New School vs old school strains

[Rurumo]

Most of these new polyhybrids that "breeders" slap together lack the character that some of these old strains had. There really isn't much actual breeding going on anymore, with a few notable exceptions. Sure, they're potent...if you take two "elite" clones and breed them, you're likely to end up with potent offspring, but few people actually select for traits or take the time to create a strain and stabilize it. There is just too much money to make with thoughtless polyhybrid combos at $100+ per pack. Most of these new strains have this generic couchlock high that seems to have become the holy grail of an entire generation of smokers. And what's worse, there is almost no money in preserving the landrace gene pool, which is a tragedy.

 

[Hawg Wild]

Most of these new polyhybrids that "breeders" slap together lack the character that some of these old strains had. There really isn't much actual breeding going on anymore, with a few notable exceptions. Sure, they're potent...if you take two "elite" clones and breed them, you're likely to end up with potent offspring, but few people actually select for traits or take the time to create a strain and stabilize it. There is just too much money to make with thoughtless polyhybrid combos at $100+ per pack. Most of these new strains have this generic couchlock high that seems to have become the holy grail of an entire generation of smokers. And what's worse, there is almost no money in preserving the landrace gene pool, which is a tragedy.

Exactly. A lot of my favorite smoke has always been larfy-ass foxtail sativa stuff with a lot of landrace Colombian, African, and/or SE Asian genetics and no bag appeal. A lot of years were spent chasing ever higher THC% numbers, pretty colors, and dense golfball nugs to get us where we are now, but at the expense of most younger growers/smokers ever experiencing a true cerebral pure "sativa" high or having to grow a strain that takes 16 weeks from the flip to start finishing.

 

[PJ Diaz]

I was gifted these. Might pop some this summer..

 

[Rurumo]

I was gifted these. Might pop some this summer..

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You should! Pretty much the parent strain of every fruity flavor in cannabis

Exactly. A lot of my favorite smoke has always been larfy-ass foxtail sativa stuff with a lot of landrace Colombian, African, and/or SE Asian genetics and no bag appeal. A lot of years were spent chasing ever higher THC% numbers, pretty colors, and dense golfball nugs to get us where we are now, but at the expense of most younger growers/smokers ever experiencing a true cerebral pure "sativa" high or having to grow a strain that takes 16 weeks from the flip to start finishing.

There was another recent thread here about why these newer strains don't make people laugh their asses off like they remember strains doing years ago. No guys, it wasn't because you "outgrew" it, it's because of what you're smoking. I notice I get this effect reliably from certain landrace sativas and some of the older hybrids, especially Ak47 and Warlock. So much more actual breeding and selection went into creating the famous 90s hybrids, I think most younger smokers would be surprised if they actually tried them.

I've had this exact discussion with my millennial smoker cousin who loves the FOTM polyhybrid "fire" strains. After smoking him out with some of my favorite old hybrids from Serious, and some killer Malawi from Ace, he's a convert. The Malawi had him tripping balls, it was hilarious.

 

[cherrybobeddie]

He might have made the recipe more recently but the ingredients can be considered oldschool if the tale is correct. Maybe cherrybobeddie confused the BB with another one of the building block strains in the comment above?

My memory is not perfect, but I do remember DJ Short being on that panel. I don't know if BB is a vintage strain, but perhaps it was included for the reason that so many varieties have BB in their makeup.

 

[cherrybobeddie]

You should! Pretty much the parent strain of every fruity flavor in cannabis

There was another recent thread here about why these newer strains don't make people laugh their asses off like they remember strains doing years ago. No guys, it wasn't because you "outgrew" it, it's because of what you're smoking. I notice I get this effect reliably from certain landrace sativas and some of the older hybrids, especially Ak47 and Warlock. So much more actual breeding and selection went into creating the famous 90s hybrids, I think most younger smokers would be surprised if they actually tried them.

I've had this exact discussion with my millennial smoker cousin who loves the FOTM polyhybrid "fire" strains. After smoking him out with some of my favorite old hybrids from Serious, and some killer Malawi from Ace, he's a convert. The Malawi had him tripping balls, it was hilarious.

Is AK- 47 considered an old variety? The first I heard of it was from some friends who came back from Amsterdam. I don't remember the year. Late '80s? Northern Lights is from late 70's I think.

 

[OSBuds]

https://www.calgarycmmc.com/E-books/Big%20Book%20of%20Buds.pdf

 

[Oneseedorganics]

Is AK- 47 considered an old variety? The first I heard of it was from some friends who came back from Amsterdam. I don't remember the year. Late '80s? Northern Lights is from late 70's I think.

I would personally consider both of those to he vintage strains at this point

 

[Hawg Wild]

https://www.calgarycmmc.com/E-books/Big%20Book%20of%20Buds.pdf

I had the first four of these at one time. Sold them on Amazon when I was getting rid of a bunch of books. Kind of neat but they're basically just seed company advertising from the time.

 

[Oneseedorganics]

I was gifted these. Might pop some this summer..

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DO IT

 

[skuba]

Wasn't blueberry a spin off from original skunk?

I’m pretty sure it was from two Thais and an Afghan

 

[TugthePup]

I was gifted these. Might pop some this summer..

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Open pollination?

 

[OSBuds]

Northern Lights

Originally named "NORTHERN LITES" by Seattle Greg.

Episode 1 – Seattle Greg | Breeders Syndicate Podcast

On Episode 1 of Breeders Syndicate: The Matthew Riot Podcast, Seattle Greg joins host Matthew Riot too shed light on the secret history involved with breeding one of the most iconic strains in the world: Northern Lites/Lights. This exclusive interview is proudly presented by Speakeasy.

breederssyndicate.com

 

[Shua1991]

I miss Columbian redbud and Acapulco gold.

Go for chelumbian by Norstar, or his "Golden Child", I had good results from chelumbian and its hybrids. Nice 3+ hour upbeat motivational type highs, good yield and mold resistance too, if you want the real deal 13-15 week sativa then Ace seeds "Panama" is the landrace you want, ultra speedy/heady rollercoaster weed.

 

[SFnone]

I'm in the older strains and landrace camp. Overall, they seem to do it better than the genetically watered down hybrids of today. Good Haze beats everything. And after smoking some ILE Balochistan 4 buds that have little trichome volume and overall look like trash, and getting higher off of them than i do most modern mega frosty strains, I'm convinced there's more to a good high than just high thc, and that insane frost and thc percentages don't necessarily mean shit. To each their own, but gotta grow em all before you can really know.

Edit: I think "new vs old" is the wrong way to think of it though. Some are great, others aren't, regardless of age or time. Just like good music or paintings. Old can be good, new can be good. With a bunch of duds in between.

 

[MyBallzItch]

I remember people talking this same crap in 1999. Old heads would hit the "Florida OG" and almost pass out but then say "it's just not as good as the old Thai sticks we used to get. You know what a Thai stick is boy?"

Weeds gotten "better". You can still find sativa's etc but people wanna smoke a little after work and get fucked up.. like the whole world