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DIY-HP-LED
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The longer he waits the worse the deal he will get, they generally don't call the targets of an investigation to testify at the grand jury. In NY they get immunity for it and no 5th amendment protection, but just on their testimony. I think they are going after the organization as a criminal enterprise, NY's version of RICO, it puts all the executives of the Trump organization on the hook for Trump's crimes. Since it's work related, Trump should be paying their legal bills too, those legal expenses are gonna add up fast and ruin many of them financially.
captainmorgan
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captainmorgan
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Rudy lost his law license LOL.
DIY-HP-LED
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He was unemployable anyway, only a desperate moron would have him as a lawyer and one did.
topcat
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And Individual 1 will flee to Russia.
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DIY-HP-LED
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That might end up being better for America than him going to prison, it would add to the pile of shit on republican's faces.
printer
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Trump Schedules July 3 Rally in Florida
Former President Donald Trump will hold a rally “to celebrate America” on July 3 in Sarasota, Fla., Trump’s Save America PAC announced Thursday.
Trump will hold his first post-White House rally Saturday in Wellington, Ohio, one of several signature gatherings in the upcoming weeks.
The rally at the Lorain County Fair, about a 40-minute drive from Cleveland, will be the first time Trump addresses supporters in such a setting since the Jan. 6 rally in Washington D.C. before the attack on the U.S. Capitol, the New York Post reported.
The Ohio rally is meant to boost the House campaign of former Trump adviser Max Miller, who is challenging Rep. Anthony Gonzalez, R-Ohio. Gonzalez was one of 10 House Republicans who voted to impeach Trump after the Capitol assault.
The Save America statement said the July 3 rally, co-sponsored by the Republican Party of Florida, would be held at the Sarasota Fairgrounds and include “a HUGE fireworks show to celebrate America following President Trump’s remarks to conclude a full day event commemorating our Great Country!“
www.newsmax.com
Need a fireworks display to drag them in? Wonder if the Florida one will see him saying how much he feels for the people in the collapsed building, seeing he is a building guy? Maybe he could get the land cheap?
Former President Donald Trump will hold a rally “to celebrate America” on July 3 in Sarasota, Fla., Trump’s Save America PAC announced Thursday.
Trump will hold his first post-White House rally Saturday in Wellington, Ohio, one of several signature gatherings in the upcoming weeks.
The rally at the Lorain County Fair, about a 40-minute drive from Cleveland, will be the first time Trump addresses supporters in such a setting since the Jan. 6 rally in Washington D.C. before the attack on the U.S. Capitol, the New York Post reported.
The Ohio rally is meant to boost the House campaign of former Trump adviser Max Miller, who is challenging Rep. Anthony Gonzalez, R-Ohio. Gonzalez was one of 10 House Republicans who voted to impeach Trump after the Capitol assault.
The Save America statement said the July 3 rally, co-sponsored by the Republican Party of Florida, would be held at the Sarasota Fairgrounds and include “a HUGE fireworks show to celebrate America following President Trump’s remarks to conclude a full day event commemorating our Great Country!“
Trump Schedules July 3 Rally in Florida
Former President Donald Trump will hold a rally "to celebrate America" on July 3 in Sarasota, Fla., Trump's Save America PAC announced Thursday.
Need a fireworks display to drag them in? Wonder if the Florida one will see him saying how much he feels for the people in the collapsed building, seeing he is a building guy? Maybe he could get the land cheap?
DIY-HP-LED
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Let's see, most of his supporters are unvaccinated and don't wear masks with the delta variant increasing weekly, sounds like a summer of super spreader events! The great Trumper die off, as Donald leaves a trail of death and misery across red state America, MADA- Make America Die Again! Join Donald for his death ride across rural America with Donald's Delta Death Tour of 2021. Everybody wearing a red MAGA hat gets a free glass of Koolaid!Trump Schedules July 3 Rally in Florida
Former President Donald Trump will hold a rally “to celebrate America” on July 3 in Sarasota, Fla., Trump’s Save America PAC announced Thursday.
Trump will hold his first post-White House rally Saturday in Wellington, Ohio, one of several signature gatherings in the upcoming weeks.
