First time coco loco and emerald harvest

[twentyeight.threefive]

This is 100% false. So is "burning"

These folks are just poking fun ...no big deal.
The "norm" (on this forum) is to treat coco as a hydro medium. It works great so they are just sharing.

Organics is hard period. its never as easy as a few amendments and water only. Its ALL a guessing game. When you get it dialed in , its the only way to grow but its damn sure the hardest method.

Pretty much. I'm too stupid to do organic. So much easier to make adjustments with dry salts.

But to get the most potential out of coco you have to treat it as the hydro medium that it is.

 

[getogrow]

Pretty much. I'm too stupid to do organic. So much easier to make adjustments with dry salts.

But to get the most potential out of coco you have to treat it as the hydro medium that it is.

You are right , its WAY easier to make adjustments with dry salts. Thats what makes hydro so easy compared to organics.

But to get the most potential out of coco you have to treat it as the hydro medium that it is.

This is simply not true at all. "The most potential" is going to vary from grower to grower. Organic or salt or both.

 

[getogrow]

Before you try growing with coco again, it's good to get an understanding of soil CEC, and what it means to grow in a low CEC medium vs a high one. This is a good place to start: https://www.icmag.com/forum/marijuana-growing/growing-in-coco-coir/308425-the-chemistry-behind-coco-coir-a-strange-journey-from-ferts-bottle-to-to-buds?t=307683. Getting CEC down will help you grow in any medium. Good luck!

This needs to be read by anyone using coco. Actually anyone growing should read this. This sums up the whole whatever you want to use it for.

Coco is the "new best friend" of hydro guys....well guess what ? Us organic guys have a new best friend too: coco.

 

[Dopesmoka]

This needs to be read by anyone using coco. Actually anyone growing should read this. This sums up the whole whatever you want to use it for.

Coco is the "new best friend" of hydro guys....well guess what ? Us organic guys have a new best friend too: coco.

The only thing I would add is that in coco it’s harder to keep those trace minerals and your probably gonna run into deficiencies when she starts budding

 

[getogrow]

The only thing I would add is that in coco it’s harder to keep those trace minerals and your probably gonna run into deficiencies when she starts budding

Nah , i would never use 100% coco moss for an organic mix. I rely on all the extras to provide all the minerals she needs. Its just great as a replacement for peat moss.
Reading that write up it seems that after you soak in calmag/feed solution , it no longer requires extra ca or mag but would still require regular feedings so just treat it as you would any organic mix.

 

[Dr purps]

C I heard organic we feed the soil then the soil feeds the plants there for the plants takes only what it needs I know u can burn your plants in organic still trust me I burn plants using iguana juice Some organic stuff burns like alfalfa meal fish bone if added to much.organic It is hard my friend my peoples always say why u waste time In Organics so much easier using chems.I don’t sell my work,I’m a Medical user so I want my green clean from chems and plus then to flush 20 plants 3 gallons each plant 3 x of water to flush the chems out it’s a lot of work at least with organic stop giving food the last 2-3 weeks only sugar molasses here and there correct me if I’m wrong gotogrow Its not a good idea to flush organic soils I’m better off just feeding water the last two weeks with molasses

this run I did pretty good using emerald harvest and to flush I used clearex have u ever used clearex

 

[Dr purps]

The only thing I would add is that in coco it’s harder to keep those trace minerals and your probably gonna run into deficiencies when she starts budding

Yes I’m expect that I got my cal-Meg and a spray called optic foiler over grow wicked stuff and it helps the plant from deficiencies that’s was the first thing came to mind was cal-mag the coco don’t supply that its r job to make sure coco has it so what I do or planning to do correct me if I’m doing it wrong is I water feed water cal-mag then feed water and feed water cal-mag keep repeating

 

[Dopesmoka]

Yes I’m expect that I got my cal-Meg and a spray called epic foiler over grow wicked stuff and it helps the plant from deficiencies that’s was the first thing came to mind was cal-mag the coco don’t supply that its r job to make sure coco has it so what I do or planning to do correct me if I’m doing it wrong is I water feed water cal-mag then feed water and feed water cal-mag keep repeating

I’m not really sure because I use dry amendments and I have this powder organic calcium stuff that last about a week or 2 with 1 watering but I never keep up on it

 

[Dr purps]

This needs to be read by anyone using coco. Actually anyone growing should read this. This sums up the whole whatever you want to use it for.

