Conservatives programed to trigger at words "Black Lives Matter" by Russian trolls.

Sativied

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Both parties are absolute trash, if you are a bootlicker for either party and your absolute trust in politicians, you need some self reflection..

Sincerely,

A libertarian
Libertarians are just mad there’s a government that tell tells them they can’t touch lil kids.
 

Fogdog

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Pretty sure paying attention to the riots and the insane rhetoric that's being pushed is what turned people off of blm. I loved this website but after getting into politics I realize it's just another liberal cesspit. The deceptive narrative based on complete bullshit will blow up in your faces some day and I hope people see that they've been being played, and I know the same thing could be said about people you oppose because you're living in split realities. Don't let your emotions control you and seek the truth... I try to stay in the middle ground but it's insane shit like this that just pushes me further right, Russian trolls programming people into hating blm is just insane lmao, Blm did that themselves.
triggered
 

hanimmal

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Appropriate indeed. Whether it”s stopped should imo not depend one bit on Putin.
Unfortunenantly last I heard he still has the keys to the Russian government, so until he says stop, I am guessing they will keep it up.

I guess that’s where our positions slightly differ then. Specifically, I think you’re attributing Putin with more power and responsibility than he has. Which wouldn’t necessarily be a bad thing to overdo if it weren’t for the fact that is playing his game. Putin is abusing a weakness that was already there. Stopping him doesn’t fix the weakness. People need to be vaccinated against disinformation regardless of the source, the end of Putin doesn’t mean Americans (or any other targets for that matter) will become any better at separating facts from fiction.
You mistake my saying that a foreign military attacking our citizens has anything to do with some utopia where disinformation is gone. It is just the next necessary step.

His position is more unstable than ever, which is exactly why he moved an army to the borders of Ukraine (not to conquer the world as some like to think). So NATO responds and Putin can fool the Russian population they need a strong leader like him. I read Biden is calling for dialogue. Makes me almost man crush the ol’ man. Might even rub his leg a lil. :lol:
Im not going to pretend to have any inside knowledge of Putin's stability or what people think "Russians" need like they are some unstable breed. They are humans like everyone else, they will figure it out.

Rand Paul is sellout...Mama Jo is where its at lol
Ill bite, whose 'Mama Jo'? Is she some Q cult leader wannabe?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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We are just mad that there is a goverment. I want my government like feminists like their men, barely functioning..
Hey big guberment means helping poor folks and planning the future, education, healthcare, infrastructure and such, black folks might get some though and that is the real problem. America doesn't have time for the luxury of such racist driven stupidity, the rest of the world is moving along, keep up or suffer the consequences.
 

Sativied

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You mistake my saying that a foreign military attacking our citizens has anything to do with some utopia where disinformation is gone. It is just the next necessary step.
First time I’m accused of being an utopist. Maybe I am but I never suggested anything like that. Whatt I’m saying is it won’t fix the weakness that’s already there and therefor not a major gamechanging necessary step to improve the situation as the solution lies internally, not externally. Scapegoating is bad by definition.
 

Sativied

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Im not going to pretend to have any inside knowledge of Putin's stability or what people think "Russians" need like they are some unstable breed. They are humans like everyone else, they will figure it out.
No need to pretend, just listen to experts. It’s a well-known fact Putin’s flexing is a show of power aimed at its own population. Russia 101 really. Erdogan and others frequently copy the same strategy. It’s mainly the US who seems oblivious to it, or worse, it suits their own needs to olay Putin’s game. Pretty sure Biden had a chat with the german minister of defense who has a good understanding of Putin’s game. Which I applaud (the chat that is...).
 
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Fogdog

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We are just mad that there is a goverment. I want my government like feminists like their men, barely functioning..
Stay mad, then.

Libertarians are just tools for Republicans to use and discard when broke.

In 2020, they got 1% of the vote and zero in the EC. lulz You guys are as crazy as the the other authoritarian party that did better but still lost. Or do you think Trump won?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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No need to pretend, just listen to experts. It’s a well-known fact Putin’s flexing is a show of power aimed at its own population. Russia 101 really. Erdogan and others frequently copy the same strategy. It’s mainly the US who seems oblivious to it, or worse, it suits their own needs to olay Putin’s game. Pretty sure Biden had a chat with the german minister of defense who has a good understanding of Putin’s game. Which I applaud (the chat that is...).
Is that why he helped install Trump and had his arm up his ass working his mouth? Or perhaps why they hacked a significant portion of the computers in the US government? Or are running an anti vaccine disinformation campaign against the west? I understand he needs to impress his political base, they are much the same as Trump's base, but with America he succeeded too well with Trump. Retribution will be economic in nature, America will use it's advantages and strengths as Russia did and is still doing. The main victims are the people of both countries, but the Russian population will suffer mightily in a effort to drive them into the streets and keep them there, mostly because there will be no food at home.
 

hanimmal

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First time I’m accused of being an utopist. Maybe I am but I never suggested anything like that. Whatt I’m saying is it won’t fix the weakness that’s already there and therefor not a major gamechanging necessary step to improve the situation as the solution lies internally, not externally. Scapegoating is bad by definition.
When you are being punched, the first step is to stop the person from punching you. The next step can be to self evaluate enough to figure out how you got into a situation you were able to be punched. But trying to figure out what you can do to self improve while being punched is what you are saying we need to do before stopping the person from punching.

I disagree.

No need to pretend, just listen to experts. It’s a well-known fact Putin’s flexing is a show of power aimed at its own population. Russia 101 really. Erdogan and others frequently copy the same strategy. It’s mainly the US who seems oblivious to it, or worse, it suits their own needs to olay Putin’s game. Pretty sure Biden had a chat with the german minister of defense who has a good understanding of Putin’s game. Which I applaud (the chat that is...).
Nah, I don't like to assume I have knowledge when I don't. And I am sure that Putin has all kinds of talking heads out there spinning what he is doing or just flat out lying.

