Agreed...I'm not trying to say it doesn't have it's place....it just kinda turns me off a bit. No need for males in breeding....tissue culture...comparing cannabis to fruit and veg breeding practices.....of course there should be a market for homogoneous varieties that breed true. It's just one portion of the market....and one I don't have a lot of interest in.
Heh, yep, the same (I already had some hippy "Grow your own stone" book that gave useless advice but learned the basics reading between the lines on Overgrow around 04... plenty of garbage advice then but good stuff too once you recognized the good from the bad), and had the same experience during my first orders from overseas... such a long wait back then and oh... the subterfuge.
I think whats going to have to happen is a lot of these landraces and other strains are going to have to be reintroduced along with people becoming more educated on healthy sustainable breeding practices. I like the advice of doing open pollination then doing your specific breedings as to preserve the lines so if you ever want to go back into them. I've dabbled in breeding but am now looking into it more seriously and I think with all of my future projects that's what I'm going to do. Plus with techniques, I'm learning about like bagging the branches that have pollen instead of moving the males to an entirely new area will definitely help me save some space and also allow me to do better breeding. One thing I'm curious about is if I have like 5 males, taking 5g of pollen from each, mixing it all together to make a 25g batch, and seeing how much diversity I get.
Ya rados sour apple drop (sour d x c99) had a handful of crosses with other older cuts. Thought it was nice to c
any links to school a noob on mms? is star pupil not good?
outsider looking in, but, does Masonic claim to be a master breeder? Could it be argued that he provides an outlet for relatively cheap untested f1 crosses( seen many of his packs for 25-35)? Sure there are always better options, but I think the game is big enough for anyone who can survive.
To be honest, I've always thought cap was a fucking asshole and have avoided dealing with him because of his shitty attitude, even though some of the gear is obviously fire. There's fire gear everywhere now though. No need for narcissistic prima donnas and buyer's clubs and people who collaborate with scumbags or any of that kind of bullshit. It's 2021. We've gotten to the point that people can find keepers in a pack from even the most amateurish pollen chuckers out there and even autoflowers are breaking into the 30% club.
Man, that dude has mental problems. He can't even maintain his train of thought on a livestream. I'm not really in the know on all the drama stuff between him and Riot and Oni because I've really just lost interest in even trying to keep up with it, but I wouldn't trust anything from Masonic from what I've seen. I'm pretty sure whatever parentage is on the label is half-right at best. He seems like the kind of clown who would throw random bagseed in a pack to make a buck and/or have pollen from multiple donors flying all over the place.
Yeah I think that argument could be reasonably made. I can’t and don’t think many could speak to the legitimacy of lineage in his actual crosses but I also think for a lot of the people shitting on him it’s more out of principal as opposed to what he’s offering. Why go to a dude that’s clearly just in it for the money and has a shitty attitude towards the entire thing when you could spend a bit more money on a standup breeders work and eventually just start making your own beans exactly like Masonic.
Ya thats fine, like hawg wild said the dude seems to just come across as having some issues at least to me. I also never said he was a master breeder, what is a master breeder? Do the give an award once you reach the level? Hahaha jk.
To me, he's like Ethos. Like... who the fuck is this guy? I've been around forever. Took a break and came back around the scene and everybody and their mother is a breeder now. Some great old forum friends have seed companies that are doing well and producing fire (Green Team Genetics, for example), but a lot of these guys weren't even growing 5 years ago and their shit gets hyped all over social media like they're the second coming. Gotta watch out for "influencers" and fake reviews and people hyping up shit they've never even grown on word of mouth alone. Facebook is the absolute worst. There are sooooo many Facebook groups that are nothing more than some newbie grower and his friends with a ton of alt accounts hyping up untested gear to take advantage of newbies who don't know any better. A lot of today's "breeders" don't even know the bare minimum basics about growing but their seeds sell like hotcakes because their shills are all over the place. It doesn't help when YouTubers with a large audience (looking at you, Future Cannabis Project and Adam Dunn) will let any old jackass hype their tall tales on their shows, which just serves to legitimize the clowns in the eyes of much of the audience.
O man don't get started on ethos, supposedly the dude has a pretty colorful past- charged with throwing a dog off a balcony.
Couldn't have said it any better. Most of these so called breeders have never risked their asses for the plant and it shows. Compound has Chad written all over him. Masonics always running his mouth about compton and shit like thats some kind of instant credibility. fatcat is another clown chucking f1s of other current breeders gear and slapping some cute little packaging on it. Houston gdp and Cuban Mango? Lol give me a fucking break. Oh but alot of the seedbanks be thirsty as fuck to partner up with anyone that has a decent following on social media. Meanwhile guys like green team who've been working their selections for years and put out nothing but fire rarely get a mention.
Exactly. Green Team has been knocking it out of the park since long before he was making crosses. He's a stand-up guy and his plants have always been incredible, but I hardly ever see him mentioned. If it were me, I probably wouldn't charge as much as he does, at least until the demand is there, but, at the same time, the work is definitely worth the cost.
Ya compounds Chris did some shady shit to Jeff, he basically stole the biz and locked him out of the online socials. So Jeff went and started wyeast which I support. I still have some compound gear, I believe they compound was sold, you can tell that compound has some big money behind it now. Have to say this about compound, they have some fucking fire!
His new stuff is full price but he runs some badass deals on his older lines fairly often on his other ig page. He's not working with any banks anymore but honestly I'd rather buy direct since he deserves to be well compensated for his work and ships quick as fuck. Always be flowering and tsvb are legit as can be too and don't play that hype game
I'm a little jelly about that tee I need me one of those lol. I've scored some crazy steals on a ton of his gear though so I can't complain a single bit. People can keep sleeping all they want their loss is my gain