Dryxi
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I think he was referencing Buck, mooray, and Rob.
Reparations MADE
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Detroitwill
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Here you go with that white people shit… it wasn’t just white people. Anyone who could leave did. Many people left the state all together. And again… none of that has had any affect on people now. A minority will get the job before anyone else. “Minority” that’s a loooooose term there boy. I mean, how long should we hand over all opportunity to the “black” populous? Do you see any other ethnic group with organizations dedicated to helping them go to college due to their race? Or the multitudes of other government programs for a specific ethnic group? Come on now… you don’t think that all of that has been a bit much? Cry to be equal in society and once you get it you cry for extra because things were so bad. Then you get that and now it’s give us money and land. Next it’ll be bow and praise you. When is it enough?
Detroitwill
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Lmao… nope wasn’t talkin bout you. By the way please save ur bitch word for rosey at night bro.
Dryxi
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We haven't reach a point where we are handing all opportunity to the black population. Many of the programs and especially the groups that help them go to college, are needed. Sometimes when you've been held down in a hole, you need a hand to get up. The situation in many black neighborhoods and such is at a point where they need help due to racism and policies that directly affected those areas. Americans need help in some places more than others. A monetary payment or land payment isn't going to fix policies that need reform.
To add, the minority getting a job over whites is sometimes needed. Many industries are prominently white, or at least management is.... decades after those policies were made. Minorities need to be included where they have been excluded, or the cycle doesn't stop.
Fogdog
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I don't see why we have to put clumsy modifiers into our language when the point can be accurately made without them.I wasn't sure about the previous post being sarcasm or not so I just over answered lol. I got confused and just rolled with it I think.
When it comes to this topic, I try to be sure to give room for the 'but this one black guy made it' inevitable troll that someone will push eventually.
It's basically the flip of someone watching 8 mile and using what they imagine it to be as into a snowflake about poor white kids who grow up in 'minority' neighborhoods.
Detroitwill
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Man when do people get to stand up and be accountable for the shit goin on n stop blaming the government or “America” ? Do you know why most kids from “bad” areas don’t go to college? Because of the influences around them. Do you know what one single thing influences our youth? It sure isn’t any of this shit! A intelligent kid will make it in college no matter where they are from. If they’re from a “bad” area they will learn to make a life without a “education” due to the need to do so. And to be honest it’s music that has the greatest influence on people. Then their peers ( you know the people in their age demographic and area) who influence us. So if you want to fix things you need to give uppwrtunities to the poor. Not one ethnic group. Man I feel like I’m talking to the wall here
insomnia65
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How far you going go back, a lot of people whose ancestors were slaves also found out they were also related to slave owners, to me it just seems to be able to be used for peoples gain, leave the past where it is and let's all build a better society.
Detroitwill
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Ok ok I gotta go do the garden. Peace.
hanimmal
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So you don't believe that things like red-lining (which was going on well into this millennium) occurred? About how real estate would go off market in nice cities when minorities want to buy, or loans not being made for decades?
How about police harassing people out of white suburban neighborhoods? Because I have seen that shit too.
You are wrong.
98% of the land owned in America belonging to white people shows that. The 4x more likely of having a criminal record by the age of 20 being black vs white too. The 2000 cops patrolling the streets where you live vs the 170 a couple counties away too.
Unless you think being locked up in juvie makes you into anything other than more likely to come out of your childhood with all the tools you need to succeed.
Oh snowflake. You are so full of shit.
Or maybe just competing in a area with other people with similar background as you are and mistaking that for how the other 98% of the country is set up.
Yes.
Do you really think that most federal funding for college does not go to white people? Do you know too that white people use the federal aid than any other group?
You have developed a whole lot of false beleifs about race. It is not uncommon from all the white people I know in Detroit. But it is ignorant, and you should quit thinking you know everything because your one particular experience.
You mean like the white people actively trying to hurt the ability to vote of non-white people for decades is over?
Shit would you please tell that to the Republicans that tried to take both of our votes away in 2020 (assuming you voted).
And you are off in la-la land now. I am guessing that the next sentence is some troll.
Yup. Troll.
It sucks that the elder white males of yours lied to you and you bought into it so hard man. It happens though, and I hope you find your way out of the propaganda attack trying to keep you believing their bullshit.
I think when our kids are all able to get all the tools that they can need to be as successful in life regardless of where they lived, and who their parents were would be a good start when added to the ability to not have hurdles thrown infront of their ability to vote and any other economic roadblocks tossed in the way of non-white people would be right about the point of it being 'enough'.
It is a shame that right now we have a entire political parties platform (the Republicans) pushing these 'not racist, but' narratives across all their media outlets to trick people into believing the shit you are talking at the end.
hanimmal
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Pre-2017 me would have also agreed with you.
Fogdog
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You are focusing on minutia as if it proves the opposite of the truth. White people did abandon the cities after the civil rights laws banned discriminatory practices in housing and education. Is 90% somehow different than 100% when it comes to what happened to inner cities over the past 30 years? White people left the cities for the suburbs. It's called white flight. Look it up.
