even if it only came down to social distancing at your local Starbucks; you've been affected.
Conservatives programed to trigger at words "Black Lives Matter" by Russian trolls.
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Fogdog
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You said that anybody who doesn't think they are not affected by Putin's (and US authoritarian right) propaganda campaign is delusional. So, yeah, I'm affected all right. A free and fair election was nearly overturned by an anti-democratic faction that was raised and organized into attacking the US Capitol Building. Some of that mob were intent on capturing congressmen as hostages and murdering Trump's political enemies. In that sense, you are right. That does affect me. If that's what you meant, then I apologize for assuming you meant something else.
What I'm not buying is that everybody in this country is influenced by that propaganda to do Putin's bidding. I'm not angry over the attempt at tearing down our democracy and installing Trump as maximum leader because Putin's propaganda. I'm angry because right wing authoritarians nearly stole away my freedom. That threatens me and my first response is hostility against them. Anger is a valid emotion for me to have when somebody threatens me. If you did not mean this, then I got it wrong when I thought that is what you were saying.
Fogdog
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There is plenty of objective evidence to give one cause to reject your theory that we all are behaving according to Putin's wishes. You state it with a certainty that is unjustified.
not the behavior, the chaos and discord that he delights in.
Fogdog
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That's not what @hanimmal is saying.
I agree that I was affected by the sacking of the Capitol Building. I respond to the threat behind that, not Putin's propaganda. What some assert is that Putin's propaganda is directly causing all of us to change our behavior. I disagree but it's not possible to prove a negative. As evidence that we are not all being brainwashed by Putin is the fact that Trump lost the election and hundreds of thousands of us participated in protests against police brutality, the killing of George Floyd and support for Black Lives Matters. Anybody who says otherwise needs to show more proof than a few clips from you tube.
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hanimmal
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I am not saying that 'we are all behaving according to Putin's wishes'. That is a goal post shift from my agreement of the majority of us being 'affected by the' militarized propaganda attack that Putin has been conducting on our society.
Do you also agree that you are affected by people's being radicalized against wearing masks during this pandemic?
Regardless of your not wanting/willing to believe/understand that everyone is impacted or not, do you disagree that everyone/large portion of our citizens have encountered Putin militarized trolling? Because if you can agree that we have at least been shown that over 128 million people were being spammed I think it was over 9 billion times prior to the 2016 election, and that it has only grown from there due to Trump not allowing his government do much if anything to stop the propaganda.
It is easy to think that you are fully responding to the underlying problem (like the capital riot) and because you are on the right 'side' of the issue doesn't mean that you were also not impacted by all the propaganda that led up to it too.
i'm talking to you..not @hanimmal.
the chaos of Insurrection as he watched live had Putin with 5 boxes of tissues and a jar of Vaseline.
Fogdog
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Fogdog
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Agree that I'm affected by people who are affected by Putin's propaganda.
If that's what you are saying.
hanimmal
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That is why I am pretty confident in my belief that almost everyone in America has been affected by this attack on our citizens from the Russian military to varying degrees.
V256.420
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How do you wipe vaseline off with tissue paper? Girls...............jeez
no everyone is affected the same way..some are all in "Q" and some are fighting for Truth, Justice and the American way.
that shit used to give me hope as a child..didn't need to know kardashian fart ranges..what kind of farts do you think comes out of kims ass since it's so large? anyone? i'm torn between reverberation and poof! because it gets smited out..you would have to know volume x surface area.
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Fogdog
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Fogdog
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The Science of Making Americans Hurt Their Own Country
A new report lays bare why Russian disinformation succeeds.
The Science of Making Americans Hurt Their Own Country
A new report lays bare why Russian disinformation succeeds.
Unlike in 2016, Russian intelligence operatives weren’t in the business of hacking and leaking this time around. Instead they concentrated on planting what they would call kompromat. The NIC focuses in particular on the activity of Andriy Derkach, a Russian agent and Ukrainian citizen who used former President Donald Trump’s lawyer, Rudy Giuliani, to spread disinformation about Joe Biden and his family. The report also mentions Konstantin Kilimnik, another Russian agent, who was playing the same game.
The tag line of the article is found in the middle:
Russian disinformation doesn’t succeed thanks to the genius of Russians; it succeeds thanks to the sharp partisanship of Americans. Russian disinformation works because
I made some changes for the sake of accuracy.
hanimmal
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https://www.rawstory.com/natalie-chase/
According to The Denver Post, Arapahoe County District Court Natalie Chase is stepping down from her position following censure by the Colorado Supreme Court for repeated use of a racial slur.
