RAW NPK nutrients

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jimihendrix1

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We use
Calcium Nitrate.. 15.5-0-0
4-20-39
Epsom Salts.
PPM depends on stage.
In Promix BX we use small doses every watering.
After mixing ratio is basically 1-1-2. Weed likes 2x more Potassium vs either N-or Phosphorus.
We give a boost of MPK in weeks 2.5-4 in an 8 weeks flowering strain, and an Epsom Salts boost week 5-6, and reduce 50% until finish.
 
stickyfly

stickyfly

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Just mixed up my first batch of Week 1 & 2 veg nutes and holy cow I am already liking what I see. Followed the portions to the T and my ppm is sitting perfectly at 354 with a 6.2 PH. I do need to add 0.06g of Enzymes but that shouldn't change things much. Hard to see how well things are mixing in the jug but the small test I poured into a shot glass was fully dissolved.
 
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Audiofilet

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xtsho said:
That's highway robbery. Those markups are insane. All of those can be purchased from many places for much less. I really hate to be critical especially since it's an Oregon company and I'm a native Oregonian and will go out of my way to defend Oregon companies. But not this time. I can't believe people pay that. 2400% markup. Insane.

Here's what you can buy any of those in water soluble form from several hydro nutrient companies online. Same stuff. Just different package.

The nitrogen = ammonium sulfate $5 lb.

The phosphorus = mono ammonium phosphate $7 lb

The potassium = potassium sulfate $7 lb.
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So true. They buy in bulk for even cheaper, just repack, put a fancy label on and charge those who don't know a fortune. Always the same in the cannabis ripoff industry. For example the Greenhouse Seed Co powder feeding fertilizers. Common premixed fertilizer salts as you can get it from almost every big agro fertilizer company (12-6-24, 18-12-18 etc.), just repacked, and sold for stellar prices. And then even lying to their customers, saying THEiR "research team" "developed" the formulas. Bla bla here, wild claims there... This is all just marketing bollocks. Just ridiculous. And i always have to laugh when i hear people spending hundreds or even thousands (!) of Dollars per run. I mix my own from Individual salts for 5-10 $, if at all, and at the same time even working better than so-called "cannabis specific" phosphorus overloaden ripoff "nutrient lines".
 
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RonnieB2 said:
tell ya what. Do a side by side. If the silica plant isn't stronger more stress resistant and have closer nodes. Ill pay u for the silica. But also Google the benefits. There's two types. Avoid Potassium based
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Why do you think potassium based silicates should be avoided? I mean, the product with the highest plant available Si is AgSil 16H, which is a potassium silicate. Potassium silicates are widely used in horticulture and there are no studies showing any benefit in using more expensive silicate products. There are also several types, potassium silicate, calcium silicate, orthosilicic acid, diatomaceous earth etc...
 
cobshopgrow

cobshopgrow

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harvey is doing great expalinig stuff, but i would personally go for a more complete nutrient line like megacrop 2 part.
he is of course having some good hints, like amino acids, which i may try in some run mysellf.
 
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RonnieB2

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Raw npk grow. Sprouted March 20th. Using nitrogen, potassium phosphorus humic full up omniA ( vegan nitrogen) vitamin B Silica calmag aminos also have grow and bloom to make my own booster between feeding. Neptune's harvest fish and seaweed emulsion sweet and sticky golden tree growers recharge flowers stacker 1100ppm
 

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jonnynobody

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RonnieB2 said:
No clumping. Bag is a bitch to seal. Feeding schedule on the way. Im using the humic acid, its 57%, silica, nitrogen, phosphate and Potassium
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That feed chart looks like a through and through nightmare designed to maximize profits. Years ago I checked out Raw brand nutrients. Just overpriced elements in a presentable package with a slick marketing campaign that somehow is supposed to justify the exorbitant price. A lot of that crap in their feed chart is completely and wholly unnecessary too. It's basically a company like advanced nutrients running the same bullshit play with dry elements. Too many unnecessary products all sold at a premium. Do they work? For that price they sure as hell better work. Do yourself a favor and grab jack's when that overpriced stock of Raw runs out. I paid $58 for 25# of 5-12-26 shipped to my front door. Another $30 for 25# of calcium nitrate. Another $25 for 25# of epsom salt. 75# of dry fertilizer for a shade over $100 that will last me 3-4 years. Please save yourself some money in the future and leave the Raw products on the shelf where they belong.
 
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RonnieB2 said:
2oz of RAW NPK makes 200 gallons. Thats not bad for 9 dollars
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I go through almost 200 gallons per week. That single element alone would cost me $36/month or $432 per year to run in addition to all the other elements they want you to buy in their feed chart. That's absurdly expensive for basic elements.
 
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RonnieB2

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jonnynobody said:
I go through almost 200 gallons per week. That single element alone would cost me $36/month or $432 per year to run in addition to all the other elements they want you to buy in their feed chart. That's absurdly expensive for basic elements.
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Oh my. Thats huge. You'd be better off with jacks or Athena
 
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