Examples of GOP Leadership

DIY-HP-LED

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I figured that would go over like a turd in the punch bowl! HANG PAUL RYAN! The republican party is no longer about conservatism and serving the rich, it's about "git the brown and black folks" and Make America White, it has become a brainless tribe, not a political party.

Nobody is gonna pick up the pieces of the GOP from the steaming pile of shit for as long as Donald is around. This is an excellent example of why Donald running around loose is useful. Nobody can put lipstick on the pig as long as Donald is free to speak, he owns the base and makes money off the suckers. He also hopes his base might somehow rescue him from his legal troubles
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A time for abusing: Trump nukes Paul Ryan’s Reaganesque vision for GOP - POLITICO

A time for abusing: Trump nukes Paul Ryan’s Reaganesque vision for GOP
The Ronald Reagan Library’s speaker series about the future of the party gets off to an explosive start.

Over the span of 12 hours, the entire dilemma of the post-Trump GOP was encapsulated in a call-and-response between Paul Ryan and former President Donald Trump.

At the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, Calif. on Thursday night, Ryan had opened a speaker series billed as a conversation about the future of the Republican Party.

Trump replied by trashing Ryan from Mar-a-Lago the next morning, serving notice of how difficult that conversation may be.

After Ryan suggested that the conservative movement was about more than fealty to the defeated president, Trump called the former House speaker a “RINO” and a loser. And then Trump, the rare Republican who has criticized Reagan himself, went after Fred Ryan, chair of the board of the Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation.

“Ronald Reagan would not be happy to see that the Reagan Library is run by the head of the Washington Post, Fred Ryan,” Trump wrote. “How the hell did that happen? No wonder they consistently have RINO speakers like Karl Rove and Paul Ryan. They do nothing for our forward-surging Republican Party!”

One year ahead of the midterm elections, and with the earliest stages of the 2024 primary already underway, Trump is still backseat driving the Republican Party at every turn. And every sign suggests that the GOP is still with Trump — and has little interest in the kind of introspection that Ryan and traditionalists like him are begging for.

Even the Reagan Library’s “Time for Choosing” series — named for Reagan’s famous 1964 speech — is likely to come with a heavy dose of Trump-ism. Ryan will be followed by a set of speakers more sympathetic to the twice-impeached former president: Mike Pence, the former vice president; Mike Pompeo, the former secretary of state; Nikki Haley, the former U.N. ambassador; and Sens. Tim Scott of South Carolina and Tom Cotton of Arkansas. Aside from Ryan, all of them are prospective 2024 presidential contenders. And the response that Ryan received from Trump will remind them of the necessity of calibrating their remarks for Trump and his base.

Two of the upcoming speakers, Pence and Haley, have already paid for their lack of total allegiance, and the field is so deferential to Trump that most would likely not challenge him if he runs again in 2024.

In Ryan’s case, it’s not just that he was critical of Trump. It’s that the direction he wants conservatives to take is not in vogue in the modern GOP. A large majority of Republicans still believe Trump’s lie that the election was rigged. The party has declined to conduct the kinds of election post-mortems that both parties have traditionally performed following electoral defeats — party leaders weren’t willing to have a public discussion about what role Trump might have played.

Nor did many Republican voters see much reason to. When asked in a CBS News poll recently whether the GOP’s strategy for 2022 should be to prioritize the party’s message — telling the public about policies and ideas — or efforts to change voting laws, 47 percent of Republicans prioritized changing voting rules over ideas.

That’s despite the party continuing to lose market share nationally. Since the 1990s, Republican presidential candidates have won the popular vote only once, in 2004.

Ryan — once one of the GOP’s brightest stars — is clearly cognizant of the party’s diminished standing, having run on Mitt Romney’s losing ticket in 2012. Without naming Trump, he said at the Reagan Library that it was “horrifying to see a presidency come to such a dishonorable and disgraceful end. So once again, we conservatives find ourselves at a crossroads."