So there is no need for me to pretend, time will tell what comes next if Putin does decide to push his military into an active war with the world. I really hope he doesn't, his people have been through enough and all the money he is wasting trying to play world dictator really could be used to far better effect in their hands I am sure.
 

mooray

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We are just mad that there is a goverment. I want my government like feminists like their men, barely functioning..
The Libertarian party is a scam at best. The ideal society doesn't have any laws, nor even the notion to create law, because everyone is awesome of their own free will. Every law we have represents a failure of people to do what's right by each other, so then it comes down to a simple question: do you think we have too many laws? If you do, then you agree that the people in our society are shit, whether you're aware of it or not, and adding freedom is to remove the constraints that attempted to reign in those shitty people. Admittedly, imperfectly.

Libertarianism sets shitty people free, which is why people like Bezos have a hardon for it, and will do nothing but make the country worse. If you truly seek the ideal society, a society with great people and total freedom, then you achieve that by working on making great people and those great people prove through their actions that these constraints are unnecessary, not by working on some bullshit shortcut where you get to skip ahead to total freedom without having earned it, which is exactly what the Libertarian party wants: meritless reward.

Nobody wants to work for anything anymore, because it's like...too hard and stuff.
 
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hanimmal

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GQP saying how it is a 'slur' to call the 'tens of thousands' (lie) to 'demonstrate peacefully' rioters, then used the "BLM" language to 'but' away his cheering on the idiots that stormed the capital on Jan 6th, before snow flaking about being canceled'.


(Incase anyone wants to hear this little nazi senator)
 

hanimmal

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Not 'BLM', but just radicalization of another privileged white guy into thinking it is ok to call someone 'Buckwheat'.

 

hanimmal

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Full show with this gas lighting conservative.


I decided to check out the first claim about voting fraud 'flipping 100 votes' that is a example he used as to why people should be concerned:

https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-9773239691
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CLAIM: Forensic tests completed on Dominion Voting Systems equipment show that dozens of votes cast for President Donald Trump in Ware County, Georgia, were “switched” or “flipped” to count for Joe Biden, who has been declared the winner in the presidential election.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. A 37-vote difference between the results of an initial vote count and a hand recount in Ware County, Georgia, resulted from a human tabulation error that was quickly flagged and amended, according to Ware County Elections Supervisor Carlos Nelson. There is no evidence for claims that Dominion machines “switched” or “flipped” votes in the 2020 election. A forensic audit of Dominion voting machines used in the 2020 election in Georgia found “no sign of foul play,” according to the Georgia secretary of state’s office.

THE FACTS: Social media users are misrepresenting a minor error in a Georgia county’s initial vote tally as evidence of election fraud, even as local elections officials confirm nothing is awry.

According to Nelson, an election worker made a small tabulation error on election night involving 37 votes out of about 14,000 cast for president in Ware County.

Election officials caught the error during an internal audit, Nelson said. They corrected it during a full hand recount of paper ballots. A machine recount requested by Trump resulted in the same numbers as the hand recount, giving officials confidence in those results.

There was never an issue with the Dominion technology used for vote tabulation, Nelson said. And the 37-vote shift did not influence the election results in Ware County, where Trump won with about 70% of votes.

“There was no vote flipping,” Nelson said. “The system worked like it should.”

However, the advocacy group Voter GA misrepresented that reality in a Dec. 3 press release, saying it had “confirmed the Dominion Democracy Suite 5.5 system” caused 37 votes to be “swapped” from Trump to Biden in Ware County.

Over the weekend, other social media users and conservative websites picked up on the false theory that a Dominion algorithm switched votes to Biden in Ware County.

“37 Trump votes used in the equal sample run had been ‘Switched’ from Trump to Biden,” read one tweet shared 10,000 times. “In actual algorithmic terms this means that a vote for Trump was counted as 87% of a vote and a vote for Biden was counted as 113% of a vote.”

Jody Hice, a Republican congressman from Georgia, also spread the false information, tweeting that a “forensics examination” in Ware County found votes were switched.

“This is one machine in one county in one state,” read the tweet shared more than 17,000 times. “Did this happen elsewhere? We need to know! EXAMINE ALL THE MACHINES!”

In fact, a forensic audit completed on a random sample of Dominion machines in Georgia found “no signs of cyber attacks or election hacking,” according to the Georgia secretary of state’s office.

Voting machines that Ware County used during the 2020 election are secured in storage, according to Nelson, and couldn’t have been accessed for the so-called “test” or “examination” social media users have referenced.

A statement released by the Cybersecurity & Infrastructure Security Agency, a federal agency that oversees U.S. election security, says there’s no truth to claims that any voting system “deleted or lost votes, changed votes, or was in any way compromised” in the 2020 election.

Dominion also denies claims that it somehow used an algorithm to manipulate votes, saying the company’s systems do not support “fractional” or weighted voting, and that it “is technologically impossible to ‘see’ votes being counted in real-time and/or to ‘flip’ them.”

Gabriel Sterling, a top official in the Georgia secretary of state’s office, called Hice’s post “flat out disinformation.”

“Ware County has accounted for all its equipment,” he said in a tweet. “There are no vote flipping machines.”

A spokesperson for Hice did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Also found this:
https://sos.ga.gov/index.php/elections/secretary_of_states_office_debunks_ware_county_voting_machine_story
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hanimmal

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49 minutes this guy really dials into the digital branding (trolling) that this thread is all about.
 
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