4k is making my plants look like crap

cobshopgrow

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i have no doubt you bought a timber 400W 4000k light.
curious, how many watts does your T5 deliver?
we may can get a rough relation to the leds.
 

DaFreak

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You can post all of these messages, but you can't take a photo of your light? Total junk. If you were a piece of fruit you would not be worth the squeeze. Best of luck to you sir.
That is 100% correct. I am not going to take a pic to appease somebody acting like a punk by even suggesting something like that. You apparently would not care if somebody asked you to do that and that is sad.

they are the longer 4 feet ones so 54 watts per bulb.
 
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DaFreak

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i have no doubt you bought a timber 400W 4000k light.
curious, how many watts does your T5 deliver?
we may can get a rough relation to the leds.
It's a HO T5 with 8 bulbs so I think that's like 400? They are like 24 watts each? Reason I bought the 4vs was because the T5 is a little overkill for mothers and I love the idea of keeping mothers with it at half power and then being able to increase for vegging.
 

DaFreak

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you don't have a cheap lux meter? dude, they are like 20 bucks.

measure your t5 and replicate it with the 4k. or use this:


my led is about 300 ppfd (17000 lux) 4k high cri for veg.
At 18 inches I am reading 14,000 at 50% and 60,000 at 100% give or take. I want to run this at 50%. With my redwood-vs I use them at 50 to 60% till about to flower when I turn them up over several days till 100%.
 

jonnynobody

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That is 100% correct. I am not going to take a pic to appease somebody acting like a punk by even suggesting something like that. You apparently would not care if somebody asked you to do that and that is sad.
No. I post pictures because I'm not 100% full of shit. When people offer their time to assist me I respect them by posting pictures for clarification so as not to waste their fucking time. Clearly you don't afford others the same courtesy. What a duesche bag.
 

jonnynobody

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hey u better watch out this guy has made MILLIONS from weed !!! by growing whole houses back in Nippon... !!

so we are here only to learn how the Master figures out his lights (again)
:blsmoke:
A whole forum of people willing to help and this tool box can't snap a photo of his hardware. This is the kinda guy that just begs for constant attention. I feel like if he had kids he'd be that sick motherfucker that feeds their kid arsenic or something to keep them constantly sick for the attention. Just saying :)
 

cobshopgrow

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It's a HO T5 with 8 bulbs so I think that's like 400? They are like 24 watts each? Reason I bought the 4vs was because the T5 is a little overkill for mothers and I love the idea of keeping mothers with it at half power and then being able to increase for vegging.
thanks for the info.
8x 24W is 192W and T5 put out max 80 lumen per watt, your timber fixture should be closer to 180 lumen, with a higher ppfd output then the T5 for each watt and less losses due to reflections (more direct light).
i would guess you have a similar ppfd by using the timber fixture at about 100W for veg.
 

DaFreak

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hey u better watch out this guy has made MILLIONS from weed !!! by growing whole houses back in Nippon... !!

so we are here only to learn how the Master figures out his lights (again)
:blsmoke:
Manx when did I ever say shit to you? Yes I did make millions, not very hard to do at all. Yes these are new lights for me, made the switch to led less than a year ago. So other then talking shit why are you in this thread? Not offering advice, not that I believe you have any. And just to piss you off, I’ve made more outside of weed. Sorry that you haven’t if that was your goal.
 

DaFreak

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He’s stepping it up again with 9 4x4 tents going

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Lol, what wrong with tents? I like them, plants don’t have to take over the basement. Never have I once said I grow a lot, even back home in Japan I never was big, most I ever ran at one time was around 4250watts. But $50 per gram, imagine if you totally sucked and got .25 gpw, you’re still talking over 300k a year. The Vietnamese figured it out and came over in the early 2000s and started growing large scale. Unfortunately for them they stick out like a sore thumb and we’re getting busted left and right. They must have been away with even more to make it worth it. But tents are awesome, I’ll be running a whopping 3600 watts.
 

DaFreak

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A whole forum of people willing to help and this tool box can't snap a photo of his hardware. This is the kinda guy that just begs for constant attention. I feel like if he had kids he'd be that sick motherfucker that feeds their kid arsenic or something to keep them constantly sick for the attention. Just saying :)
You’re not willing or able though, and that’s why I told you to move on. If you told me you had a beautiful wife or a Porsche or whatever, I’d take you at your word. Wouldn’t ask for a pic. So you can buzz off.
 

DaFreak

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No. I post pictures because I'm not 100% full of shit. When people offer their time to assist me I respect them by posting pictures for clarification so as not to waste their fucking time. Clearly you don't afford others the same courtesy. What a duesche bag.
What’s wrong stupid? I told you I didn’t want your help? Rejection issues? You said everything worth any value with your first post, nothing but a predictable since.
 

DaFreak

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thanks for the info.
8x 24W is 192W and T5 put out max 80 lumen per watt, your timber fixture should be closer to 180 lumen, with a higher ppfd output then the T5 for each watt and less losses due to reflections (more direct light).
i would guess you have a similar ppfd by using the timber fixture at about 100W for veg.
Yeah that was a mistake, they are the 4 footers so more watts, twice
 

cobshopgrow

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looks like the high output 4 footers are even 54W, while i think cfl get less efficent the longer they become.
overall i think the masured ppfd reading of cfl are real low, refering to the posted example, that had been just a 100ppfd for a 24W at 1inch.

BUT, how could you stuck 4 footers in a 3 by 3 foot tent ?? incl fixture and everything.
 

DaFreak

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Lol, they don’t fit in the tent, they are just hanging from the ceiling. The tent is only for the led light.
 
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