Ayokiwi717
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Which is the better? I know great white costs more, but not everything that costs more is better. What do you guys recomend.
Xtreme gardening or great white
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Rurumo
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Look at the cfu/gram for the rhizobacteria and the propagules/gram for the mycorrhizae. Honestly either is fine-but both are pretty "watered down." Dynomyco has the two strains of mycos that cannabis is actually known to use AND has the highest propagule count on the market afaik. Real Growers Recharge is a good product too for someone just getting into this kind of thing. Be sure you sprinkle any myco product directly on the roots at transplant. Photosynthesis plus is one of my favorite products of this type, though I always use a dry myco product at transplant. Soil blast has high rhizobacteria counts, has trichoderma, and is cheap.
Ayokiwi717
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Yep, will do. Idk about the ones you listed, never heard of them, guess I will have to look them up
710slickxx
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Ive read of people using both but i think its more of a platform thing... GW for hydro setups and xtreme for organic
Lordhooha
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Recharge is a very well made product
OSBuds
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I first used Great White Mycos, since I am on a budget I buy the Xtreme Gardening Mycos in Bulk from E-bay.
It is way cheaper and works just as good. I now put my Xtreme Gardening Mycos in the Great White jar for easy dipping.
It is way cheaper and works just as good. I now put my Xtreme Gardening Mycos in the Great White jar for easy dipping.
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NewGrower2011
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I've pretty much used Xtreme Gardening Mykos (both granular at transplant and the the WP wettable powder afterwards). I like that they offer the Azos to complement it as well. I currently use both.
I'm also a fan of not using just 1 but multiple throughout the grow. I'll use Recharge occasionally as it provides multiple things but I also use PhotoSynthesis + for both soil drench and foliar. When I go into flower I've used MammothP but this last time I tried Tribus. Diversity can't hurt IMO. I've also became a fan of using Activated EM1 in my SIPs to deal with the anaerobic conditions.
Also I've seen some advice against including Trichoderma in some cases/some of the cycle (forget the reason) - so I like when things are separate so I can use only what is desired, when desired.
I'm also a fan of not using just 1 but multiple throughout the grow. I'll use Recharge occasionally as it provides multiple things but I also use PhotoSynthesis + for both soil drench and foliar. When I go into flower I've used MammothP but this last time I tried Tribus. Diversity can't hurt IMO. I've also became a fan of using Activated EM1 in my SIPs to deal with the anaerobic conditions.
Also I've seen some advice against including Trichoderma in some cases/some of the cycle (forget the reason) - so I like when things are separate so I can use only what is desired, when desired.
I saw the exact opposite great white was like 2.5 times the size.
If great white gave 3x the yields it would historically be the biggest thing to have ever happened to the Gardening industry let alone Cannabis.
Absolutely just saying the test I saw that sounded similar to yours he got at least 2-2.5 times the growth.
It's likely some other factors or completely faked but the test is there and that's what happened.
SnoopyDoo
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Great, that proves nothing. I use Great White because it keeps the soil healthy and crowds out bad guys like fusarium. Certain bacteria's attack insects. It also stabilizes my media's PH. Lastly the beni's break down the organics that go into my nutes (Kelp, Molasses, etc). I don't think anybody here is claiming a big boost in yields. And of course beni's wouldn't even be compatible with some grows; some grows/grower shoot for a sterile root zone.
I also use Great White in cloning blocks - definitely makes a difference. Not that Great White is some sort of secret sauce, since I've gotten the same results using other beneficial lines for cloning.
budman111
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Why not use a peroxide at a fraction of the cost?
67,000 Endo & 1.5 billion Ecto Propagules per lb.....great white
1.5 teaspoons of compost has 1.5 billion microbes equal to 1 pound of great white. At 1 teaspoon per 2 gallons great white provides 15.6 million microbes
Its why in a real grow you really notice no improvements.
You feel you do because you spent the money you are emotionally invested
but in reality all you have done was add the equivalent to 1 pinch of compost when your mix is already 30% of compost if you happen to be in a 5 gallon bucket that is literally OVER 1 trillion microbes. Adding 1.5 billion for $30 over the course of a grow contributes to .5% of the microbes in your container and this is if you use the entire 1 pound tub, when a teaspoon of castings would essentially be the same thing.
If you make feed with teas and or top dress with castings which have on average by weight more microbes than regular compost the amount of microbes begins to become unquantifiable a tea spoon of great white is minuscular and would make no noticeable difference.
you want to notice a difference in cloning get a cloner ready to plant in 7 days plain water.
Its all been talked about here, the conclusion people love stickers.
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