“If the conservative cause depends on the populist appeal of one personality, or of second-rate imitations, then we’re not going anywhere,” he said, adding that Republican voters would “not be impressed by the sight of yes-men and flatterers flocking to Mar-a-Lago.”

That is a prediction shared by some other establishment-minded Republicans, many of whom take comfort in past examples of the party evolving — and relatively fast. At the prodding of William F. Buckley in the 1960s, the party did reform, distancing itself from racists and “kooks.” In the 1970s, Richard Nixon’s resignation — and the tumult within the party that followed — gave way to Reagan just six years later.

Georgia’s Republican lieutenant governor, Geoff Duncan, a Trump critic who announced this month that he wouldn’t seek a second term, said recently that his "gut tells me that an overwhelming majority of Republicans are going to, over the next few years, begin to realize that there is a new way forward.”

Trump's hold on the party was not pre-ordained, after all. It was only about five years ago that he lost the Iowa caucuses to Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, and if Trump doesn’t run again in 2024 — or if he’s felled by a criminal investigation — his hold on the GOP may loosen over time.

“It can happen relatively quickly,” said Tom Campbell, a former California Republican congressman and Reagan administration staffer who began collecting registrations last year for his new party, the Common Sense Party. “Many people did not know of Donald Trump before he ran for president.”

But so far, the prospect of the party breaking with Trump is not in evidence. In a spring-long purge of the unfaithful, Republicans have censured GOP lawmakers critical of Trump and removed one of his fiercest critics, Rep. Liz Cheney of Wyoming, from her post in House leadership.

In the past, successful efforts to change the direction of the party “really took the intellectual class of the party to… articulate an intellectual vision,” said Mike Madrid, a Republican strategist who was a co-founder of the anti-Trump Lincoln Project before stepping down in December.

Today, he said, “That’s what’s missing. The William F. Buckleys of the world have been replaced by the Diamond and Silks of the world… All of the brain trust has essentially left.”
 

TacoMac

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hanimmal

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“You know, Nazis were the National Socialist Party. Just like the Democrats are now a national socialist party.”
— Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.), speaking at an “America First” rally, May 27

Those who apparently do not know history are doomed to make basic mistakes.
It seems so simple. The official name of the Adolf Hitler’s political party — the Nazis — had the word “socialist” in it. Ergo, it must have been a socialist party. And that means that Democrats, some of whom call themselves socialists, must be Nazis. Or something like that.


Greene is not the first Republican lawmaker to make this facile observation. So here’s a quick history lesson. (The video above also provides a useful primer on socialism.)

The Facts

The full name of Hitler’s party was Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei. In English, that translates to National Socialist German Workers’ Party. But it was not a socialist party; it was a right-wing, ultranationalist party dedicated to racial purity, territorial expansion and anti-Semitism — and total political control.

As Ronald Graniero of the Foreign Policy Research Institute has noted, in that platform there are also passages denouncing banks, department stores and “interest slavery.” That could be seen as “a quasi-Marxist rejection of free markets. But these were also typical criticisms in the anti-Semitic playbook, which provided a clue that the party’s overriding ideological goal wasn’t a fundamental challenge to private property.”

Let’s take a look at the first eight of the “25 points” in the 1920 Nazi party platform.

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As Ronald Graniero of the Foreign Policy Research Institute has noted, in that platform there are also passages denouncing banks, department stores and “interest slavery.” That could be seen as “a quasi-Marxist rejection of free markets. But these were also typical criticisms in the anti-Semitic playbook, which provided a clue that the party’s overriding ideological goal wasn’t a fundamental challenge to private property.”

The Nazi party was largely supported by small-business men and conservative industrialists, not the proletariat. Still, left-wing parties such as the Communists and Social Democrats were major parties in 1920s Germany so the inclusion of “socialist” in the party’s name was attractive to working-class voters who might also be anti-Semitic. Hitler adamantly rejected socialist ideas, dismantled or banned left-leaning parties and disapproved of trade unions. In many countries, trade unions played important roles in socialist movements or helped launch political movements that eventually adopted socialist platforms.

