Pandemic 2020

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mooray

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The level of the comments on a Spreading Trump Lies site. It was one thing to gauge the thoughts of people with a different opinions but now stupidity rues the roost it seems. Ever since Fox readers needed a new home since election day.

My comments? You are new to the political section?
That was the nice thing about the pre-Trump era, the severe levels of stupidity were kept internal, or to small private groups. Now it's empowered and legitimized, what a step backwards in an already existing down trend.

I didn't think you were a bozo, but I don't have everyone's vibe committed to memory just yet.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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It will be higher once the results of vaccinations become apparent as more people are vaccinated and confidence grows. Many of the elderly and vulnerable are being protected so I would expect mortality rates to drop at least over the next couple of months.
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68% of Americans Support Biden's Pandemic Response, Most Say Lifting Restrictions Too Fast: Poll

More than two-thirds of Americans approve of President Joe Biden's response to the coronavirus pandemic, according to an ABC News/Ipsos poll released Sunday.

The survey found that 68 percent of Americans support Biden's COVID-19 response, including 98 percent of Democrats, 35 percent of Republicans, and 67 percent of independents.

Biden's approval rating regarding his management of the COVID-19 pandemic has been consistent since he took office in January. According to an ABC News/ Ipsos poll conducted from January 22 to January 23, 69 percent of Americans back Biden's COVID-19 response, including 97 percent of Democrats, 40 percent of Republicans, and 70 percent of independents.

In comparison, the highest approval rating former President Donald Trump received for his handling of the pandemic was in mid-March of 2020, when 55 percent of Americans approved of his response.

The new poll was conducted from March 5 to March 6 and randomly sampled 521 adults. The results have a margin of error of 4.8 points.

Biden has pledged to make tackling the pandemic a focus of his presidency. During his first day in office on January 20, he signed an executive order that enacted a face mask mandate and social distancing requirements in federal buildings and on federal land.

Biden's administration also hopes to work with Congress to pass his $1.9 trillion stimulus plan. The plan was passed by the Senate on Saturday and now moves to the House of Representatives for approval.

The legislation included $1,400 stimulus payments for individuals making less than $75,000 a year, an increase in the child tax credit and direct funding to state and local governments, as well as hundreds of billions of dollars for school reopenings, aid to small businesses, and coronavirus vaccine rollouts.

As Biden works to boost the federal response to COVID-19, some states, including Texas and Mississippi, have rolled back coronavirus restrictions, such as removing mask mandates and reducing capacity limits for businesses.

Health experts, including Dr. Anthony Fauci, have warned against reopening too soon.

"I would advise the people of Texas and Mississippi to just abide by the public health measures that we talk about all the time: Uniform wearing of masks, physical distancing, avoiding congregate settings, particularly indoors, washing your hands frequently, we just have to keep doing that because we know it works," Fauci said during a Thursday appearance on MSNBC.

According to Sunday's ABC News/Ipsos poll, the majority of Americans think that loosening mask mandates and COVID-19 restrictions on public gatherings are happening too fast, 56 percent and 50 percent respectively.

Newsweek reached out to the White House, but didn't hear back in time for publication.
 

TacoMac

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We'll have another big spike next month.

We've got spring break, Daytona bike week coming up and Florida has no covid restrictions.
 

captainmorgan

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The percentage of the more infectious variants is rising and nearing the tipping point. Stinky and the GOP are pushing hard to lift all restrictions in order to sabotage Biden's pandemic response because they know this too. Between the stupidity of the public and the sabotage from the right I see another surge coming too.
 

injinji

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Speaking of Florida. The Governor announced today the age limit is being lowered to 60 year old's starting the 15th, next Monday. I'll take which ever is offered.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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What a difference 48 days of adult supervision can make!
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COVID-19 vaccine, scarce now, could be in surplus across US by April (usatoday.com)

America could soon be swimming in COVID-19 vaccine. The shift from scarcity to surplus could bring its own problems.

In just two months, the United States may be swimming in COVID-19 vaccine. Literally swimming. The 500 million 0.5 or 0.3-milliliter doses expected to be shipped by then are enough to fill a 55,000-gallon swimming pool.