The rally at the Lorain County Fair, about a 40-minute drive from Cleveland, will be the first time Trump addresses supporters in such a setting since the Jan. 6 rally in Washington D.C. before the attack on the U.S. Capitol, the New York Post reported.
The Ohio rally is meant to boost the House campaign of former Trump adviser Max Miller, who is challenging Rep. Anthony Gonzalez, R-Ohio. Gonzalez was one of 10 House Republicans who voted to impeach Trump after the Capitol assault.
The Save America statement said the July 3 rally, co-sponsored by the Republican Party of Florida, would be held at the Sarasota Fairgrounds and include “a HUGE fireworks show to celebrate America following President Trump’s remarks to conclude a full day event commemorating our Great Country!“
Trump Schedules July 3 Rally in Florida
Former President Donald Trump will hold a rally "to celebrate America" on July 3 in Sarasota, Fla., Trump's Save America PAC announced Thursday.
Need a fireworks display to drag them in? Wonder if the Florida one will see him saying how much he feels for the people in the collapsed building, seeing he is a building guy? Maybe he could get the land cheap?
captainmorgan
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Pence publicly saying he was proud to certify the election and saying it's un-American to try to over turn the results makes me think he knows something bad is on it's way for Stinky.
printer
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But Pence is a traitor and should have been hanged that day.
‘Traitor!’ Pence Faces Hecklers During Conservative Christian Summit
Former Vice President Mike Pence remarks during the conservative Faith & Freedom conference on Friday were briefly disrupted by hecklers, likely over his refusal to help former President Donald Trump overturn his 2020 election loss.
www.forbes.com
I just find it so odd that these people do not realize they are sharing the country and that running it is a compromise.
‘Traitor!’ Pence Faces Hecklers During Conservative Christian Summit
Former Vice President Mike Pence remarks during the conservative Faith & Freedom conference on Friday were briefly disrupted by hecklers, likely over his refusal to help former President Donald Trump overturn his 2020 election loss.
‘Traitor!’ Pence Faces Hecklers During Conservative Christian Summit
Pence has said he ‘may never see eye to eye’ with Trump on the Jan. 6 attack after certifying Biden’s victory, angering the ex-president’s supporters.
www.forbes.com
I just find it so odd that these people do not realize they are sharing the country and that running it is a compromise.
captainmorgan
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Maybe this is why Pence is so patriotic all of a sudden.
The Manhattan DA’s office has informed Donald Trump’s lawyers it is considering CRIMINAL charges against Trump Org in connection with fringe benefits Trump Org allegedly gave a top executive but didn’t pay taxes on.
The Manhattan DA’s office has informed Donald Trump’s lawyers it is considering CRIMINAL charges against Trump Org in connection with fringe benefits Trump Org allegedly gave a top executive but didn’t pay taxes on.
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Trump Organization Could Face Criminal Charges in D.A. Inquiry - The New York Times (nytimes.com)
Trump Organization Could Face Criminal Charges in D.A. Inquiry
An indictment of the Trump Organization could mark the first criminal charges to emerge from an investigation by the Manhattan district attorney into Donald J. Trump and his business dealings.
The Manhattan district attorney’s office has informed Donald J. Trump’s lawyers that it is considering criminal charges against his family business, the Trump Organization, in connection with fringe benefits the company awarded a top executive, according to several people with knowledge of the matter.
If the case moves ahead, the district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance Jr., could announce charges against the Trump Organization and the executive, Allen H. Weisselberg, as soon as next week, the people said.
The criminal charges would be the first to emerge from Mr. Vance’s long-running investigation into Mr. Trump and his business dealings, and raise the startling prospect of a former president having to defend the company he founded and has run for decades.
While the prosecutors had been building a case for months against Mr. Weisselberg, the Trump Organization’s chief financial officer, as part of an effort to pressure him to cooperate with the inquiry, it was not previously known that the company also might face charges.
Prosecutors recently have focused much of their investigation into the perks Mr. Trump and the company doled out to Mr. Weisselberg and other executives, including tens of thousands of dollars in private school tuition for one of Mr. Weisselberg’s grandchildren, as well as rents on apartments and car leases.
