Will You Take The Vaccine?

[RioBlazeLotaMota]

"and soon it will just go away" If Trump hadn't killed 400,000 with his lies and distortions, I'd laugh.

The entire state of California is doing pretty good. Your governor was so tough on the virus, he triggered a recall movement. Good for him.

It didn't "go away last year. What happens is people see the spike in cases, they tighten up their practicing of social distancing and then when it gets better, they loosen up and the virus gorges again. Just like what happened in June and July of '20. What you propose is an endless cycle of death. Your industry will die if that keeps up.

Your hesitancy is understandable, given your issues with allergies. What is not understandable is why you are hooked on the idea that the CDC is wrong and your shitty little newsletters and gossip circles are selling you good information.


Your industry can't reopen until the epidemic is over. You can deny it all you want, stage hand, but there aren't going to BE any large venues until

Very well said, but you cannot change the mind of the uninformed. I think Darwin’s natural selection is a great teacher to the ill informed.
Live long, light up, good luck, you will need it plus 2 masks.

 

[Fogdog]

Ron De Santis is in denial too.

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Florida sues CDC to allow cruises to resume U.S. sailings, industry pushes for better treatment
PUBLISHED THU, APR 8 20212:06 PM EDTUPDATED THU, APR 8 20212:55 PM EDT
Katie Tsai

KEY POINTS

• Florida Governor Ron DeSantis announced on Thursday that the state will be filing a lawsuit against the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, demanding cruise ships be allowed to resume sailing immediately.
• Royal Caribbean announced Thursday that they will be extending the suspension of some of its trips leaving from U.S. ports.
• Disney Cruise Line will also be further suspending its U.S. trips through June.

It's so sad. People need to work but won't take actions necessary to open this economy back up. The Cruise Ship industry can't recover from the epidemic until the epidemic is over. What about that statement is so hard for people to understand?

 

[Fogdog]

Very well said, but you cannot change the mind of the uninformed. I think Darwin’s natural selection is a great teacher to the ill informed.
Live long, light up, good luck, you will need it plus 2 masks.

The information is there. What Diaz is doing is called doubling down. When confronted with solid evidence that the vaccine is safe and effective, he doubles down on his position by saying "it will just go away". It's ludicrous, of course, but his behavior is well documented among conservative, authoritarian types. Pretty soon, he's going to start quoting Qanon beliefs.

 

[StonedGardener]

Well MMA is a different breed,and I would say there is a lot more to worry about in that game,the main thing in that sport is your gas tank,fatigue makes cowards of men is a very true statement,out of gas out of fight. I,m familiar w/it as I trained some when I was younger,the ground fighting can be boring , the strategy and skill required to pull off some techniques are very subtle to the uninitiated eye. And adding rounds has kind of ruined it IMO. Wish boxing had the charasmatic fighters from the past though, 50's through 80's were the golden years IMO, some of the B/W footage of fights from 50's are absolutely classic so much talent all at the same time, incredible 15 round bouts.ccguns

I realize that these fighters are highly trained, skilled technicians with finesse......it's just I prefer straight up boxing......an old fan of the Marquees of Queensbury.....I like the fighters skill set, the focus of attack and defense with fists...just fists. I really miss many of those classic boxers of the 60'-70's-80's........,,,Ali-Frazier( I know a cliche, but transcendental)...Boom Boom was no pussy........remember Jerry Quarry......the Tyson fights certainly drew my attention.....Sugar Ray and Duran rival..........Sinks beats Ali, what a night.....took 20/1 bet on Spinks....PISSED a lot of people off.....,they still are.......and of course Marvin, #1 ranked best boxer of 80's. I better put this bong down for a couple of minutes Ya got me going.........

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

Probably not going to happen if the epidemic is still with us. The CDC says we need between 75% and 85% of the population vaccinated before that's even possible.

You don't mind your industry dies, do you?

With the new more contagious variants the percentage of the population requiring immunization will increase in lock step the R0, the higher the R0, the higher the vaccination rate until we can all go mooow. Even if in America Canada and Mexico we are covered over 80%, what about the rest of the world? International travel is popular these days and borders will be completely porous to covid when travel resumes in earnest.

 

[Fogdog]

With the new more contagious variants the percentage of the population requiring immunization will increase in lock step the R0, the higher the R0, the higher the vaccination rate until we can all go mooow. Even if in America Canada and Mexico we are covered over 80%, what about the rest of the world? International travel is popular these days and borders will be completely porous to covid when travel resumes in earnest.

Not wanting to put the cart before the horse, how about if we first get Canada, US and Mexico on the path toward 80+% before tackling Afghanistan and Somalia?

I still worry about the true effectiveness of Sinovac. But we have a long way to go before our own neck of the woods is covered.

You know that old saying that starts with, "how do you eat an elephant"?

 

[Fogdog]

"It's just going to go away" If wishes were fishes, nobody would go hungry.


Countries worldwide hit new records for virus cases, deaths



Nations around the world set new records Thursday for COVID-19 deaths and new coronavirus infections, and the disease surged even in some countries that have kept the virus in check. In the United States, Detroit leaders began making a plan to knock on every door to persuade people to get shots.

Brazil this week became just the third country, after the U.S. and Peru, to report a 24-hour tally of COVID-19 deaths that exceeded 4,000. India hit a peak of almost 127,000 new cases in 24 hours, and Iran set a new coronavirus infection record for the third straight day, reporting nearly 22,600 new cases.

Countries worldwide hit new records for virus cases, deaths

Nations around the world set new records Thursday for COVID-19 deaths and new coronavirus infections, and the disease surged even in some countries that have kept the virus in check. In the United...

apnews.com

One of the outcomes from this epidemic is the stark realization that there are a whole lot of ignorant people in this world who show no ability to learn.