Coco is the "new best friend" of hydro guys....well guess what ? Us organic guys have a new best friend too: coco.

I’m trying to become the best friends with coco right now I’m still learning with coco as u can see

 

[Dopesmoka]

on Amazon it says the optic folier corrects deficiencies but I can’t see what the ingredients are

 

[Dr purps]

I’m not really sure because I use dry amendments and I have this powder organic calcium stuff that last about a week or 2 with 1 watering but I never keep up on it

The reason I cal-mag every third or fourth water is cause emerald harvest don’t add cal to there juice so u have to add it your self even if u search the micro it has no cal in it but has everything else and the cal-mag emerald harvest has
it has kelp meal in it that’s another reason why I use the cal Mag for the kelp

on Amazon it says the optic folier corrects deficiencies but I can’t see what the ingredients are

ill send u a picture it also has kelp meal and stuff

 

[Dr purps]

on Amazon it says the optic folier corrects deficiencies but I can’t see what the ingredients are

I just got home and here your picture and it doesn’t have kelp meal thought it did for some reason my bad

 

[Dr purps]

Lights r on so does these plants look like shit to you guys these r all low self train I still have to pluck some leaves saving that for next week then putting them in flower gotogrow I’ll keep u posted

 

[Dopesmoka]

Lights r on so does these plants look like shit to you guys these r all low self train I still have to pluck some leaves saving that for next week then putting them in flower gotogrow I’ll keep u posted

Nah your good either I’m tripping or is all your tops starting to yellow? And that spray isn’t gonna do much it’s basically phosphorus but that Rock dust should be enough with whatever you use for the npk and whatever you see missing just add that

 

[Dr purps]

Nah your good either I’m tripping or is all your tops starting to yellow? And that spray isn’t gonna do much it’s basically phosphorus but that Rock dust should be enough with whatever you use for the npk and whatever you see missing just add that

Some of them did that’s why I bent them I have no choice to supercrop them or monster crop how ever it’s pronounced before putting them to flower my last harvest took a lil longer then what I expected some of the girls grew a lil to big then I transplanted got even bigger I had to Bend them far from the lights I’m running 2 1000 at 75% for now untill I open my ac u it then flower them um I added the rock phosphate into the coco same company Gaia but it come with molasses the yellow u c it’s the angel Im taking the picture u scared me man I ran to go check on them I pulled them out it’s all green as for that spray it really work I have a friend Bennit give a gorilla breath and it was bad really bad and I took it to prove to him that if u know what u r doing u can fix it i transplant it into a so called one gallon pot added some worm castings Gaia green 4-4-4 a lil other stuff to watered with seaweed and bio marine and pure blend Tea and spayed it a few times she came back paying In a week or so she was already growing new leaves I’m not saying it works for everything but I do know it works and it also good to spray your clones when your cloning helps them from turning yellow I seen really bad plants and that sprayed help try it it only 20 bucks and u c if u don’t like it don’t bother with it it helps I’m organic cal-mag is one of my biggest problems at first when I started I thought it need more food or I had enough food and made it worse because I wouldn’t . water with food cal-mag got worse plant yellowed up even more that made it worse I’m pulling my hair I wanna give up then Thank god now I know it’s cal-mag but it that sprayed helped me when I didn’t know about the cal-mag issue the reason I found out was cause I grabbed a few leaves went to the hydro store wtf happening to my girl he told me it’s cal -mag your organic and he made me buy 5 different things for cal-mag I was new so don’t laugh it’s not funny

 

[Dopesmoka]

