GreenTools
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TT NL #6× Appy all at 42 days of 12/12 
bodhi seeds
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GreenTools
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Nice! Used to be a solid outdoor blueberry in the berkshires back in the 90's, probably still there in some convoluted outdoor seed lines....
MICHI-CAN
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Picture is sad. A much needed hard rain burst. Bohdi's will respond well. Had to hide in the shade with the sudden heat and low humidity. The grow is on. Will get fun in a few weeks. I'll get clear pics when I get out again. And this NL x Dragon Fruit is a beast. So dreading a male. LOL. 
MICHI-CAN
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Sun is shining again and you can't breath it is so hot and humid.
Here are some pics for the people following. My Bodhi's and a less than impressive Seedsman auto. None of the issues I've been told. Very healthy. Just really small. A few weeks to fix that still. Only feeding for a week now.
Here are some pics for the people following. My Bodhi's and a less than impressive Seedsman auto. None of the issues I've been told. Very healthy. Just really small. A few weeks to fix that still. Only feeding for a week now.
AdvancedBuffalo
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I just found Larry OG in 3 packs of Electric Cowboy! It’s insane. It’s basically just the mom with improved vigor. It’s so loud and Larry OG leaning that I’d expect it to cure well and taste great.
On the live plant it smells like lemon rinds, vanilla cream, and walnuts soaking in a solvent.
I’ll keep you all updated with how these go. But overall I really like what I’m finding in these Electirc Cowboy packs. It’s like the lemony sister to black triangle.
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hillbill
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7 Lazy Lightning with tails are in the dirt in red Solos!
3 Old Soul at 43 days are bushy plants with nice branching for training but still compact, one leans slightly more Sativa in expression and another has extremely tight buds with crowded trykes. Pulled a nanner on one a few days ago, not seen more. These are sticky with a sour aroma with incense notes, woody.
Two Babylon Buster still “in the game” but not showing sex at 11 days but may very well be girls as 2 boys threw balls by the bushel several days ago.
5 Bing topped after first up pot to hot dirt in veg.
3 Old Soul at 43 days are bushy plants with nice branching for training but still compact, one leans slightly more Sativa in expression and another has extremely tight buds with crowded trykes. Pulled a nanner on one a few days ago, not seen more. These are sticky with a sour aroma with incense notes, woody.
Two Babylon Buster still “in the game” but not showing sex at 11 days but may very well be girls as 2 boys threw balls by the bushel several days ago.
5 Bing topped after first up pot to hot dirt in veg.
copkilller
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i got some old souls too, extreemly big leafed and they are light feeders
vigourous and green... unlike my mountain temples that are finiky branchy and and heavy feeders
AdvancedBuffalo
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Just wanted to pop by and update you all on the Wookie crosses since they have had time in the jar.
DISCLAIMER: I am not insulting the wookie dad. It looks like these just werent great pairings. I have heard very similar reports from other who have run these so.. Yeah.
The Granola Funk was jarred for 3 weeks. Smells are extremely muted with some moss/old shoe/slight spice notes. I thought the terps would be better on the grind but they werent. Taste was extremely basic, typical flavorless cookies cross with a hilariously weak and short duration high. This pretty accurately describes all 4 phenos that have been jarred for 3 weeks. Overall I think the hype on this one was driven by cash croppers because of the high bud density and yield. Based on both runs (24 seeds total) I will not be exploring this line further. Bodhi has much better offerings than this.
The Phone Home was also jarred alongside the Gfunk and developed to a much better point. Sweet vanilla-cake OG fuel notes are present on most phenos. The closer to TK things get the better the bud cured. Smooth velvety smoke with a sweet gassy vanilla inhale, not much on exhale. No real mouth coat. Potency is definitely considerably higher than Gfunk. Very good, uplifted, positive high with great duration and low tolerance buildup over time. This line was much better than Gfunk, but still didnt really warrant further searches through this specific line.
