So just to be clear, what are u using, buds? So I use popcorn buds and sugar leaves, I ran a Manatee 6 gallon for a couple of years , just small batches (maybe an ounce of finished hash). I have ran it using a work bag and without. 60/40 is off, but unless you ran the cycle too long there should be a decent return . I put down layer of ice, ( maybe 3to 4”) followed by work bag, and then more ice. Fill machine with cold water, let it set for several minutes followed by a 2/3 minute first cycle . You should always get a return unless the product doesn’t have tricome’s . B4 the machine I manually stirred the grog in 5 gallon bucket. I can tell you the colder the better.