Thug pug genetics anyone?

Abstacticism

Abstacticism

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Foxseeds said:
I cloned #12 he was 2 weeks into flower, #6 male was already cloned had preflowers from sexing. Both clones rooted, had to cull #12 cause original plant hermie. Id recommend not using your original male plant, clones are normally more heathy.
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Thank you very much for the specifics. Yes, I have found that the clones are usually more vigorous than the mother.
I am very exited to experiment with male coming now. A new chapter to explore

I understand why you dumped #12 clones, hermies cause allot of problems all round. Very interesting that the plant's mind reverses back to seedling to root. Have you succeeded in cloning a flowering male previously, that didn't Hermie?
I am curious what happens in the mind of the plant once it has finished rooting. Does he go back into flowering mode when the clone is finished rooting or does he go back to vegetative state to developed further?
 
Foxseeds

Foxseeds

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Abstacticism said:
Thank you very much for the specifics. Yes, I have found that the clones are usually more vigorous than the mother.
I am very exited to experiment with male coming now. A new chapter to explore

I understand why you dumped #12 clones, hermies cause allot of problems all round. Very interesting that the plant's mind reverses back to seedling to root. Have you succeeded in cloning a flowering male previously, that didn't Hermie?
I am curious what happens in the mind of the plant once it has finished rooting. Does he go back into flowering mode when the clone is finished rooting or does he go back to vegetative state to developed further?
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Unsure I haven’t cloned any other flowering males. I’d guess after rooting it should go back to veg if you just give them a lot of nitrogen under 6/18-4/20 light their hormones or whatever chemicals tell them to go back into vegetation.

1 garlic male I saw flowered under 6/18, couple pollen sacs not preflowers, was first to show sex 3 weeks before the others. Had to cull him, those males I’d imagine you can’t easily clone.
 
Misterpfffff

Misterpfffff

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I just cloned a flowering Banana OG F3 male and it took him about 2.5 weeks to root, but then only 3-4 days after was already well on the reveg with new branch growth and 3-5 finger leaves. This strain was some of the most vigorous plants I've ever grown though too, popping them about a month after other seeds and they quickly caught up (without suffering from a lot of internode space either, that OG in there is nuts)

Also a Sophiesbreath male that took a little less time to root (2 weeks) but is having more trouble, still the super odd single finger leaves and whanot coming out but without much if any branching.

Bit of rambling lol sorry.
 
Satch12

Satch12

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Got my thug pug x secret society pack from Lucious genetics today. Placed order on May 7th so very speedy shipping - two thumbs up from me! Thanks to this thread for the find!
 
hilltopblazer

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Boss man @BigSco508 may know a thing or two eh? Maybe someone with more T.P. experience will chime in on anything they've dug running. I'd be all ears......Thanks
 
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Moabfighter

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You guys are gonna bury me and that’s ok. I accept that by posting what I’m about to say.

gromer is a dick and a scam. He says he sends his gear to seedbanks for a wholesale under a hundred a pack and gets NO CUT off what the upcharge is? Allegedly. Mocks me asks me if I know business I told him I don’t have a degree but if he’s selling his gear to banks a under a bill a pack and they’re flipping for 300-400 a pack he must not know business either or is stupid. Said something about if I can’t afford them.

He’s unretired now or whatever he says. He was laid up with a broken back letting seed banks make 3-4x profit off his work? Because he was.... retired? These seeds come with gold glitter after you poop? Check gromers meatbreath IG post two days ago and tell me I’m fucked up. I asked him if they’re gonna be a reasonable price now since he’s back in the game or whatever and he blamed the seedbanks on the upcharge. I tagged the seedbanks and terpy act like it’s all good to rip us consumers off when gromer went public and said he sends em to banks under a bill a pack. Hype scam and sucks to see it.

before you flame me read what I wrote and tell me where I’m wrong please.
 
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LaPerlaCraft

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Gotta pay to play. Period. If you can’t get it at the price, don’t buy. Simple as that. The packs were cheaper. But the price goes up for the demand. You could have got them when they were 80. Or maybe not. The market changes. Deal with it. Sorry not sorry. Buy packs at what you can afford. Like the stock market. Prices go up and prices go down. Don’t be a salty player. I’ve paid good money for thug pug gear and I’ve had good luck with it. I dunno... until you start you’re own business off of it, you really don’t understand it I guess.
 