As hard as it is to imagine now as people frantically call, click and line up to get vaccinated, the nation is close to shifting from a situation of scarcity to one of abundance.

“It's not a switch that flips, but it's a sliding scale that happens differently community by community,” said Andy Slavitt, White House senior advisor for the COVID Response Team. “This is not something that will start at some magical day in the future. It has begun today, and it's something that we have to make sure we're addressing."

With a plentiful supply of vaccine, there will be more urgency to convince the reluctant to accept it, experts say. Otherwise, the abundance of vaccine will become a stagnating surplus that threatens to undermine the nation's ability to move beyond the pandemic.

"When we start to have more vaccine available, we're really going to be in bad shape because what we're going to see is a lot of people who don't want to get vaccinated," said Bernadette Boden-Albala, dean of the public health program at the University of California, Irvine.

So far, about 18% of all Americans have been immunized against COVID-19. Boden-Albala thinks there will be vaccine surpluses in some areas as soon as early April.

Then, the challenges will start.

"If we've got whole states in this country that don't want to mask and don't want to socially distance, then I'm very concerned we'll have people there who don't want to be vaccinated either," she said.

Spreading the message: Free vaccine
Messaging will matter, experts say.

The easiest group to reach will be those who've simply put it off because of the hassle to get an appointment.

For them, the message needs to be that immunization's quick, easy and free, said Christopher Morse, an expert on health communication at Bryant University in Smithfield, Rhode Island.

"You want to tell them it's free and how easy it is to get an appointment," he said. "Something like, 'In the time it takes you to order a cup of coffee, you could be vaccinated against COVID-19.'"

The message should not be "we've got tons of vaccine," because then people will be convinced they can put it off for longer, he said.

Some people who haven't gotten vaccinated simply haven't had the time or felt rushed to do so. Messages about why it's worth their while will be needed, experts say.

"You might say, 'Get vaccinated, spend Easter with your family,' Or a church might encourage people to be fully vaccinated so they can sing together," said Dr. Kelly Moore, deputy director of the nonprofit Immunization Action Coalition.

Younger people who don't necessarily feel at risk might be convinced to get vaccinated to help others. But they might be more enticed so they can go out to the movies again, eat dinner with friends or hang out in bars.

"They're going to be focusing more on the social impact versus the health impacts," Morse said.

Mobile clinics, pop-up vaccination sites and public service announcements from local leaders will be important to reach those in low-income communities of color where vaccine uptake has lagged because of access and hesitancy.

The value of community health centers:For the most vulnerable Americans, these clinics are trusted, accessible and vital to vaccine rollout

Such efforts have begun in some places, but they must ramp up significantly as a greater percentage of the population is immunized and the extent of vaccine reluctance becomes clear, experts say.

In California, Orange County is sending eight-person vaccination travel teams into homeless camps, jails and other hard-to-reach populations.

"They come in a van, no appointments required," and they vaccinate whoever is available, said Margaret Bredehoft, deputy agency director of public health services.
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CCGNZ

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I just hope that between people who can't get over their phobias to get vaccinated and stupid Governors who completely throw caution to the wind opening up don't combine to keep Covid mutating into some super pathogen. We're already at the stage where we'll be getting shots for yrs. similar to influenza. But the longer this thing can mutate it could hit the lottery and turn into something even more horrific HOPE NOT!!!ccguns
 

hanimmal

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I just hope that between people who can't get over their phobias to get vaccinated and stupid Governors who completely throw caution to the wind opening up don't combine to keep Covid mutating into some super pathogen. We're already at the stage where we'll be getting shots for yrs. similar to influenza. But the longer this thing can mutate it could hit the lottery and turn into something even more horrific HOPE NOT!!!ccguns
And this is just this one virus, this one period of time. Humanity should have figured this out when there were 60k people dying every year with the flu.