Prosecutors are looking into whether those benefits were properly recorded in the company’s ledgers and whether taxes were paid on them, The New York Times has reported.
Mr. Trump’s lawyers met on Thursday with senior prosecutors in the district attorney’s office in hopes of persuading them to abandon any plan to charge the company, according to several people familiar with the meeting. Such meetings are routine in white-collar criminal investigations, and it is unclear whether the prosecutors have made a final decision on whether to charge the Trump Organization, which has long denied wrongdoing.
It would be highly unusual to indict a company just for failing to pay taxes on fringe benefits, said several lawyers who specialize in tax rules. None of them could cite any recent example, noting that many companies provide their employees with perks like company cars.
Still, an indictment of Mr. Trump’s company could deal a significant blow to the former president just as he has flirted with a return to politics.
It is unclear whether Mr. Trump will ultimately face charges himself. The investigation, which began three years ago, has been wide-ranging, examining whether the Trump Organization manipulated the value of its properties to obtain favorable loans and tax benefits, people with knowledge of the matter have said.
The inquiry is also examining the organization’s statements to insurance companies about the value of various assets and any role that its employees — including Mr. Weisselberg — may have played in hush-money payments to two women during the 2016 presidential campaign.
Mr. Trump has derided the investigation by Mr. Vance, a Democrat, as a politically motivated “witch hunt.” He unsuccessfully tried to fight a subpoena from Mr. Vance’s office seeking eight years of his personal and corporate tax returns, a fight that twice reached the United States Supreme Court.
A spokesman for the district attorney’s office declined to comment on Friday. A lawyer for Mr. Weisselberg, Mary E. Mulligan, also declined to comment. A spokeswoman for the Trump Organization could not immediately be reached for comment.
The meeting on Thursday between Mr. Trump’s lawyers and the prosecutors, held on a video call and lasting more than an hour and a half, was arranged byRonald P. Fischetti, a personal lawyer for Mr. Trump. Mr. Fischetti is a former law partner of Mark F. Pomerantz, a former federal prosecutor and defense lawyer whom the district attorney’s office enlisted to help lead the inquiry into Mr. Trump and his business.
In the coming days, Mr. Trump’s lawyers might still argue that any charges against the company could take a serious financial toll. Criminal charges, even against private companies like the Trump Organization, can threaten reputations and relationships with banks and business partners.
Companies, like people, can be tried for crimes, and if they are convicted or plead guilty, they can face fines and other penalties.
The indictments could increase pressure to cooperate on Mr. Weisselberg, who could seek to cut a deal with prosecutors to testify against Mr. Trump in exchange for leniency.
Mr. Weisselberg’s intimate knowledge of the Trump Organization — he has worked at the company for decades and was one of the top executives when Mr. Trump was in the White House — would make his cooperation an enormous asset to investigators looking at all aspects of the company. Because of that, he has been a central focus of scrutiny in the district attorney’s investigation, with particular attention paid to the benefits that he and his family received.
In general, those types of benefits are taxable, although there are some exceptions, and the rules can be murky.
Mr. Trump depends heavily on Mr. Weisselberg, who has continued to work at the Trump Organization while under investigation. In his book “Think Like a Billionaire,” the former president credited Mr. Weisselberg for doing “whatever was necessary to protect the bottom line.”
And few things grate at Mr. Trump like the prospect of disloyalty. Close allies have turned on him in the past, including his former personal lawyer and fixer, Michael D. Cohen, whom Mr. Trump has labeled a “rat.”
Mr. Cohen, who pleaded guilty to federal charges related to hush money payments to two women who said they had romantic affairs with Mr. Trump, is cooperating with the Manhattan district attorney’s investigation. After pleading guilty, Mr. Cohen said that it was Mr. Weisselberg who had helped the Trump Organization to disguise the reimbursements that Mr. Cohen received for paying off one of the women.
Mr. Weisselberg was not accused of any wrongdoing by federal prosecutors, and Mr. Trump did not pardon him in his final days in office, though he was said to have considered doing so. (A pardon would not have given Mr. Weisselberg immunity from state charges.)
After Mr. Cohen pleaded guilty in 2018, Mr. Trump expressed confidence that Mr. Weisselberg had not turned on him.