Some of them did that’s why I bent them I have no choice to supercrop them or monster crop how ever it’s pronounced before putting them to flower my last harvest took a lil longer then what I expected some of the girls grew a lil to big then I transplanted got even bigger I had to Bend them far from the lights I’m running 2 1000 at 75% for now untill I open my ac u it then flower them um I added the rock phosphate into the coco same company Gaia but it come with molasses the yellow u c it’s the angel Im taking the picture u scared me man I ran to go check on them I pulled them out it’s all green as for that spray it really work I have a friend Bennit give a gorilla breath and it was bad really bad and I took it to prove to him that if u know what u r doing u can fix it i transplant it into a so called one gallon pot added some worm castings Gaia green 4-4-4 a lil other stuff to watered with seaweed and bio marine and pure blend Tea and spayed it a few times she came back paying In a week or so she was already growing new leaves I’m not saying it works for everything but I do know it works and it also good to spray your clones when your cloning helps them from turning yellow I seen really bad plants and that sprayed help try it it only 20 bucks and u c if u don’t like it don’t bother with it it helps I’m organic cal-mag is one of my biggest problems at first when I started I thought it need more food or I had enough food and made it worse because I wouldn’t . water with food cal-mag got worse plant yellowed up even more that made it worse I’m pulling my hair I wanna give up then Thank god now I know it’s cal-mag but it that sprayed helped me when I didn’t know about the cal-mag issue the reason I found out was cause I grabbed a few leaves went to the hydro store wtf happening to my girl he told me it’s cal -mag your organic and he made me buy 5 different things for cal-mag I was new so don’t laugh it’s not funny

There’s just not much calcium in the spray but my last harvest I had a girl suffer bad from calcium deficiency around week 4 but she still ended up being some rope and yielded about 100 and something grams in a 5 gallon pot

 

[Dopesmoka]

Some of them did that’s why I bent them I have no choice to supercrop them or monster crop how ever it’s pronounced before putting them to flower my last harvest took a lil longer then what I expected some of the girls grew a lil to big then I transplanted got even bigger I had to Bend them far from the lights I’m running 2 1000 at 75% for now untill I open my ac u it then flower them um I added the rock phosphate into the coco same company Gaia but it come with molasses the yellow u c it’s the angel Im taking the picture u scared me man I ran to go check on them I pulled them out it’s all green as for that spray it really work I have a friend Bennit give a gorilla breath and it was bad really bad and I took it to prove to him that if u know what u r doing u can fix it i transplant it into a so called one gallon pot added some worm castings Gaia green 4-4-4 a lil other stuff to watered with seaweed and bio marine and pure blend Tea and spayed it a few times she came back paying In a week or so she was already growing new leaves I’m not saying it works for everything but I do know it works and it also good to spray your clones when your cloning helps them from turning yellow I seen really bad plants and that sprayed help try it it only 20 bucks and u c if u don’t like it don’t bother with it it helps I’m organic cal-mag is one of my biggest problems at first when I started I thought it need more food or I had enough food and made it worse because I wouldn’t . water with food cal-mag got worse plant yellowed up even more that made it worse I’m pulling my hair I wanna give up then Thank god now I know it’s cal-mag but it that sprayed helped me when I didn’t know about the cal-mag issue the reason I found out was cause I grabbed a few leaves went to the hydro store wtf happening to my girl he told me it’s cal -mag your organic and he made me buy 5 different things for cal-mag I was new so don’t laugh it’s not funny

They look good when are you flipping ?

 

[Dr purps]

There’s just not much calcium in the spray but my last harvest I had a girl suffer bad from calcium deficiency around week 4 but she still ended up being some rope and yielded about 100 and something grams in a 5 gallon pot

She still looks nice u still showed her love and she came back strong all it matters I had plants look like greens a lil extra care she came back cause I’m a type of guy if my friend going to throw out a plant I at least try to bring it back to life sometimes it doesn’t come back point is learning

 

[Dr purps]

They look good when are you flipping ?

Next weekend..... I just wanna do a big clean up spray bug spray wash them down clean all the tools I use cause my last grow I bred the wedding cake with blue cheese sour and the bubble gum with the wedding cake and the blue cheese sour calling it blue cheese sour gum I also did god bud 2.0 with fruiity pebbles og bubble wedding cake girlscout cookies from bc bud with serious seeds bubble gum pebbles with bubble gum i made all kinds of strains to help out all my friends this summer and for my self of course I have to clean left over pollen might fuck up my girls ain’t taking that chance I made a list I’ll show u tomorrow if your interested in some I’ll get them on your hands some how just shit keep shutting down cause of covid

 

[Dr purps]

They look good when are you flipping ?

So I know I ain’t talking shit I just told u about the plants the look like greens look at the first two pictures then the last two a lil bit of love and caring she always comes back