"The Colorado Supreme Court on Friday censured 18th Judicial District Court Judge Natalie Chase and said in an order she failed 'to maintain the high standards of judicial conduct required of a judge.' Chase agreed to resign next month and did not dispute the facts of the six incidents outlined in the court's order," reported Elise Schmelzer. "Public censure of a Colorado judge is extremely rare and most disciplinary proceedings are hidden from the taxpayers who pay judges' salaries. Although more than 400 judges are working in the state at any given time, only four judges were publicly censured between 2010 and 2020."
"Chase in late January or early February of 2020 drove two lower-level court employees to a training in Pueblo," said the report. "During the drive, Chase asked one of the other employees, who is Black, why Black people can use the N-word and white people cannot along with other questions about the slur, according to the Supreme Court's order. Chase, who is white, used the full word several times during the conversation and made the employee, who was trapped in the car and couldn't leave, feel uncomfortable, hurt and angry."
The report also noted that Chase belittled the Black Lives Matter movement from the bench to a court employee during the George Floyd protests, and said she would boycott the Super Bowl over players taking a knee while wearing her robes, called another judge a "derogatory term" while speaking to court employees, and "directed her law clerk to edit personal emails for her and to research a personal legal matter not connected to her work."
Watch a report on the incident below:
According to The Denver Post, Arapahoe County District Court Natalie Chase is stepping down from her position following censure by the Colorado Supreme Court for repeated use of a racial slur.
"The Colorado Supreme Court on Friday censured 18th Judicial District Court Judge Natalie Chase and said in an order she failed 'to maintain the high standards of judicial conduct required of a judge.' Chase agreed to resign next month and did not dispute the facts of the six incidents outlined in the court's order," reported Elise Schmelzer. "Public censure of a Colorado judge is extremely rare and most disciplinary proceedings are hidden from the taxpayers who pay judges' salaries. Although more than 400 judges are working in the state at any given time, only four judges were publicly censured between 2010 and 2020."
"Chase in late January or early February of 2020 drove two lower-level court employees to a training in Pueblo," said the report. "During the drive, Chase asked one of the other employees, who is Black, why Black people can use the N-word and white people cannot along with other questions about the slur, according to the Supreme Court's order. Chase, who is white, used the full word several times during the conversation and made the employee, who was trapped in the car and couldn't leave, feel uncomfortable, hurt and angry."
The report also noted that Chase belittled the Black Lives Matter movement from the bench to a court employee during the George Floyd protests, and said she would boycott the Super Bowl over players taking a knee while wearing her robes, called another judge a "derogatory term" while speaking to court employees, and "directed her law clerk to edit personal emails for her and to research a personal legal matter not connected to her work."
Watch a report on the incident below:
captainmorgan
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DIY-HP-LED
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Considering it now has a for profit motive, the domestic disinformation system of hate radio, Newsmax OAN and FOX have become the most dangerous elements in America. It's bad enough with morons pulling shit out of their assholes and having Facebook and twitter turn them into national political forces like Qnon. People have a right to the truth and the government a duty to suppress disinformation and lies that cause social harm. If yer worried about government overreach, that's what the courts are for, to call balls and strikes. This is not new either the US government has always suppressed such shit to the extent it can, opinions are one thing, disinformation is another. The FCC can separate the two out, for those who sprinkle bullshit in with opinion, including the Hannitys, Carlsons and their script writers. They just need the will, changes to law and the scope of regulation.
A house divided cannot stand and it cannot stand to be divided by bullshit fostering social division. Just be creative and do it inside the constitution and law (new law). This ain't polite politics as usual, this is social warfare and sedition for profit and if these assholes win with lies it will destroy the country.
Joe is one cool guy
Has anyone else noticed that everything Conservative focused is fear based? I even watch the Inspiration Channel because of Gunsmoke comes on there sometimes. Every single commercial is designed to scare the viewer into buying some sort of service or send money to them because of the gun grabbers lol...Even in speeches in public, the conservative media, every bit of it is fear based. Its really sad
hanimmal
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Ive been pleasantly surprised by him so far.
And if not fear, they are amping up the snow flaking. I can't hear Joe Namath's voice without thinking 'get what you deserve' like someone is keeping it away from them.