LeftOurEyes

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Moabfighter said:
You guys are gonna bury me and that’s ok. I accept that by posting what I’m about to say.

gromer is a dick and a scam. He says he sends his gear to seedbanks for a wholesale under a hundred a pack and gets NO CUT off what the upcharge is? Allegedly. Mocks me asks me if I know business I told him I don’t have a degree but if he’s selling his gear to banks a under a bill a pack and they’re flipping for 300-400 a pack he must not know business either or is stupid. Said something about if I can’t afford them.

He’s unretired now or whatever he says. He was laid up with a broken back letting seed banks make 3-4x profit off his work? Because he was.... retired? These seeds come with gold glitter after you poop? Check gromers meatbreath IG post two days ago and tell me I’m fucked up. I asked him if they’re gonna be a reasonable price now since he’s back in the game or whatever and he blamed the seedbanks on the upcharge. I tagged the seedbanks and terpy act like it’s all good to rip us consumers off when gromer went public and said he sends em to banks under a bill a pack. Hype scam and sucks to see it.

before you flame me read what I wrote and tell me where I’m wrong please.
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I'm not flaming you or defending Gromer, but you seem confused.

How long have you been following Thug Pug? His packs were 80 bucks up until a little over a year ago. So yes he was selling the packs wholesale to seed banks for under a hundred bucks.

You can't compare the prices pre-retirement to after retirement with extreme hype. I've mentioned to this you in a few posts and you don't seem to get it. I'm not defending Gromer by any means, but you keep looking at the high prices after retirement and that is all the seed banks responding to the demand. He was actually very cheap before word of his retirement happened at about $80.

You compare price vs quality a lot in your posts, but Thug Pugs high prices are not about quality, its about demand and scarcity now.

When he retired the demand skyrocketed because people want what is exclusive and what they can't have, the whole FOMO thing, so the prices went up fast. It doesn't mean that they are worth that price, there was just that huge of a demand suddenly. The seed banks were the ones that were "ripping off" people simply cause the demand was there. Terpy was one of the last ones to raise prices, I've seen GLO and OES around $750-$1000 for packs pretty recently. It is shitty, but this is what supply and demand is. Terpy was one of the last banks I bought packs for $80 from, even when he raised prices at first they only went to $100 for awhile.

All this said, yes Gromer is still a dick lol.
 
Moabfighter

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LeftOurEyes said:
I'm not flaming you or defending Gromer, but you seem confused.

How long have you been following Thug Pug? His packs were 80 bucks up until a little over a year ago. So yes he was selling the packs wholesale to seed banks for under a hundred bucks.

You can't compare the prices pre-retirement to after retirement with extreme hype. I've mentioned to this you in a few posts and you don't seem to get it. I'm not defending Gromer by any means, but you keep looking at the high prices after retirement and that is all the seed banks responding to the demand. He was actually very cheap before word of his retirement happened at about $80.

You compare price vs quality a lot in your posts, but Thug Pugs high prices are not about quality, its about demand and scarcity now.

When he retired the demand skyrocketed because people want what is exclusive and what they can't have, the whole FOMO thing, so the prices went up fast. It doesn't mean that they are worth that price, there was just that huge of a demand suddenly. The seed banks were the ones that were "ripping off" people simply cause the demand was there. Terpy was one of the last ones to raise prices, I've seen GLO and OES around $750-$1000 for packs pretty recently. It is shitty, but this is what supply and demand is. Terpy was one of the last banks I bought packs for $80 from, even when he raised prices at first they only went to $100 for awhile.

All this said, yes Gromer is still a dick lol.
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Sorry man I feel you on what you’re saying you made it make more sense to me I apologize.
 
LeftOurEyes

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Moabfighter said:
Sorry man I feel you on what you’re saying you made it make more sense to me I apologize.
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No worries, you're good. If someone didn't start paying attention to Thug Pug until recently it would seems pretty wacky what's going on with all the hype surrounding him, the prices now, and the retired then un-retired stuff. The good thing about him originally was that the quality was great for the price, his stuff was a great bargain. He is an asshole in general though lol and can be hard to talk to.

The shitty hype stuff is also not exclusive to just Thug Pug, it seems to be becoming more and more common in the seed and cannabis industry in general lately. Look at Seed Junky's prices now. They were $200 before he went exclusive to cookies, then came back with a few drops that the banks want anywhere from $500-1000 for. Or Runtz with their $700 packs when they aren't even a proven breeder. A lot of nuts prices flying around that is more about demand than quality per se.
 
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