Is this good soil to grow outdoors?
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MustGro
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A lot of folks like Foxfarm's Happy Frog or Ocean Forest. You using seeds or bigger plants? Lots of cannabis specific soils are pretty hot and can burn seeds up before they get big enough to use the nutes. The OF is a hot one, so is the Kryptonite brand; but they work well if you have biggish plants.
They're also not that cheap to buy if you want a good one.
They're also not that cheap to buy if you want a good one.
xtsho
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rockethoe
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I just put em straight in the ground. It helps if you set up no till beds for them first. Less work than digging for old men too! I like to put a few bags of leaves down the winter or autumn before on my beds. Then come spring transplant the plants when they reach about 18". No digging, no soil buying, no nothing. When I grow sativa dominant, they can get to 12 ft height in that soil. it gets better every season.
MustGro
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Sure just don't add too much. 10 maybe up to 20% of the mix could be worm casts. They're real heavy.
yobdub
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Fox farm is good stuff. It is Hot. I make blend of about 5 OF/2 MG/1 ground up perlite For overall grows. Seems to work well now and many years ago.
Dont put any seedlings or baby clones in hot soil (unless fully root developed). I try to use something like FF happy frog and vermiculite or similar seed planting medium in small area in my good hot soil in the middle where I’m planting the babies. 4x4 x5 deep. Don’t want those young roots getting into hot soil anytime soon. They will find their way into the good stuff after growing up some.
don’t need any voodoo and such.
God made plants this way.
Less is better most of the time. Patience is your best friend( but I have none)
read up on it. Don’t overwater and wait. Tend your garden.
super luck to you.
Dont put any seedlings or baby clones in hot soil (unless fully root developed). I try to use something like FF happy frog and vermiculite or similar seed planting medium in small area in my good hot soil in the middle where I’m planting the babies. 4x4 x5 deep. Don’t want those young roots getting into hot soil anytime soon. They will find their way into the good stuff after growing up some.
don’t need any voodoo and such.
God made plants this way.
Less is better most of the time. Patience is your best friend( but I have none)
read up on it. Don’t overwater and wait. Tend your garden.
super luck to you.
waterproof808
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I've always had the worst results with Kelloggs soil.
Willy B. Goode
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You can't go wrong with compost. I started with the stuff available for free at my town recycling center where people bring their yard waste. It gets turned with an earth mover every week or so. The only issues with it are rocks, pine cones, chunks of wood and other assorted crap which is a PITA to screen. I ended up using a little screened as a base and started composting my own leaves and grass clippings as well as kitchen scraps (no apple cores or corncobs or any corn as that attracts deer) and my used FFOF. Didn't take long before I had that black gold with a mini worm farm inside
. I turn it once a week and each time I see lots of redworms and a few big nightcrawlers. If only I could find a way to get just their poop out for castings. I mix it with vermiculite, about 70/30 compost/verm. and about 60/40 FFOF/compost mix. You can find tons of examples of DIY compost bins online.
xtsho
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I compost almost everything. Branches and stuff from trimming trees goes in the recycle bin they pick up every couple of weeks.You can't go wrong with compost. I started with the stuff available for free at my town recycling center where people bring their yard waste. It gets turned with an earth mover every week or so. The only issues with it are rocks, pine cones, chunks of wood and other assorted crap which is a PITA to screen. I ended up using a little screened as a base and started composting my own leaves and grass clippings as well as kitchen scraps (no apple cores or corncobs or any corn as that attracts deer) and my used FFOF. Didn't take long before I had that black gold with a mini worm farm inside
Here the City of Portland collects the yard debris and composts it. But they don't give it away. They sell it. I've never gotten any as I don't trust it. You don't know what people sprayed on their yard, it's probably full of weed seeds, and it's likely full of dog crap. I know that's where my dogs messes go. Right into the yard debris bin and I know I'm not the only one doing that. Then there are all the rocks and other crap that people toss into those bins.
But everything, grass clippings, leaves, food scraps except meat goes into my pile. I just pulled all my pea plants up and those went right into the compost as will all other plant material that's compostable. Actually most of my food scraps go into a ghetto worm bin. It's just a 30 gallon plastic trash can. As the worms eat the scraps they move to the top leaving behind EWC. When it gets filled to the top I scoop the worms out, dump what's left, put some shredded newspaper or brown garbage sacs down, about an inch of soil, then I put the worms back in, another layer of shredded paper, and start adding food scraps. The plants love what I get out of that cheap ghetto worm bin.
xtsho
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Most of it is more like bark dust and wood chips than soil. I made a mistake and bought a couple of the big bales they sell claiming it's container soil. It was like 80% wood. Haven't bought any since and never will. Years ago they were using sewage treatment plant sludge but have apparently stopped that practice after they were exposed. But that stuff is in many bags of cheap brands of compost, soil conditioners, and even potting soil.