Then there is the straw man in your argument. "how long should we hand over all opportunity to the "black" populous (sic)?". We aren't. We haven't. Stop with the fallacious arguments.
Fogdog
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What happened that ruined your communication skills?
Do you not see how Detroit man is tying you up in knots using minutia to falsely claim he's right about white flight?
Dryxi
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The government is to blame in many parts of the talk. Policies and government actions that are to blame, need to be held accountable for helping keep people in the positions they find themselves. It is easy to say it is their own fault for not leaving a bad situation and that they are to blame for living in the hood, in the present. The government should be helping all Americans to have similar standards of life, those 'bad' areas need more help. As well as the mostly white coal areas or the mostly Hispanic border cities.
hanimmal
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Naive.
What you are mistaking for 'bad area' kids is that you can't get federal funding if you have a record.
And you are also discounting how many more people that you come in contact with in the city vs suburbs. You can't escape older brothers and sisters/cousins of you and your friends in the city. Chances are one eventually tries to get you to do something for them. You don't have those same pressures in the burbs/rural America, and when you do, there are far fewer cops to catch you.
Also parents who have never gotten a education have a harder time knowing what their kids need to succeed in school to get into college (and succeed once they are in).
Again naive. Shit happens, life is not that clean.
Why should everything be so hard?
You dismissing the very real impacts time has had on areas like Detroit due to the Wealthy Melanin-lite Heterosexual Human Male agenda having near total control of our nation until far too recently to just overcome all the decay that has been allowed to fester.
Fair enough, I thought you were talking about something else. I will think about what you say. I know he is just trolling. He claims to be from Detroit, but as of yet hasn't actually said anything about the city really. Other than the bullshit about Redford po boxes, which is just nonsense they didn't elaborate on.
As far as what happened to 'ruin my communication skills' I think I would say posting on this site would be why. I really do hate it, but I don't see this attack ending just yet. I had hoped it would, but the Republicans are sticking with it.
Fogdog
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Detroit man: All the opportunity is being given to "black" people
Which reply is most likely to change Detroit man's mind:
Reply #1: That's not true, quit your fucking whining and stop lying to me.
Reply #2:
Income inequality in the United States is the extent to which income is distributed in differing amounts among the American population. It has fluctuated considerably since measurements began around 1915, moving in an arc between peaks in the 1920s and 2000s, with a 30-year period of relatively lower inequality between 1950 and 1980.
The U.S. has the highest level of income inequality among its (post-)industrialized peers.[1] When measured for all households, U.S. income inequality is comparable to other developed countries before taxes and transfers, but is among the highest after taxes and transfers, meaning the U.S. shifts relatively less income from higher income households to lower income households. In 2016, average market income was $15,600 for the lowest quintile and $280,300 for the highest quintile. The degree of inequality accelerated within the top quintile, with the top 1% at $1.8 million, approximately 30 times the $59,300 income of the middle quintile.[2]
The economic and political impacts of inequality may include slower GDP growth, reduced income mobility, higher poverty rates, greater usage of household debt leading to increased risk of financial crises, and political polarization.[3] Causes of inequality may include executive compensation increasing relative to the average worker, financialization, greater industry concentration, lower unionization rates, lower effective tax rates on higher incomes, and technology changes that reward higher educational attainment.[4]
Measurement is debated, as inequality measures vary significantly, for example, across datasets[5][6] or whether the measurement is taken based on cash compensation (market income) or after taxes and transfer payments. The Gini coefficient is a widely accepted statistic that applies comparisons across jurisdictions, with a zero indicating perfect equality and 1 indicating maximum inequality. Further, various public and private data sets measure those incomes, e.g., from the Congressional Budget Office (CBO),[2] the Internal Revenue Service, and Census.[7] According to the Census Bureau, income inequality reached record levels in 2018, with a Gini of .49.[8]
US tax and transfer policies are progressive and therefore reduce effective income inequality. The 2016 US Gini coefficient was .59 based on market income, but was reduced to .42 after taxes and transfers, according to Congressional Budget Office (CBO) figures. The top 1% share of market income rose from 9.6% in 1979 to a peak of 20.7% in 2007, before falling to 17.5% by 2016. After taxes and transfers, these figures were 7.4%, 16.6%, and 12.5%, respectively.[2]
Income inequality in the United States - Wikipedia
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Trick question. Neither reply will change his mind. Both replies are adequate. I choose reply 1 because it's more satisfying to say. Also, nobody is going to read reply 2.
Dryxi
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I read reply 1 and 2. 'Nobody' is such a broad word... in need of a clumsy modifier... just kidding lolDetroit man: All the opportunity is being given to "black" people
Which reply is most likely to change Detroit man's mind:
Reply #1: That's not true, quit your fucking whining and stop lying to me.
Reply #2:
Income inequality in the United States is the extent to which income is distributed in differing amounts among the American population. It has fluctuated considerably since measurements began around 1915, moving in an arc between peaks in the 1920s and 2000s, with a 30-year period of relatively lower inequality between 1950 and 1980.
