vaccination works. Same for countries that focus on age groups and already show major improvements in those age group. in more than one way. Total infections down, hospitalizations way down, deaths even more down, even after one jab the risk of severe sickness becomes minimal. R-rate of British variant of china virus can be kept under 1.0 easily as well, which is what really matters. Anti-bodies have shown to last over 8 months already, and likely will much longer. The ‘news’ that claims otherwise is typically focused on a single aspect of the immune system, in which anti bodies do longer work on just one of many ways they do. Whether it’s through vaccines or ‘enough’ people getting infected, some level of herd immunity is inevitable. Full herd immunity is no requirement, partial in combination with testing, better care, and standard preventative measures will do.
More deadly versions aren’t necessarily bad either. Virusses that kill the host aren’t evolving in a for them beneficial way. Arguably covid isn’t deadly enough and it spreads too slow (else more people and governments would act responsible).
Cases worldwide dropped with 50% in the first 6 weeks of 2021, partly due to partial immunity for those who were vaccinated or infected. South Africa is a good example where partial immunity slowed the spread significantly. Additionally, it appears to be at least to some extent (nuance...) seasonal, or at least worst in winter, meaning the numbers will drop even further and faster soon. By next season, most people will have had their first jab, reducing hospitalizations and severe sickness to a point the hospitals are no longer overloaded.
It’s going to be a good summer. Might even get a cat-puppy.