May want to read this before buying from Black dog Led

OSBuds

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Can you recommend a light that hits that number?
3.0 μmol/J efficacy
 

farmingfisherman

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3.0 μmol/J efficacy
Not for folks that aren't running CO2 unless you like dimming down a driver and possibly creating more heat.
 

Sofa King Smoooth

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The very first light I bought was a black dog phytomax 200 LED.if you're not familiar these lights they are handmade supposedly high-quality products based out of Colorado. the light was approximately $650 for 200 Watts.ran the light for a single plant grow everything went fine but realized I needed more lighting for my space and I ordered the timber 4vl3500 k. I have been using the Timber without issue but decided to use the black dog on another single plant run.installed the Lite and got the grow running and noticed that one quadrant of the light board was not working and one of the three fans had failed.I swapped in the timber and I'm currently Trucking along but just wanted to give this as a warning to anyone looking at buying from Black Dog Led. after communicating with their service department they informed me that I would be responsible for all shipping cost and labor and that they would Supply any parts necessary to correct the problem .I don't disagree with their warranty and I understand they are running a business but if their light is only good for one single plant run before it fails I certainly would never buy from them again and don't feel that I should be liable for any cost to repair such an expensive lite with so few hours. I really hate to leave a poor review but if it helps someone else from wasting their money then it's worth it
I'm guessing they can't afford to repair it.

No way they are making money with all the better options available now.
 
What’s your option of your uv diodes burning out quicker than the rest?

Yes sir I have a apogee metre which registers light plants can use and the BD was no better than the cheaper quieter Mars.
I also have lux meter which measures what our eyes can see and the BD losses again lol
Why would you measure what your eyes can see. Are you looking for lights that look good to eyes or lights that help plants grow?
 

Fatleg77

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The least One of these shills can do is get your light replaced and try to save face with some customer service.
I just want to reiterate that I was happy with everything initially and I don't want to make this sound like I'm just bashing black dog because I do think they have good customer service and their light was a seemingly great product Its just that for such an expensive supposably well-made product I'm quite disappointed that it has failed under such a tiny amount of run time. A very nice guy responded to my email and explained to me that they have no way to determine the runtime on the light and I understand that. I don't expect black dog to make this right I just want to share my experience so someone can make a better choice when they spend their money
 

Sofa King Smoooth

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I just want to reiterate that I was happy with everything initially and I don't want to make this sound like I'm just bashing black dog because I do think they have good customer service and their light was a seemingly great product Its just that for such an expensive supposably well-made product I'm quite disappointed that it has failed under such a tiny amount of run time. A very nice guy responded to my email and explained to me that they have no way to determine the runtime on the light and I understand that. I don't expect black dog to make this right I just want to share my experience so someone can make a better choice when they spend their money
Understand completely.

Oddly enough there happens to be another user with a grow journal that has a user name with eerily similar vibes as the 2 that answered you here.

He uses black dog LEDs. Lots of them. Probably has a hook up with them.
 

WubbaLubbaDubDub

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Why would you measure what your eyes can see. Are you looking for lights that look good to eyes or lights that help plants grow?
Well if you have both meters you use them to get a base point of data.
Sorry I have nice equipment guy

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BD doesn’t have much usable light for plants and just as little visual light to the human eye. BlackDog is not what plants crave
 
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I just want to reiterate that I was happy with everything initially and I don't want to make this sound like I'm just bashing black dog because I do think they have good customer service and their light was a seemingly great product Its just that for such an expensive supposably well-made product I'm quite disappointed that it has failed under such a tiny amount of run time. A very nice guy responded to my email and explained to me that they have no way to determine the runtime on the light and I understand that. I don't expect black dog to make this right I just want to share my experience so someone can make a better choice when they spend their money
Yeah it's just that after 3 years you have to pay for the shipping but all parts and labor is covered. Drivers can fail there's no way around it and it is frustrating. I'm happy to help you.
 
Understand completely.

Oddly enough there happens to be another user with a grow journal that has a user name with eerily similar vibes as the 2 that answered you here.

He uses black dog LEDs. Lots of them. Probably has a hook up with them.
YES!!! I'm just trying to help man. I'm not trying to fight with anyone and argue over grow techniques and lights. I DO care about a fellow grower having an issue with Black Dog and simply trying to help.
 
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