The U.S. has the highest level of income inequality among its (post-)industrialized peers.[1] When measured for all households, U.S. income inequality is comparable to other developed countries before taxes and transfers, but is among the highest after taxes and transfers, meaning the U.S. shifts relatively less income from higher income households to lower income households. In 2016, average market income was $15,600 for the lowest quintile and $280,300 for the highest quintile. The degree of inequality accelerated within the top quintile, with the top 1% at $1.8 million, approximately 30 times the $59,300 income of the middle quintile.[2]
The economic and political impacts of inequality may include slower GDP growth, reduced income mobility, higher poverty rates, greater usage of household debt leading to increased risk of financial crises, and political polarization.[3] Causes of inequality may include executive compensation increasing relative to the average worker, financialization, greater industry concentration, lower unionization rates, lower effective tax rates on higher incomes, and technology changes that reward higher educational attainment.[4]
Measurement is debated, as inequality measures vary significantly, for example, across datasets[5][6] or whether the measurement is taken based on cash compensation (market income) or after taxes and transfer payments. The Gini coefficient is a widely accepted statistic that applies comparisons across jurisdictions, with a zero indicating perfect equality and 1 indicating maximum inequality. Further, various public and private data sets measure those incomes, e.g., from the Congressional Budget Office (CBO),[2] the Internal Revenue Service, and Census.[7] According to the Census Bureau, income inequality reached record levels in 2018, with a Gini of .49.[8]
US tax and transfer policies are progressive and therefore reduce effective income inequality. The 2016 US Gini coefficient was .59 based on market income, but was reduced to .42 after taxes and transfers, according to Congressional Budget Office (CBO) figures. The top 1% share of market income rose from 9.6% in 1979 to a peak of 20.7% in 2007, before falling to 17.5% by 2016. After taxes and transfers, these figures were 7.4%, 16.6%, and 12.5%, respectively.[2]
Income inequality in the United States - Wikipedia
Trick question. Neither reply will change his mind. Both replies are adequate. I choose reply 1 because it's more satisfying to say. Also, nobody is going to read reply 2.
Detroitwill
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Answer two only proves my point. And answer one is what you had. Ok then. You write very well. You come across well and make every point that there is. And you show multiple times when your lucid. Maybe stop popping pills n smoke some bud, take a nap. Whatever it takes you know. Then wake up and stop asking for hand outs in someone else’s stead. You aren’t in need nor have you prolly ever been. My guess is you wrote a paper on it and it got stuck in your brain. This isn’t the class room n there is no prof here. Real life often doesn’t measure up to what is believed or written.Detroit man: All the opportunity is being given to "black" people
Which reply is most likely to change Detroit man's mind:
Reply #1: That's not true, quit your fucking whining and stop lying to me.
Reply #2:
Income inequality in the United States is the extent to which income is distributed in differing amounts among the American population. It has fluctuated considerably since measurements began around 1915, moving in an arc between peaks in the 1920s and 2000s, with a 30-year period of relatively lower inequality between 1950 and 1980.
The U.S. has the highest level of income inequality among its (post-)industrialized peers.[1] When measured for all households, U.S. income inequality is comparable to other developed countries before taxes and transfers, but is among the highest after taxes and transfers, meaning the U.S. shifts relatively less income from higher income households to lower income households. In 2016, average market income was $15,600 for the lowest quintile and $280,300 for the highest quintile. The degree of inequality accelerated within the top quintile, with the top 1% at $1.8 million, approximately 30 times the $59,300 income of the middle quintile.[2]
The economic and political impacts of inequality may include slower GDP growth, reduced income mobility, higher poverty rates, greater usage of household debt leading to increased risk of financial crises, and political polarization.[3] Causes of inequality may include executive compensation increasing relative to the average worker, financialization, greater industry concentration, lower unionization rates, lower effective tax rates on higher incomes, and technology changes that reward higher educational attainment.[4]
Measurement is debated, as inequality measures vary significantly, for example, across datasets[5][6] or whether the measurement is taken based on cash compensation (market income) or after taxes and transfer payments. The Gini coefficient is a widely accepted statistic that applies comparisons across jurisdictions, with a zero indicating perfect equality and 1 indicating maximum inequality. Further, various public and private data sets measure those incomes, e.g., from the Congressional Budget Office (CBO),[2] the Internal Revenue Service, and Census.[7] According to the Census Bureau, income inequality reached record levels in 2018, with a Gini of .49.[8]
US tax and transfer policies are progressive and therefore reduce effective income inequality. The 2016 US Gini coefficient was .59 based on market income, but was reduced to .42 after taxes and transfers, according to Congressional Budget Office (CBO) figures. The top 1% share of market income rose from 9.6% in 1979 to a peak of 20.7% in 2007, before falling to 17.5% by 2016. After taxes and transfers, these figures were 7.4%, 16.6%, and 12.5%, respectively.[2]
Income inequality in the United States - Wikipedia
Trick question. Neither reply will change his mind. Both replies are adequate. I choose reply 1 because it's more satisfying to say. Also, nobody is going to read reply 2.
Fogdog
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Quit your fucking whining and stop lying to me.
UncleBuck
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I guess it's ok to enslave people and steal their wealth as long as you rape them too