How far can "ripeness" be pushed?

M.O.

M.O.

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Sign me up for baby caiman trimmers and naked pixies to fetch my bud!

The market is going to be fucked for a long, long time in my opinion. Maybe forever if big money has their way.

Best thing to do is find a plant that likes your garden and just test it. If you can run from clone you can dial in your effects.

I have a listed 10 week keeper that I run for 90 days minimum from the 12 hour flip. The difference between 12 weeks and 13 is astounding on this particular plant. All aspects are amped up but it’s not until that last week it kicks in enough juice to help with pain. I wasn’t expecting such a dramatic effect going an extra week as 12 is damn nice already. I know that even another pheno from the pack would have a different timing or possibly different effects. I’m patient and persistent so I find what I want.

The goal of a business is to turn profit not create decent product. It’s that’s simple. Look at food. Cars. Anything.

Speaking of not following the industry. Hopefully photoperiods will survive the onslaught of autos. I’m hoping my personal seed bank will be enough to keep photos going indefinitely in my garden (and beyond hopefully) but sure would be nice if I didn’t have to worry. When all people care about is money though, well that’s all they’re going to care about. You better believe big money hates photos and wants them gone.
 
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sf_frankie

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tstick said:
Okay, okay...But I still really need some comments about just how far a plant can be ripened before it starts to degrade to the point of not being any good. The reason I am curious is because I've never seen a thread about plants that are "over"-ripe. And most of the pics, (as awesome as many of them are) are mostly clear, milky with a few amber thrown in, bright green...beautiful!....But what about buds that have all-amber trichs? -never seen any pics of those. I'm wondering how the flavors and smells change as the trichomes become more and more amber and the sugar leaves exhaust their chlorophyll. I plan on doing some more experiments in future grows, but at the moment, I only have two plants and I don't want to risk it this time.

What would be really interesting to know is if anyone has had the same strain and harvested some of the buds early and then let some go to the extreme amber end to see how the smell and taste changes. That's what I'm hoping to find out by asking this time. Eventually, I will find out by doing. :)
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I've got over 30 plants of the same strain going right now and intended to use a few of them for experiments. I like this idea, I might make it one of the tests. I'll document everything if I do.
 
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ComfortCreator

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I just harvested an Amnesia Lemon from Barneys Farm. It is listed as an 8 to 9 week strain. I just harvested it after 14.5 weeks of flower.

It could have gone longer, but it wasnt an experiment in this case it was when it was done.

I grew a 9 week Strawnana strain to 9 weeks, 12 weeks and 14 weeks once. I was told the taste was best with the 9 weeks, and potency was stronger with 12 and 14.
 
Southernontariogrower

Southernontariogrower

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tstick said:
Okay, okay...But I still really need some comments about just how far a plant can be ripened before it starts to degrade to the point of not being any good. The reason I am curious is because I've never seen a thread about plants that are "over"-ripe. And most of the pics, (as awesome as many of them are) are mostly clear, milky with a few amber thrown in, bright green...beautiful!....But what about buds that have all-amber trichs? -never seen any pics of those. I'm wondering how the flavors and smells change as the trichomes become more and more amber and the sugar leaves exhaust their chlorophyll. I plan on doing some more experiments in future grows, but at the moment, I only have two plants and I don't want to risk it this time.

What would be really interesting to know is if anyone has had the same strain and harvested some of the buds early and then let some go to the extreme amber end to see how the smell and taste changes. That's what I'm hoping to find out by asking this time. Eventually, I will find out by doing. :)
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Maybe as zoon as you get budrot
 
migenetics

migenetics

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Cousin_suds said:
I would like to see somedody do lab tests to see if the potency changes as the plants get older. say the thc at 7 weeks, then 8 weeks. 9 weeks etc...
It would take somebody with deep pockets, but would be interesting and maybe settle the question about flowering times.
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I think odie from homegrown natural wonders did this with quantum kush( could be off but it was on a episode of the pot cast) whatever the case, he tested buds pulled at 6,7,8,9,10 weeks and the highest thc was at 6 weeks and degrading from then on. I'm sure it has to with the bud size in relation to trichrome production. As the bud swells it still has the same amount of trichs per calyx so that would be why IMO.
 
tstick

tstick

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I just put one plant into a 72 hour dark period after 13 weeks. The other plant is about 10 days behind it and still going. I will never and I repeat NEVER harvest a plant when its fan leaves are still green. I will let ALL the Fall colors develop from now on. The smells and looks have evolved SO much more than I have let them achieve before, when I was harvesting too soon.

8 weeks just isn't log enough for a photoperiod plant...And, as far as autos are concerned, I don't like them and don't care.

I'd say that 11 weeks should be the minimum that any photoperiod plant should be chopped...but definitely not 8.
 
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TheWholeTruth

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tstick said:
Okay, okay...But I still really need some comments about just how far a plant can be ripened before it starts to degrade to the point of not being any good. The reason I am curious is because I've never seen a thread about plants that are "over"-ripe. And most of the pics, (as awesome as many of them are) are mostly clear, milky with a few amber thrown in, bright green...beautiful!....But what about buds that have all-amber trichs? -never seen any pics of those. I'm wondering how the flavors and smells change as the trichomes become more and more amber and the sugar leaves exhaust their chlorophyll. I plan on doing some more experiments in future grows, but at the moment, I only have two plants and I don't want to risk it this time.

What would be really interesting to know is if anyone has had the same strain and harvested some of the buds early and then let some go to the extreme amber end to see how the smell and taste changes. That's what I'm hoping to find out by asking this time. Eventually, I will find out by doing. :)
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Ive done that. I harvested some buds at what I would say was peak harvest and they were very good. Then I let the rest go very amber, very over done. The smell was quite deep and intoxicating very dark, but the bud has no high at all any more, tasted richer and smoother tho. I never did it again after that as I didnt want to get dead bud again. Not very scientific but thats my experience.
 
Southernontariogrower

Southernontariogrower

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80 to 90 days if company says 65 days. Imo only as some strains are done in 65 days. But they are advertised as 45 to 50 day 2 weeks of 12x12 is veg and stretch not flower. Sometimes 3 weeks before flowering sets in.
 
Southernontariogrower

Southernontariogrower

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tstick said:
I just put one plant into a 72 hour dark period after 13 weeks. The other plant is about 10 days behind it and still going. I will never and I repeat NEVER harvest a plant when its fan leaves are still green. I will let ALL the Fall colors develop from now on. The smells and looks have evolved SO much more than I have let them achieve before, when I was harvesting too soon.

8 weeks just isn't log enough for a photoperiod plant...And, as far as autos are concerned, I don't like them and don't care.

I'd say that 11 weeks should be the minimum that any photoperiod plant should be chopped...but definitely not 8.
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Agree! 100% would like to know what he says too!
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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I have a strain which can be cut anywhere between 56 days and 70 days from flip to 12/12. It's "done" in that window, depending on desired effects and terps, so I will often do a staggered harvest of that strain. It will put on around 25% more weight if I let it go 10-weeks vs 8.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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It's kind of like cooking a steak.

Take a few clones from a mother plant. Prepare / veg each in the same soil, same nutes etc. Flower them under the same lights, same temps. etc.
Harvest them at different dates. Let a couple go very long. Record your times etc. Take pictures if you're into that. Test them.

When you find the one you like, there's your answer.

The longer you work with a particular girl, the more you'll know what she wants or when she's gonna have a head ache.
 
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