 

[TacoMac]

I realize that these fighters are highly trained, skilled technicians with finesse......it's just I prefer straight up boxing......an old fan of the Marquees of Queensbury.....I like the fighters skill set, the focus of attack and defense with fists...just fists. I really miss many of those classic boxers of the 60'-70's-80's........,,,Ali-Frazier( I know a cliche, but transcendental)...Boom Boom was no pussy........remember Jerry Quarry......the Tyson fights certainly drew my attention.....Sugar Ray and Duran rival..........Sinks beats Ali, what a night.....took 20/1 bet on Spinks....PISSED a lot of people off.....,they still are.......and of course Marvin, #1 ranked best boxer of 80's. I better put this bong down for a couple of minutes Ya got me going.........

Wow.

Try some simple punctuation rather than over a dozen incorrect ellipses. You'll look less the idiot Russian troll that you obviously are.

 

[schuylaar]

"and soon it will just go away" If Trump hadn't killed 400,000 with his lies and distortions, I'd laugh.

The entire state of California is doing pretty good. Your governor was so tough on the virus, he triggered a recall movement. Good for him.

It didn't "go away last year. What happens is people see the spike in cases, they tighten up their practicing of social distancing and then when it gets better, they loosen up and the virus gorges again. Just like what happened in June and July of '20. What you propose is an endless cycle of death. Your industry will die if that keeps up.

Your hesitancy is understandable, given your issues with allergies. What is not understandable is why you are hooked on the idea that the CDC is wrong and your shitty little newsletters and gossip circles are selling you good information.


Your industry can't reopen until the epidemic is over. You can deny it all you want, stage hand, but there aren't going to BE any large venues until

ummmmmmmmm that was for those French Laundry reservations

some people are so testy.

 

[StonedGardener]

Wow.

Try some simple punctuation rather than over a dozen incorrect ellipses. You'll look less the idiot Russian troll that you obviously are.

Eat my shorts

 

[StonedGardener]

Ya pitiful obloquious miscreant........why do you display your imbecilities to all of these nice people at Rollitup?

 

[TacoMac]

Care to try that again in English, comrade?

 

[printer]

Care to try that again in English, comrade?

Because you know, no real person talks like that.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

Not wanting to put the cart before the horse, how about if we first get Canada, US and Mexico on the path toward 80+% before tackling Afghanistan and Somalia?

I still worry about the true effectiveness of Sinovac. But we have a long way to go before our own neck of the woods is covered.

You know that old saying that starts with, "how do you eat an elephant"?

By July we are gonna be drowning in vaccine supplies (you guys before us) as the orders come in and others are approved, though now that they have some winners, additional approvals might take a little longer. The only ones who won't be protected by fall are kids and of course the usual suspects, studies might be completed by then so kids can be protected too. We could end up in a situation that for the vaccinated, covid might end up like the flu, with new variants that won't be that serious to the protected, the unprotected are another story. I don't think that will be the case though, these vaccines and future boosters should stop it in it's tracks, eventually. This virus does not mutate that much, or quickly, compared to other respiratory viruses it is a rock of stability.

 

[tangerinegreen555]

Well, I got both Pfizer shots. The 2nd was 3 days ago.

Zero side effects other than a sore arm which you probably should have after it gets impaled with a metal sliver.

So now that I have the mRNA vac, and since half these Trump dickheads don't want theirs...

Do you think it's OK if I get the J&J more traditional style vac in July maybe?

I hate to see it go to waste and that could be the perfect double coverage. I heard Dr. Fauci say you couldn't OD on it. I also heard a nurse say booster shots may be in the future depending on how things go the rest of the year.

 

[1212ham]

Yeah, well that guy is an idiot, and whatever he said was a year ago. We are at a different point now. Here's the curve for my county, which shows a steady decline since around Jan 15th..

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It also shows a decline last summer.... followed the surge.
The US had 3 declines..... all followed by surges.

 

[PJ Diaz]

Your hesitancy is understandable, given your issues with allergies. What is not understandable is why you are hooked on the idea that the CDC is wrong and your shitty little newsletters and gossip circles are selling you good information.

I don't know what you're talking about. I posted screen shots from the CDC website. I didn't post any other links, so not sure what you're on about. Maybe you are confused.

 

[PJ Diaz]

Says the person who believes the virus is "just going to go away".

After Trump said that, 500,000 people died. Maybe you should listen to Dr Fauci instead.

Except that I didn't say that at all. I said "The good news is that covid has been on a stead decline since mid-January, even before vaccines began to roll out. "

 

[PJ Diaz]

The information is there. What Diaz is doing is called doubling down. When confronted with solid evidence that the vaccine is safe and effective, he doubles down on his position by saying "it will just go away". It's ludicrous, of course, but his behavior is well documented among conservative, authoritarian types. Pretty soon, he's going to start quoting Qanon beliefs.

Show me where I said it would go away. You are misquoting me. Stop lying.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

Well, I got both Pfizer shots. The 2nd was 3 days ago.

Zero side effects other than a sore arm which you probably should have after it gets impaled with a metal sliver.

So now that I have the mRNA vac, and since half these Trump dickheads don't want theirs...

Do you think it's OK if I get the J&J more traditional style vac in July maybe?

I hate to see it go to waste and that could be the perfect double coverage. I heard Dr. Fauci say you couldn't OD on it. I also heard a nurse say booster shots may be in the future depending on how things go the rest of the year.

I don't think that would be necessary, especially if you got an mRNA vaccine, talk to your doc, but I have a feeling he/she would not approve!