The nail in the coffin for Phone Home was late stage herms. Most developed sacks late in flower that were completely concealed by the buds. It was worse on the lowers. 60% of Phone Home plants had sacks. Some seemingly wookie dominant, some TK dom. IMO this cross shouldn't have made it passed testing.
More wookie leaning pheno
TK leaner
I cant understand how stuff like this passes testing.
DISCLAIMER: I am not insulting the wookie dad. It looks like these just werent great pairings. I have heard very similar reports from other who have run these so.. Yeah.
The Granola Funk was jarred for 3 weeks. Smells are extremely muted with some moss/old shoe/slight spice notes. I thought the terps would be better on the grind but they werent. Taste was extremely basic, typical flavorless cookies cross with a hilariously weak and short duration high. This pretty accurately describes all 4 phenos that have been jarred for 3 weeks. Overall I think the hype on this one was driven by cash croppers because of the high bud density and yield. Based on both runs (24 seeds total) I will not be exploring this line further. Bodhi has much better offerings than this.
The Phone Home was also jarred alongside the Gfunk and developed to a much better point. Sweet vanilla-cake OG fuel notes are present on most phenos. The closer to TK things get the better the bud cured. Smooth velvety smoke with a sweet gassy vanilla inhale, not much on exhale. No real mouth coat. Potency is definitely considerably higher than Gfunk. Very good, uplifted, positive high with great duration and low tolerance buildup over time. This line was much better than Gfunk, but still didnt really warrant further searches through this specific line.
The nail in the coffin for Phone Home was late stage herms. Most developed sacks late in flower that were completely concealed by the buds. It was worse on the lowers. 60% of Phone Home plants had sacks. Some seemingly wookie dominant, some TK dom. IMO this cross shouldn't have made it passed testing.
More wookie leaning pheno
TK leaner
I cant understand how stuff like this passes testing.
The Mantis
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Your experience could be isolated, as suggested after reading this entire thread. I personally have grown over 25 Bodhi Strains from over 35 packs, including 4 Wookie crosses, and can't remember seeing any pollen sacks on females. And we stress them all hard during testing.
AdvancedBuffalo
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If you haven't hunted these specific crosses, please refrain from commenting on them. Anyone with experience running TK or Forum Cut crosses would understand that the herms are coming from the mom and not the dad.
The Mantis
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The purpose of this thread is education. My experience might help someone. You suggest I refrain from posting my experience here in a forum intended to help people? That's absurd. Check your ego, I'm not trying to insult you or call you a bad grower.
To be more clear, I've grown 4 different TK crosses over 8 packs of Bodhi from the Ghash male, the OMG male, and the Iraqi male. None of them had pollen sacks.
Really hope that helps someone here.
nuskool89
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Respectfully, check your ego.
He has shared a lot of very helpful information and feedback for a long time in this thread. He is sharing detailed information about granola funk and phone home. It doesn’t require defense of other Bodhi crosses or even wookie crosses. You kind of inserted yourself into his grow reports attempting to discredit what he is sharing with the community.
If it was some one time poster with little to no pictures or forum footprint I’d be right there with you calling out the imposter. But he is a regular
AdvancedBuffalo
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How is that supposed to help someone? You have no experience with this specific cross. You are using your experience with TK x extremely dominant males as a way to call my experience an isolated event.
There is no ego here. In fact, I used to be that guy who would comment on crosses based on my experience with their sister crosses. It just doesn't translate because plant genetics arent that simple. You cant compare Ghash, OMG, or Iraqi TK crosses to Wookie x TK because they express in dramatically different ways. Its quite clear that Ghash, OMG, and Iraqi are extremely dominant where Wookie 15 seem to be more recessive when pared with these odd-breeding females.
The negative feedback on Bodhi crosses always seems to cause an uproar among people emotionally attached to their genetics and it can be a real problem. These herm traits can only be seen during a wet trim for WPFF preparation. When the flowers dry the sacs are almost impossible to see. There are no seeds, but the presence of these sacs eliminates the line from any further exploration because of instability. As a breeder, you should look at this "isolated event" as a large red flag. One instance of this is enough to warrant shelving a line. Its alarming that something like this would be written off by someone who does breeding work.