“One hundred percent he didn’t,” Mr. Trump told reporters for Bloomberg. “He’s a wonderful guy.”
Mr. Weisselberg is, in certain respects, the polar opposite of his longtime boss. Discreet and unassuming, the financial chief has avoided attention even as he has brought his family into the former president’s orbit. One of his sons, Barry, was the property manager of Trump Wollman Rink in Central Park. Another, Jack, works at Ladder Capital, one of Mr. Trump’s lenders.
But Mr. Weisselberg has done his part to contribute to Mr. Trump’s aura of wealth and power. In 2005, when The New York Times attempted to determine how much money Mr. Trump had, Mr. Weisselberg provided a list of assets that he said would show that Mr. Trump was worth $6 billion.
When the list of assets appeared to add up to only $5 billion, Mr. Weisselberg excused himself.
“I’m going to go to my office and find that other billion,” he said.
Trump Organization Could Face Criminal Charges in D.A. Inquiry
An indictment of the Trump Organization could mark the first criminal charges to emerge from an investigation by the Manhattan district attorney into Donald J. Trump and his business dealings.
The Manhattan district attorney’s office has informed Donald J. Trump’s lawyers that it is considering criminal charges against his family business, the Trump Organization, in connection with fringe benefits the company awarded a top executive, according to several people with knowledge of the matter.
If the case moves ahead, the district attorney, Cyrus R. Vance Jr., could announce charges against the Trump Organization and the executive, Allen H. Weisselberg, as soon as next week, the people said.
The criminal charges would be the first to emerge from Mr. Vance’s long-running investigation into Mr. Trump and his business dealings, and raise the startling prospect of a former president having to defend the company he founded and has run for decades.
While the prosecutors had been building a case for months against Mr. Weisselberg, the Trump Organization’s chief financial officer, as part of an effort to pressure him to cooperate with the inquiry, it was not previously known that the company also might face charges.
Prosecutors recently have focused much of their investigation into the perks Mr. Trump and the company doled out to Mr. Weisselberg and other executives, including tens of thousands of dollars in private school tuition for one of Mr. Weisselberg’s grandchildren, as well as rents on apartments and car leases.
Prosecutors are looking into whether those benefits were properly recorded in the company’s ledgers and whether taxes were paid on them, The New York Times has reported.
Mr. Trump’s lawyers met on Thursday with senior prosecutors in the district attorney’s office in hopes of persuading them to abandon any plan to charge the company, according to several people familiar with the meeting. Such meetings are routine in white-collar criminal investigations, and it is unclear whether the prosecutors have made a final decision on whether to charge the Trump Organization, which has long denied wrongdoing.
It would be highly unusual to indict a company just for failing to pay taxes on fringe benefits, said several lawyers who specialize in tax rules. None of them could cite any recent example, noting that many companies provide their employees with perks like company cars.
Still, an indictment of Mr. Trump’s company could deal a significant blow to the former president just as he has flirted with a return to politics.
It is unclear whether Mr. Trump will ultimately face charges himself. The investigation, which began three years ago, has been wide-ranging, examining whether the Trump Organization manipulated the value of its properties to obtain favorable loans and tax benefits, people with knowledge of the matter have said.
The inquiry is also examining the organization’s statements to insurance companies about the value of various assets and any role that its employees — including Mr. Weisselberg — may have played in hush-money payments to two women during the 2016 presidential campaign.
Mr. Trump has derided the investigation by Mr. Vance, a Democrat, as a politically motivated “witch hunt.” He unsuccessfully tried to fight a subpoena from Mr. Vance’s office seeking eight years of his personal and corporate tax returns, a fight that twice reached the United States Supreme Court.
A spokesman for the district attorney’s office declined to comment on Friday. A lawyer for Mr. Weisselberg, Mary E. Mulligan, also declined to comment. A spokeswoman for the Trump Organization could not immediately be reached for comment.
The meeting on Thursday between Mr. Trump’s lawyers and the prosecutors, held on a video call and lasting more than an hour and a half, was arranged byRonald P. Fischetti, a personal lawyer for Mr. Trump. Mr. Fischetti is a former law partner of Mark F. Pomerantz, a former federal prosecutor and defense lawyer whom the district attorney’s office enlisted to help lead the inquiry into Mr. Trump and his business.
