Miami Building Collapse

printer

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There are (at least) two towns named Miami. The one in Ohio isn't the one where the condo fell.
Darn, that slipped by me. I was reading the other document, which was for the right area. I thought it odd, I never heard of the Miami river in Miami, but what do I know about Miami? Good report though.
 

printer

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I heard on the news tonight that there were cracks in the parking garage. There was inspectors on site yesterday. Not sure if it was for the cracks, or to do with the upcoming 40 year checkup.
"The City of Surfside requires commercial and apartment buildings to be recertified every 40 years, which includes electrical and structural inspections in order to file a report with the City. City officials announced on Thursday that this process is underway for the building, but not yet completed.
Salzhauer said no serious complaints about the building had been made to the city. "If a building had serious problems, we would surely know," she said.
A 2015 lawsuit alleged building management failed to get an exterior wall, resulting in water damage and cracking. The owner who filed this lawsuit, Matilde Feinstein, had previously sued over the same matter, she said earlier in court. The management company paid damages in the previous case, she said."
Seems they were doing the recertification.
 

hanimmal

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This thread is a very good example of why strict government regulations are extremely important.

People cry 'small government', but this is what happens when we don't allow the people we elect to do the work for the nation to step up and do it right.
 

printer

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This thread is a very good example of why strict government regulations are extremely important.

People cry 'small government', but this is what happens when we don't allow the people we elect to do the work for the nation to step up and do it right.
I had an electrical licence. It was said every rule in the code handbook was in there because someone got hurt or killed. Some people do not realize that those in power do not want to make rules for the sake of making rules. Not to say that they are always good rules, the Electrical Code has had rules that changed one year and a few years changed back. Building codes are usually a minimum. And for an investment that you are going to sell as quickly as possible you are not going to go much above code.
 

injinji

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Darn, that slipped by me. I was reading the other document, which was for the right area. I thought it odd, I never heard of the Miami river in Miami, but what do I know about Miami? Good report though.
As a Nole fan I know about it because when Sports Center or some such mention the school from Ohio they always say Miami (of Ohio). And since all sport fans are trolls at heart, we always say Miami (of Florida).
 

schuylaar

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Florida is known for it's corruption in the building industry and government building inspectors. @printer may be claiming they cut corners to save money and caused the sink hole that brought down the building, they probably did.
yeah this was built in 1981 well before Hurricane Andrew standards; knowing that a huge contractor in Parkland used Chinese drywall and it all turned into black mold and those were the Uber wealthy they cut corners on..blog page with lots of inside info you won't get from the paper.

 

schuylaar

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But look, it mainly held together.
nobody survives the pancake. i remember a flight took off from FTL many years ago and slammed into the Everglades 4 ft of water..no survivors..no nothing..those people and that plane are still there.
 

printer

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Building On A Barrier Island
These accumulations of sand aren’t permanent but are home to whole communities
When I first learned about barrier islands, back in high school, I couldn’t believe that people would live on one. That’s because barrier islands aren’t permanent; they’re just accumulations of sand that form off the coast (many can be found on the U.S. East Coast). And it’s a natural state for these islands to grow and erode and get washed away. A strong enough storm can cut an island in half, as seen after Irene in the photo above, or take away the wide swath of beach that had been between homes and the ocean. What had been prime beachfront property one day can be open ocean the next.

And people can compound the problem. The point of buying beachfront property is to get a great view of the ocean, but destroying the sand dune to get closer to the beach eliminates the feature that protects the beach from erosion. In addition, building jetties and adding sand in attempts to keep an island stable can hasten erosion elsewhere. Building on a barrier island can also limit the island’s usefulness in protecting the mainland coast from powerful storms as well as eliminate important ecosystems, such as dunes and salt marshes.
 

potroastV2

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As a Nole fan I know about it because when Sports Center or some such mention the school from Ohio they always say Miami (of Ohio). And since all sport fans are trolls at heart, we always say Miami (of Florida).

There is no town in Ohio named Miami, although there is a Miami County.

The Miami University of Ohio is in Oxford, OH.


:mrgreen:
 

schuylaar

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This thread is a very good example of why strict government regulations are extremely important.

People cry 'small government', but this is what happens when we don't allow the people we elect to do the work for the nation to step up and do it right.
states rights!
 

schuylaar

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"The City of Surfside requires commercial and apartment buildings to be recertified every 40 years, which includes electrical and structural inspections in order to file a report with the City. City officials announced on Thursday that this process is underway for the building, but not yet completed.
Salzhauer said no serious complaints about the building had been made to the city. "If a building had serious problems, we would surely know," she said.
A 2015 lawsuit alleged building management failed to get an exterior wall, resulting in water damage and cracking. The owner who filed this lawsuit, Matilde Feinstein, had previously sued over the same matter, she said earlier in court. The management company paid damages in the previous case, she said."
Seems they were doing the recertification.
they had a new $15M assessment on the condo owners to bring to code for 2021. a new hi-rise had recently been installed nearby and when they were installing the pylons it made their building shake and residents had complained. i'm sure it didn't help an already ailing building.

it's easier to pay off a resident for cosmetic than to really fix until inspection time.
 

Rob Roy

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This thread is a very good example of why strict government regulations are extremely important.

People cry 'small government', but this is what happens when we don't allow the people we elect to do the work for the nation to step up and do it right.

Next you'll be cheering the lawn police for arresting Granny for not mowing her lawn often enough.
 
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