I have a lot of very positive information to share alongside some photos, but I wanna wait until further cure testing. I really want to leave glowing reviews of some Bodhi stuff I have going but I also dont want to backpedal like I did with the Gfunk and Phone Home. Hint: Wookie 7 is looking like a very very nice female.
The Mantis
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Gotta go to work now. Good luck guys.
AlienAthena
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Except AB is the one making blanket statement like “this should have never made it past the testers” when a quick search of the strains in this thread will show that more people have had favorable grows than unfavorable ones. Someone being a regular doesn’t make what they have to say right. Also the other poster was very respectful in their response.
AdvancedBuffalo
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I ran through 8 total phenos and 5 of them had sacs. I posted photos. Where is the blanket statement? All I see is a statement about a very specific cross with statistics and photos. I use single packs as genetic "tasters" to see if a line is worth sifting through. All Im saying is.. This one gets a big fat "Nope".
I'm finishing up a 250 seed/140 pheno hunt right now and the TK x Phone Home is the only cross to show this issue. The cure characteristics are another topic all together though.
Ill be back with more positive and negative feedback. I think I have 4-5 potential keepers based on expression/smell so.. I look forward to the angry mob when I explain why I did not keep the other 135.
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raggyb
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I'm just surprised because based on your earlier pics of granola funk it looked awesome.
Facts
AdvancedBuffalo
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I was so excited for it too haha. I thought it was gonna be one of those plants that maybe didn’t have too strong of a nose but packed a hell of a taste. I’ve seen that quite a bit, especially with hype/cookie crosses. I think that is 12 phenos that I have looked through and no plant has had standout qualities. Great resin and density, but I’m looking for smokers plants not growers plants.
It’s funny just how much better the phone home is for personal smoke than the Gfunk though. Dramatically higher potency on all phenos, they all wash 4% or so for water hash, smoother smoke, better flavor. It would get a recommendation from me as something that may have an excellent keeper if you really hunt and cure test everything, but herms can’t happen.
The Wookie 7 female is looking to be a really nice one though. I have a really female leaning Chembucha from Cannavore. Wookie 7 x GMO/Waltz. Smells like a lavender plant fused with slight chem/GMO with a hint of grapefruit. Another pheno leans more chem/grapefruit as well. Genuinely some of the most impressive scents that I have smelled in cannabis so far. If it cures well and has a great high I will be so excited. I’ll be taking a closer look into Wookie 7 pairings. Only thing to consider is selecting a male with vertical growth characteristics, because the Wookie apparently grows horizontally.
Electric Cowboy seems like it throws out 1 decent keeper per pack with a real show stopper once every 50 seeds. That’s a pretty good rate considering the apparent quality of the standout pheno. Still need to smoke test.
The Mantis
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We germinate 1500-2000 seeds per year but what the hell do I know?
To address @nuskool89 , the way in which this can help people is to propose that maybe (just maybe) that if someone else has a hermie issue, they might ask why and look inward, instead of jumping to conclusions. We have many people running the same cut, with tremendously different outcomes. From what I've seen, people who claim to see hermies many times are using nutes or in hydro. When breeders (like Bodhi and many other of the top names out there) all grow using natural farming methods, one might think the plants are attuned to running that way. When we stress test, we only use organic soil, and never stress using salts/nutes, so perhaps we are missing the stress testing in that aspect.
Not saying this is a fact and that @AdvancedBuffalo pumped up the ppm too much, but it's worth considering when this whole thread is full of content with no herms after being tested originally. And I agree with @AlienAthena that there's no need for absolutes.
Instead of being so defensive, I was thinking this might help @AdvancedBuffalo since he found some nice cuts, and perhaps he might find it's the method, not the genetics so he can let us all know.
Good luck everyone. I wish you all well on your growing journey. We're all in this together. No need to bicker.