In the coming days, Mr. Trump’s lawyers might still argue that any charges against the company could take a serious financial toll. Criminal charges, even against private companies like the Trump Organization, can threaten reputations and relationships with banks and business partners.
Companies, like people, can be tried for crimes, and if they are convicted or plead guilty, they can face fines and other penalties.
The indictments could increase pressure to cooperate on Mr. Weisselberg, who could seek to cut a deal with prosecutors to testify against Mr. Trump in exchange for leniency.
Mr. Weisselberg’s intimate knowledge of the Trump Organization — he has worked at the company for decades and was one of the top executives when Mr. Trump was in the White House — would make his cooperation an enormous asset to investigators looking at all aspects of the company. Because of that, he has been a central focus of scrutiny in the district attorney’s investigation, with particular attention paid to the benefits that he and his family received.
In general, those types of benefits are taxable, although there are some exceptions, and the rules can be murky.
Mr. Trump depends heavily on Mr. Weisselberg, who has continued to work at the Trump Organization while under investigation. In his book “Think Like a Billionaire,” the former president credited Mr. Weisselberg for doing “whatever was necessary to protect the bottom line.”
And few things grate at Mr. Trump like the prospect of disloyalty. Close allies have turned on him in the past, including his former personal lawyer and fixer, Michael D. Cohen, whom Mr. Trump has labeled a “rat.”
Mr. Cohen, who pleaded guilty to federal charges related to hush money payments to two women who said they had romantic affairs with Mr. Trump, is cooperating with the Manhattan district attorney’s investigation. After pleading guilty, Mr. Cohen said that it was Mr. Weisselberg who had helped the Trump Organization to disguise the reimbursements that Mr. Cohen received for paying off one of the women.
Mr. Weisselberg was not accused of any wrongdoing by federal prosecutors, and Mr. Trump did not pardon him in his final days in office, though he was said to have considered doing so. (A pardon would not have given Mr. Weisselberg immunity from state charges.)
After Mr. Cohen pleaded guilty in 2018, Mr. Trump expressed confidence that Mr. Weisselberg had not turned on him.
“One hundred percent he didn’t,” Mr. Trump told reporters for Bloomberg. “He’s a wonderful guy.”
Mr. Weisselberg is, in certain respects, the polar opposite of his longtime boss. Discreet and unassuming, the financial chief has avoided attention even as he has brought his family into the former president’s orbit. One of his sons, Barry, was the property manager of Trump Wollman Rink in Central Park. Another, Jack, works at Ladder Capital, one of Mr. Trump’s lenders.
But Mr. Weisselberg has done his part to contribute to Mr. Trump’s aura of wealth and power. In 2005, when The New York Times attempted to determine how much money Mr. Trump had, Mr. Weisselberg provided a list of assets that he said would show that Mr. Trump was worth $6 billion.
When the list of assets appeared to add up to only $5 billion, Mr. Weisselberg excused himself.
“I’m going to go to my office and find that other billion,” he said.
DIY-HP-LED
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They could charge the company as a criminal enterprise as early as next week. Perhaps the sharks do smell blood in the water...
captainmorgan
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RICO
DIY-HP-LED
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Another guy who likes tormenting Donald while doing quality time at his Park Ave NYC address, Mikey is doing great prison time at home, on TV a lot, selling books and talking to the DA.
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Michael Cohen Suggests Manhattan DA Already Has Evidence to Charge (businessinsider.com)
Michael Cohen suggests Manhattan prosecutors already have all the material they need for criminal charges, even if Trump Org. executives don't flip
Donald Trump's former lawyer and fixer addressed the ongoing criminal investigations into the Trump Organization on "Jimmy Kimmel Live" on Thursday.
New York Attorney General Letitia James and Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr. are both conducting criminal investigations into whether the Trump Organization, the umbrella company for Trump's businesses, falsified financial information for tax, loan, or insurance purposes.