In fact, one of the most famous quotes of that era, enshrined on a wall at the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, is by Martin Niemöller, a prominent Lutheran pastor who spent seven years in Nazi concentration camps. His words provide a flavor of what the Nazis thought about socialists.
  • First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out — because I was not a socialist.
  • Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out — because I was not a trade unionist.
  • Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out — because I was not a Jew.
  • Then they came for me — and there was no one left to speak for me.
We sought comment from a Taylor spokesman but did not get a response.

The Pinocchio Test

We suggest Greene brush up on her history of the Nazi party. It was not a “socialist” party and cannot be compared, either in the United States or in Europe, to today’s socialists. She earns Four Pinocchios.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I thought that businesses had the right to refuse service to anyone, or does that only apply when it comes to dealing with the gays?


DeSantis is doing just fine in the Florida polls from what I can understand. Them good old boys just love him, he's triggering the libs, getting the black and brown folks, while having his head shoved firmly up Trump's asshole. He can't be a big enough asshole for most of them, definitely GOP presidential material, once Trump is shunted off the stage and is safely in prison.

So what if they lose all the cruse ship business, I imagine they also can't refuse service to someone who is sick and shitting themselves with norovirus (cruse ship disease) either. Concerts and sporting events are gonna move away too, but that's nothing compared to the joy of triggering the libs! The new highly contagious Indian variant is gonna go through the place like shit through a goose when it gets rolling. He'll need more money for ICU beds as they will all be filled with Trumpers and pseudo Christians.

So what are they gonna do when the vaccines come out of emergency use and healthcare insurance companies refuse to pay for covid treatments for the unvaccinated? The insurance companies aren't gonna foot the bill for idiots, stupidity will become a preexisting condition. I know, the state will pay for the Trumpers and born yesterday Christians hospital bills, hypocrisy and socialism are not problems!
 

TacoMac

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Old news.

Judge Jackson actually ruled that it be released.

But guess what? Go on, guess.

Merrick Garland and the DOJ are appealing her decision asking that the document not be released in full. They've released the first two pages of it but that's it.

A few days after that, Merrick Garland and the DOJ jumped to Trump and Barr's defense again by petitioning a judge to dismiss the lawsuit against them for that Bible photo op.

Everybody is ignoring the fact that every ruling and case against Barr, Trump and company are being defended by Biden, Garland and the DOJ.
 

hanimmal

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Old news.

Judge Jackson actually ruled that it be released.

But guess what? Go on, guess.

Merrick Garland and the DOJ are appealing her decision asking that the document not be released in full. They've released the first two pages of it but that's it.

A few days after that, Merrick Garland and the DOJ jumped to Trump and Barr's defense again by petitioning a judge to dismiss the lawsuit against them for that Bible photo op.

Everybody is ignoring the fact that every ruling and case against Barr, Trump and company are being defended by Biden, Garland and the DOJ.
fixed.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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DOJ Asks Judge to Dismiss Lawsuit Against Trump & Barr for Clearing Protestors from Lafayette Square

Last year, Bill Barr and others directed that Lafayette Square be cleared of protestors who were exercising their 1st Amendment rights so then-President Donald Trump could walk across the street to stand in front of a church for a political photo-op. The ACLU filed suit on behalf of protestors and journalists that were assaulted by law enforcement officers while they cleared the way for Trump's political stunt.

In a troubling move, the Department of Justice has now urged the judge to dismiss the case, claiming that Trump, Barr and other government officials have immunity from this particular lawsuit. This video presents an argument for why the suit should not be dismissed but instead should proceed to the discovery phase to, at a minimum, determine if Trump and Barr were acting within the scope of their official governmental duties when they ordered the area cleared - shutting down the protestors' exercise of their 1st Amendment rights, for a presidential photo op.
 

printer

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Arizona Senate considering another audit of Maricopa County 2020 election
The Arizona Senate may sign a deal for another 2020 election review in Maricopa County following reports that some overseers of the audit are dissatisfied with the process.

