Is using a entire product line overkill?

[xtsho]

Do for commercial use.
Go find a farm supplier you will find fertilizer for each stage.

They don't mix 12 bottles changing each formula week by week. I'm well aware of agricultural fertilization practices and they are nothing like the cannabis nonsense. They're fertilization requirements are also based off of soil samples. Cannabis growers just keep dumping more crap despite plenty of nutrients already available. It's not anything even remotely similar.

 

[canna_420]

They don't mix 12 bottles changing each formula week by week. I'm well aware of agricultural fertilization practices and they are nothing like the cannabis nonsense. They also base their fertilization requirements based off of soil samples. Cannabis growers just keep dumping more crap despite plenty of nutrients already available. It's not anything even remotely similar.

You made this contradictory statement that I was addressing.

*Don't fall for the cannabis nutrient scam. You don't need these full lines and ridiculous feed charts that have you mixing all that crap. No other group of growers have fallen for this bullshit. If you grow orchids you use orchid food. If you grow roses you use rose food.*

 

[56nitty]

Nope.......just MaxiBloom from start to finish........no bloom enhancers, no calmag, no nothing.

wow! do you have any pictures? i’ll try that when I run out. Thanks for the insight

 

[MickFoster]

wow! do you have any pictures? i’ll try that when I run out. Thanks for the insight

2 weeks from sprout.

3 weeks from sprout.......I flipped to 12/12 2 days later.

4 weeks of flower.

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

Fine, we're being respectful now...I won't raise my voice at you anymore, woman.

Please stop calling people a woman, like it's an insult. Yes I realize the OP did first. Be better.

 

[xtsho]

2 weeks from sprout.
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3 weeks from sprout.......I flipped to 12/12 2 days later.
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4 weeks of flower.
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Needs calmag.

 

[speedwell68]

I use Blattwerk Pure as a general feed, once my compost is depleted. I will add a little Epsom Salts to that once a week. During flowering I use Plant Magic Old Timers and a touch of Epsom salts. I can get 500g out of 1m2. Back in the day, 20+ years ago, I used to use Tomato feed at 50% strength for veg and full strength for flowering, TBH that worked too. I use premium brand stuff these days because I find it to be better value. 1L of Blattwerk Pure lasts a couple of years, a bottle of tomato feed is the same price but lasts half as long. I am spending about £20 a year in nutes.

My mate uses Advanced Nutrients he has about a dozen bottles and spends hundreds a year. He thinks the fact I use "bath salts" that costs £1 for 1KG to be crazy as it will taint my weed. Fucking bro scientists.

If I were to follow the Plant Magic Old Timers schedule I would require 8 different products. Oh and Plant Magic Organic Magnesium is a fucking rip off, do people really pay that much for a little tub of Epsom Salts?

Peat based soil mixes are soon to be banned in the UK. I am seriously considering making my own compost and augmenting it with a mild mix of chicken manure, fish, blood and bone with Epsom salts and going completely organic.

 

[xtsho]

I use Blattwerk Pure as a general feed, once my compost is depleted. I will add a little Epsom Salts to that once a week. During flowering I use Plant Magic Old Timers and a touch of Epsom salts. I can get 500g out of 1m2. Back in the day, 20+ years ago, I used to use Tomato feed at 50% strength for veg and full strength for flowering, TBH that worked too. I use premium brand stuff these days because I find it to be better value. 1L of Blattwerk Pure lasts a couple of years, a bottle of tomato feed is the same price but lasts half as long. I am spending about £20 a year in nutes.

My mate uses Advanced Nutrients he has about a dozen bottles and spends hundreds a year. He thinks the fact I use "bath salts" that costs £1 for 1KG to be crazy as it will taint my weed. Fucking bro scientists.

If I were to follow the Plant Magic Old Timers schedule I would require 8 different products. Oh and Plant Magic Organic Magnesium is a fucking rip off, do people really pay that much for a little tub of Epsom Salts?

Peat based soil mixes are soon to be banned in the UK. I am seriously considering making my own compost and augmenting it with a mild mix of chicken manure, fish, blood and bone with Epsom salts and going completely organic.