The company's CFO, Allen Weisselberg, has come under increasing pressure to cooperate with investigators, The Washington Post reported, and he could face criminal charges in weeks. The Wall Street Journal also reported this week that the Manhattan DA was investigating whether the company's COO, Matthew Calamari, received tax-free perks.
When asked whether he thought Trump would face justice, Cohen told Kimmel: "When it comes to the Department of Justice — and I've said this in many, many tweets — the wheels of justice turn slowly, but eventually they do turn full circle.
"Understand that you're not just fighting anybody. You're fighting someone who has money behind him and also has the former power of the president of the United States."
"And so he's going to fight like the dog that he is," Cohen said of his former boss.
"But here's where I say that he's in trouble. He's in trouble, Allen Weisselberg's in trouble, Weisselberg's kids, Matt Calamari, Rudy Giuliani — they're all in trouble. Why? Because there's documentary evidence that's in" prosecutors' possession, he said.
Cohen continued: "They don't really need Weisselberg or Calamari. One of them will flip to save themselves. And once you get Calamari, you don't need Weisselberg. When you get Weisselberg, you don't need Calamari.
"But the truth is, they don't need either of them because they have the documents to prove exactly the illegalities done by Trump."
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Michael Cohen Suggests Manhattan DA Already Has Evidence to Charge (businessinsider.com)
Michael Cohen suggests Manhattan prosecutors already have all the material they need for criminal charges, even if Trump Org. executives don't flip
- Trump's former lawyer and fixer Michael Cohen appeared on "Jimmy Kimmel Live" on Thursday.
- He said a Trump Organization executive would flip in the ongoing investigations into the company.
- But he said investigators likely have all the evidence they need to bring criminal charges anyway.
Donald Trump's former lawyer and fixer addressed the ongoing criminal investigations into the Trump Organization on "Jimmy Kimmel Live" on Thursday.
New York Attorney General Letitia James and Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus Vance Jr. are both conducting criminal investigations into whether the Trump Organization, the umbrella company for Trump's businesses, falsified financial information for tax, loan, or insurance purposes.
The company's CFO, Allen Weisselberg, has come under increasing pressure to cooperate with investigators, The Washington Post reported, and he could face criminal charges in weeks. The Wall Street Journal also reported this week that the Manhattan DA was investigating whether the company's COO, Matthew Calamari, received tax-free perks.
When asked whether he thought Trump would face justice, Cohen told Kimmel: "When it comes to the Department of Justice — and I've said this in many, many tweets — the wheels of justice turn slowly, but eventually they do turn full circle.
"Understand that you're not just fighting anybody. You're fighting someone who has money behind him and also has the former power of the president of the United States."
"And so he's going to fight like the dog that he is," Cohen said of his former boss.
"But here's where I say that he's in trouble. He's in trouble, Allen Weisselberg's in trouble, Weisselberg's kids, Matt Calamari, Rudy Giuliani — they're all in trouble. Why? Because there's documentary evidence that's in" prosecutors' possession, he said.
Cohen continued: "They don't really need Weisselberg or Calamari. One of them will flip to save themselves. And once you get Calamari, you don't need Weisselberg. When you get Weisselberg, you don't need Calamari.
"But the truth is, they don't need either of them because they have the documents to prove exactly the illegalities done by Trump."
DIY-HP-LED
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The NY version, it puts all the executives on the hook and when they roll that rock over there will be lot's of slimly things crawling around in the sunlight.
Sofa King Smoooth
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Suave
DIY-HP-LED
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Manhattan Prosecutors Reportedly Weighing Criminal Charges Against Trump Organization (forbes.com)
Manhattan Prosecutors Reportedly Weighing Criminal Charges Against Trump Organization
TOPLINE
The Manhattan district attorney could bring criminal charges against the Trump Organization and a top executive as soon as next week, the New York Times reported Friday, which would be the first charges to result from a years-long probe into former President Donald Trump’s business.
Manhattan Prosecutors Reportedly Weighing Criminal Charges Against Trump Organization
TOPLINE
The Manhattan district attorney could bring criminal charges against the Trump Organization and a top executive as soon as next week, the New York Times reported Friday, which would be the first charges to result from a years-long probe into former President Donald Trump’s business.