Hopefully we will figure out new ways to do things to reduce the exposure to each other's particular brews. Because if we just go back to business as usual, the next pandemic is just a matter of time.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Do republican state officials really want to start this shit? I mean what about Trump's response to the pandemic? Or how about many republican state governors and public health officials? The feds might be able the indict an awful lot of republican officials for manslaughter, starting with Trump and he can go down for mass second degree murder.
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Macomb County Prosecutor says criminal charges possible against Governor Whitmer over nursing home deaths (wxyz.com)

Macomb County Prosecutor says criminal charges possible against Governor Whitmer over nursing home deaths

(WXYZ) — Criminal charges could be in the works against Governor Gretchen Whitmer over putting COVID patients inside nursing homes used as hubs early in the pandemic.

New Macomb County Prosecutor Peter Lucido says people who lost loved ones to COVID as residents or staff inside nursing homes should go back to get the vital information about the circumstances of their death and take that to local police and make a complaint as a wrongful death.

Lucido says with HIPAA laws, he can’t get that information in his own investigation.

New York Governor Andrew Cuomo is currently under investigation for allegedly doctoring the number of COVID deaths inside nursing homes. Lucido says only 5 states including Michigan and New York used the care facilities as hubs.

Lucido tells 7 Action News, “If we find there’s been willful neglect of office if we find there’s been reckless endangerment of a person’s life by bringing them in then we would move forward with charges against the Governor. Of course, we would. Nobody’s above the law in this state.”

Anyone who’s had loved ones inside nursing homes during the last year knows about the pain of COVID deaths in isolation with no in-person visits.

Lucido started looking into this last year as a State Senator. He issued a statement in August that said more than 2,000 residents and 21 staff died in nursing homes, 32% of all deaths.

Lucido is asking people to go back to the nursing homes and gather the vital information surrounding deaths and take it to local police to file a wrongful death report.

He will be meeting with Macomb County Police to instruct them on how to process and verify the information and bring it to his office.

“Why did my mom or why did my dad, brother, sister, or aunt die? Was it because of the policy by bringing in COVID-infected patients that spread to my mom that killed my mother?” Lucido said.

After becoming Prosecutor this year, Lucido asked fellow county prosecutors to form a Blue-Ribbon Committee for consistency investigating these cases.

That Association as a group declined and said Lucido should make the request to the Michigan Attorney General and feds. Lucido provided letters showing he did that last May.

The Attorney General said there was not a proper basis to open a criminal investigation. The U. S. Attorney said they would look into his request.

“I didn’t receive a very warm welcome. This is not political everyone. This is about people who passed away at the behest of a policy that was created by the Governor,” Lucido tells 7 Action News.

We got a statement from Governor Whitmer that says:

Our top priority from the start has been protecting Michiganders, especially seniors and our most vulnerable. The administration’s policies carefully tracked CDC guidance on nursing homes, and we prioritized testing of nursing home residents and staff to save lives. Early in the pandemic, the state acted swiftly to create a network of regional hubs with isolation units and adequate PPE to prevent the spread of COVID-19 within a facility. In addition, we have offered 100 percent of nursing home resident priority access to the vaccine. Both the former head of AARP, as well as an independent U-M study, praised our work to save lives in nursing homes.

Mr. Lucido’s comments are shameful political attacks based in neither fact nor reality. Even his former colleague, Republican Sen. Ed McBroom, has said they "have not seen any evidence or testimony that says that a nursing home was forced to take someone against their will." And there’s a reason why Mr. Lucido’s colleagues have publicly rebuked this politically-motivated waste of taxpayer dollars. Michiganders are tired of these petty partisan games, and we won’t be distracted by them either.
 

CCGNZ

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I remember Obama in 2014 I think,setting up a rapid response team of Epidemiologists and Virologists to respond and immediately isolate any threats of this nature only to have it disbanded by that very smart genius CHEETOMAN.ccguns
 

CCGNZ

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I'm also beginning to think that these Rep. Governors are deliberately trying to torpedoe the Biden Adm. with their actions concerning Covid hope this is not true it would be an act of National Treason.ccguns
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Andy Slavitt: 'For Once We Are Not Only Dealing With Today, But We Are Planning For The Future'

Andy Slavitt, White House Senior Advisor for Covid Response, joins Katy Tur with his thoughts on the newly passed relief bill, and the latest on the efforts to get America vaccinated.
 
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