Tell your buddy that the magnesium sulfate in his bottles of advanced nutrients is the same thing as epsom salts. But more than likely he wouldn't believe you.

 

[canna_420]

I use Blattwerk Pure as a general feed, once my compost is depleted. I will add a little Epsom Salts to that once a week. During flowering I use Plant Magic Old Timers and a touch of Epsom salts. I can get 500g out of 1m2. Back in the day, 20+ years ago, I used to use Tomato feed at 50% strength for veg and full strength for flowering, TBH that worked too. I use premium brand stuff these days because I find it to be better value. 1L of Blattwerk Pure lasts a couple of years, a bottle of tomato feed is the same price but lasts half as long. I am spending about £20 a year in nutes.

My mate uses Advanced Nutrients he has about a dozen bottles and spends hundreds a year. He thinks the fact I use "bath salts" that costs £1 for 1KG to be crazy as it will taint my weed. Fucking bro scientists.

If I were to follow the Plant Magic Old Timers schedule I would require 8 different products. Oh and Plant Magic Organic Magnesium is a fucking rip off, do people really pay that much for a little tub of Epsom Salts?

Peat based soil mixes are soon to be banned in the UK. I am seriously considering making my own compost and augmenting it with a mild mix of chicken manure, fish, blood and bone with Epsom salts and going completely organic.

Use charge from ecothrive I use it with synthetic but can be used alone. Or any frass.

 

[canna_420]

Tell your buddy that the magnesium sulfate in his bottles of advanced nutrients is the same thing as epsom salts. But more than likely he wouldn't believe you.

*Advanced is Calcium nitrate isn't the same as Epsom. Epsom salt is just mg and sulphur.

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

Calcium nitrate isn't the same as Epsom. Epsom salt is just mg and sulphur.

Please reread your quote. Magnesium Sulfate in his bottle is the same as Epsom Salts. Didn't say Calcium Nitrate. Epsom Salts = Magnesium Sulfate

 

[Doug Dawson]

Well shit, looked at this thread at page one and than came back to find this mess. Some real good info if you got the chest waders to find it.

 

[canna_420]

Please reread your quote. Magnesium Sulfate in his bottle is the same as Epsom Salts. Didn't say Calcium Nitrate. Epsom Salts = Magnesium Sulfate

Advanced uses calcium nitrate not Epsom salt for calmag.

If it's sold as cal-mag it's definitely not Epsom salt.

 

[canna_420]

You can also buy calcium nitrate (unbranded) as a kitchen preserve on eBay at a fraction of the cost but same MG-cal

 

[bk78]

This is almost as awful as a flushing thread

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

Advanced uses calcium nitrate not Epsom salt for calmag.

If it's sold as cal-mag it's definitely not Epsom salt.

The person you quoted was discussing magnesium sulfate not calcium nitrate it CalMag.

 

[canna_420]

The person you quoted was discussing magnesium sulfate not calcium nitrate it CalMag.

Nonsense.

*Tell your buddy that the magnesium sulfate in his bottles of advanced nutrients is the same thing as epsom salts. *

Is factually inaccurate and disputed by the bottle.

 

[xtsho]

*Advanced is Calcium nitrate isn't the same as Epsom. Epsom salt is just mg and sulphur.

I know what epsom salts are. I wasn't specifically referring to their calmag. If you look at the ingredients in many of their products you'll see magnesium sulfate listed. I was referring to that ingredient being the same as the epsom salts you can get at the drugstore. I don't care what they put in their calmag.

 

[canna_420]

I know what epsom salts are. I wasn't specifically referring to their calmag. If you look at the ingredients in many of their products you'll see magnesium sulfate listed. I was referring to that ingredient being the same as the epsom salts you can get at the drugstore. I don't care what they put in their calmag.

Why you getting so angry bro?

Noobs don't like being corrected.

*Edit.
Less likely to use Epsom in a liquid fertilizer because it doesn't stay liquid long so less stable than using the normal calcium nitrate.

 

[twentyeight.threefive]

Why you getting so angry bro?

Noobs don't like being corrected.

No one said CalMag. Stop trying to act like Mr. Wizard.