The present audit, which includes a review of 2.1 million ballots cast in the state's November election in the county, has been underway since April 23 at the Veterans Memorial Coliseum in Phoenix, led by the hired firm Cyber Ninjas. Audit liaison, former Secretary of State Ken Bennett, told a reporter with CBS5 News on Thursday that hand counters had gone through more than 800,000 ballots so far. Organizers have said they hope to finish by the end of June.

But the GOP-led state Senate is already eyeing another recount that would be entirely electronic, running digital images of ballots through a program to count all votes cast for every race on the county's ballot, according to the Arizona Republic. Bennett told the outlet they are considering a California-based election transparency nonprofit group called Citizens Oversight for the job, and the results from both audits could be compared to one another.

Citizens Oversight founder Ray Lutz, 63, told the Arizona Republic this week his group has never been commissioned to audit an election, adding that the technology being pitched for the process has never been used for an official audit.

"I would say absolutely this is a grand test," Lutz said. "I think it is certainly a big test for me because I have put a lot of work on it for the last year and a half or so. We have enhanced it to the point now where I believe we can do a lot to provide information about how well (this election) went."

Voting machines create digital images of ballots each time one is fed into it. The Maricopa County Board of Supervisors already provided the state Senate with those images as part of subpoenas a judge ruled in late February as "legal and enforceable."

When Lutz was asked whether he is entirely confident his system could accurately audit the county's election, Lutz said his team sometimes sees "mistakes that are made on our side."

State Senate President Karen Fann previously declined the opportunity to hire Clear Ballot, a firm that is said to be one of the only election audit companies that can digitally re-tabulate other company's ballots accurately, similar to Lutz's proposed method. The cost proposal for Clear Ballot to run the Maricopa County audit was $415,000, according to a copy obtained by the Arizona Republic.

It was not immediately clear how much the additional audit would cost the state Legislature.


Keep trying until you get the answer you want. Or you just want to milk your base.
 

VTHIZZ

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Arizona Senate considering another audit of Maricopa County 2020 election
The Arizona Senate may sign a deal for another 2020 election review in Maricopa County following reports that some overseers of the audit are dissatisfied with the process.

The present audit, which includes a review of 2.1 million ballots cast in the state's November election in the county, has been underway since April 23 at the Veterans Memorial Coliseum in Phoenix, led by the hired firm Cyber Ninjas. Audit liaison, former Secretary of State Ken Bennett, told a reporter with CBS5 News on Thursday that hand counters had gone through more than 800,000 ballots so far. Organizers have said they hope to finish by the end of June.

But the GOP-led state Senate is already eyeing another recount that would be entirely electronic, running digital images of ballots through a program to count all votes cast for every race on the county's ballot, according to the Arizona Republic. Bennett told the outlet they are considering a California-based election transparency nonprofit group called Citizens Oversight for the job, and the results from both audits could be compared to one another.

Citizens Oversight founder Ray Lutz, 63, told the Arizona Republic this week his group has never been commissioned to audit an election, adding that the technology being pitched for the process has never been used for an official audit.

"I would say absolutely this is a grand test," Lutz said. "I think it is certainly a big test for me because I have put a lot of work on it for the last year and a half or so. We have enhanced it to the point now where I believe we can do a lot to provide information about how well (this election) went."

Voting machines create digital images of ballots each time one is fed into it. The Maricopa County Board of Supervisors already provided the state Senate with those images as part of subpoenas a judge ruled in late February as "legal and enforceable."

When Lutz was asked whether he is entirely confident his system could accurately audit the county's election, Lutz said his team sometimes sees "mistakes that are made on our side."

State Senate President Karen Fann previously declined the opportunity to hire Clear Ballot, a firm that is said to be one of the only election audit companies that can digitally re-tabulate other company's ballots accurately, similar to Lutz's proposed method. The cost proposal for Clear Ballot to run the Maricopa County audit was $415,000, according to a copy obtained by the Arizona Republic.

It was not immediately clear how much the additional audit would cost the state Legislature.


Keep trying until you get the answer you want. Or you just want to milk your base.

absolute waste of time, money etc..
 
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