Northeastbudz
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I guess thats what happens when you re drop something and triple the price
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CaliWorthington
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After 20 minutes they sent out a text that there's no limit on packs, and then another text that Canada and UK are open for shipping. Sales are clearly not meeting expectations.
bodhipop
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Really helping out the community when times are rough! Probably trying to cover his payment processing fee and take advantage of stimulus.
Northeastbudz
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You mean trying to take advantage of the community
CaliWorthington
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I popped 5 of 12 Archive Rocket Fuel seeds and got 1 male. All 5 plants are pretty consistent looking, so I'm gonna collect pollen and save it for some worthy females. I love naming strains. Wedding Cake x Rocket Fuel= Shotgun Wedding.
CaliWorthington
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Well the thing is that it's backwards, usually feminized seeds cost more. $300 for this regs release kinda doesn't make sense.
bodhipop
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Right. Many of us remember how he talked to the whole RIU community in his own thread.
poundofyourfinest
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Maybe the regs are more because people can use the pollen to make their own line? Just a thought, 300 a pack is out of my league
CaliWorthington
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I was thinking that too, but this is already like a perfect cross (according to the description). I'm pretty sure I paid $250 for a pack of the Dosidos F2 #22 regs when they first came out. I swear I'm gonna pop those soon!
poundofyourfinest
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Yeah I like the belts a lot it leaves it’s sent in my grinder for days
bigbongloads
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It took longer to sell out because there was 5x as many available as ogkb drop. He mentioned it on ig. I got mine and it’s sold out now. Plan to take them to f2. Price was higher than the fem release because there was a couple more generations of selections made if you were paying attention.
waterproof808
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regs are worth more because you can breed with males and line breed with it much easier.
CaliWorthington
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That makes sense. I read the description but was never familiar with the original strain in the first place. It's a good looking strain for sure, good luck with it!
CaliWorthington
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But fems almost always sell for more.
Cannacal04
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I'm hoping a pack of that or the dark rainbow is hanging around still this week when i get paid, shipping to canada and UK they say hoping i can grab a few things
waterproof808
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Not really, The most high end packs are always regs.
CaliWorthington
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That's not my experience. InHouse regs are way cheaper than their fems, for example. Everything on Attitude seedbank is like that too.
LeftOurEyes
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I understand a lot of breeders don't make fems. Most breeders that sell fems and regs charge more for the fems though, or at least give you less of them for the same price, which then makes them cost more per seed. He wasn't arguing that the best seeds were fem or reg, just usually fems cost more. The breeders logic being 50% of regs on average will be male and with fem you don't have to hunt through them.
CaliWorthington
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I heard 90% of seeds sold in Europe are fems. Some people just don't like planting males and pulling them out for nothing. So, the convenience of feminized seeds usually costs more. Some breeders probably make their own colloidal silver to reverse females and get fem pollen, but others buy it. I always figured that cost, and the effort to do the reversal was passed along to the consumer.
originalphenohunters
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The reason most breeders charge more for fems is because timing the reversal/having enough stored pollen is harder than letting a male blow, typically. The second reason is they know that the uninformed custies and those wanting convenience will want fem seeds. They therefore will be able to sell more overpriced packs of, in most cases, lines with much less work put in than their m/f counterpart. MOst customers nowadays think they want fems due to many years of misrepresentation/misinfo by the seed market/breeders to steer people towards fem seeds so that the customer can't reproduce easily with it. Which means they will have a fem seed customer for life instead of a once bought and reproduced for themselves customer.
The reason a worked and tested line of 12 seeds of regulars from a real breeder would, and rightly so, be sold for more money is because, IMO,
1. You can reproduce the line (f2 etc) and hybrids yourself without having to do another generations of reversals. (s2 etc prob not best idea for line work)
2. A good breeder would have tested this male line which requires 3 generations of work to sell the original seeds. You have to grow your parents, make the seeds, then grow the seeds to test, then you can release the previous generation. Easy year+ of work.
3. Because the heady boys "think" they want fems, there's going to be less demand overall for regs. Not that this drop had an issue with that, apparently. Because most growers nowadays are too lazy to grow M/F seeds and make superior selections. They just want whatever their homie is supposedly selling for $4800, NOW. (S1's) Which fems are theoretically better at inbreeding a trait faster. which is good and bad... but mostly bad at this point. Odd thing is, the fems nowadays are such inbred clusterfucks that, IME, I'm pretty much only buying regs from now on. Too many issues with people's fems today due to low selection pressure and highly inbred parents. It's all cookie cousin tranny fucking!
The reason a worked and tested line of 12 seeds of regulars from a real breeder would, and rightly so, be sold for more money is because, IMO,
1. You can reproduce the line (f2 etc) and hybrids yourself without having to do another generations of reversals. (s2 etc prob not best idea for line work)
2. A good breeder would have tested this male line which requires 3 generations of work to sell the original seeds. You have to grow your parents, make the seeds, then grow the seeds to test, then you can release the previous generation. Easy year+ of work.
3. Because the heady boys "think" they want fems, there's going to be less demand overall for regs. Not that this drop had an issue with that, apparently. Because most growers nowadays are too lazy to grow M/F seeds and make superior selections. They just want whatever their homie is supposedly selling for $4800, NOW. (S1's) Which fems are theoretically better at inbreeding a trait faster. which is good and bad... but mostly bad at this point. Odd thing is, the fems nowadays are such inbred clusterfucks that, IME, I'm pretty much only buying regs from now on. Too many issues with people's fems today due to low selection pressure and highly inbred parents. It's all cookie cousin tranny fucking!