feminized seeds vs regular opinions please

FidelCa$hflow

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Hello,
just wanting a few opinions on wether to risk buying some quality non feminized seeds? I just have a small grow, 4 plant max space available. If bad luck strikes I could end up only running 1 plant or worse 0. Where as feminized is a sure thing.
Thoughts appreciated
Grow fems. Your limited numbers dont allow for males. Also, m/f seeds are not much cheaper if at all at least from my seedbank. Sometimes theyre more… good luck.
 

hillbill

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The price difference has become minimal in some lines. Has me thinking about girls. I have run 8 to 10 seeds from reputable breeders that were all boys. With complex hybreeds in America these days, I consistently run under 50% female and have for several years.
 

K81.UK

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I just spent £160 on a pack of regs for the first time. Hoping to get a keeper.

Is it possible to get plants sex tested in the U.K.? Are the home kits good?

Taking cuttings then, putting them on 12/12 just to sex the plants is something I’m not looking forward to.
 

Humble_Budlings

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Back again with questions and thoughts.
I am curious if growers have had issues with high male to female ratios in their regular seeds? I bought 2 strains of regular seeds from a reputable breed/ grower for a high price of $100 for 10 seeds. I planted 4 seeds of each strain and ended up with 8 males. Thus $80 for males and no females. I had hoped to perpetuate these strains and get more seeds to work with. Luck of the draw I know but...
As such, my feeling is regular seeds should be half the price of fem seeds being as statistically one should have a 50/ 50 chance of males versus female. In my case I ended up with 100/ 0 males versus female and not sure I will ever buy seeds from that breeder again with such high ratios of males.
I grew other breeder seeds side by side with the pricey breeder and got the typical 50/ 50 ratio of males/ females so it was not technique but the seeds themselves.
Before fem seeds were popular, people would be popping 3 or 4 times the numbers they needed... Especially when producing the seeds themselves in the garden, because it's nice to have a pick of the litter.

As for the pack of boys, it just happens. I got one of those in dominian gear this year, and dominian is a stand-by.

I would personally pay more for regular seed, because it has the potential to be line bred.
 

MustGro

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I haven't grown a regular seed in a long time but I still have lots stashed away. I use feminized exclusively these days; I read that they make a bigger bud.
Copied this from Royal Queen Seed's site:
Can't say I agree that fems are hard to clone; I clone them.


Regular seed:
PROSCONS
Required for breeding and creating new strainsCan be unpredictable; germinating seeds is a gamble regarding sex
Even chance of producing male and female plantsVisual perception motor disabilities
Produce vigorous cuttings ideal for making healthy clonesAccidental males in the grow room can lead to the fertilisation of flowers
Breeders can create a pollen bank using male plantsRequires growers to set up separate grow tents or greenhouses for male and female plants
Wide variety of different strains available—both classic and modern genetics


Feminized seed:
PROSCONS
Almost guaranteed to produce female plantsAren’t suitable for breeding purposes
Eliminate the 50:50 genetic gambleProduce less viable clones; growers need to start from seed in most cases
Ideal for growers looking for nothing but dank budsCan sometimes turn into hermaphrodites due to bad genetics or environmental stress
Streamline the growing process and are cost-effective-


Might as well throw in the Autos too since I'm there:
PROSCONS
No need to change the light cycleLower yield
Small and compactTypically less THC; not as potent as most photoperiod strains
Usually higher in CBDDifficult to clone
Rapid flowering times-
Hardy genetics make them easy to grow and beginner-friendly-
Ideal for guerrilla growing-
 

Boreal Curing

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If you want to have a little fun, reverse a female, and watch the phenotypes emerge from the seeds. Find a keeper and start cloning.
 

Funkentelechy

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I am curious if growers have had issues with high male to female ratios in their regular seeds? I bought 2 strains of regular seeds from a reputable breed/ grower for a high price of $100 for 10 seeds. I planted 4 seeds of each strain and ended up with 8 males.
It's just the luck of the draw, I recently germinated four Reg Purple Hindu Kush seeds and all four ended up being females.
 

curious2garden

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The price difference has become minimal in some lines. Has me thinking about girls. I have run 8 to 10 seeds from reputable breeders that were all boys. With complex hybreeds in America these days, I consistently run under 50% female and have for several years.
I have one strain that I ran an F2 table of and now I'm getting 90% males on germination. They are going to get S1'd soon, Good strain but I don't need the males.
 

Funkentelechy

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I know a few people who say reg seed grows better weed.
I've heard this too, I can't say that I believe it, but I don't 100% disbelieve it. I've also never seen any evidence that would support the theory that either is superior to the other.

As always the best option is always the one that fits your needs best. I say do what works best for your situation and for a lot of people feminized is the way to go. On the other hand, all my favorite breeders sell only regular seeds, I would hate to not have access to those lines, and I maintain that if you have the space and resources learning how to sex plants is a skill that every grower should learn at least once as it opens up more options.

To me, it's a little like learning to drive a manual car, it's a valuable skill to learn because then you aren't limited by only being able to buy automatics.
 

ComfortCreator

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Is this the place you speak of?
I do not see anything for testing and I see the prices are quite a bit higher than elsewhere.
That was a miscommunication. They have a great suggestion for quality SEEDS in Canada.

You want some help with finding a testing facility that can sex your plants early in veg.
 

HobbyGrower72

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Growers grow feminized
Breeders grow regular

If I want to make fem seeds, I'd do so with reg-seed fem. I'd also grow reg seeds to find a select male to harvest pollen. With fem seeds, I get to see more expressions because they're all fem. So, depends on what you end goal. Just want some fire product? Go fem. Wanna breed or make your own reg seeds? Go reg.
 

Boreal Curing

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You can test for sex but not potency. You'll have to rely on the Breeder's honesty.

Your best bet is to look at someone's grow online. They'll usually mention the strain, but you might have to ask for the breeder. The downside is the batch may be different. Still, you can get great strains just by reading people's journals. But it's still a crapshoot. I did that for wedding cake and the buds were marbles. Nice weed, but terrible bag appeal. And I fucking hate trimming tiny buds, so most of it went in the hash bin.

You've seen people mention A Keeper. That's why. Find one for you, and keep it going.
 

curious2garden

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Staff member
Growers grow feminized
Breeders grow regular

If I want to make fem seeds, I'd do so with reg-seed fem. I'd also grow reg seeds to find a select male to harvest pollen. With fem seeds, I get to see more expressions because they're all fem. So, depends on what you end goal. Just want some fire product? Go fem. Wanna breed or make your own reg seeds? Go reg.
I'm a breeder. I'm currently finishing an S1 of a Wedding Cake jackpot pheno prior to that I reversed a Special Occasion, her high was not for the faint of heart I refer to her as stroke weed. I will be passing those seeds along to someone else.

Anyway I breed with both feminized and regular seeds and have found zero difference between them for breeding purposes.

Next you get more genetic expression when you add in a male or reverse a female on an entire table. You are limiting your genetic expression if you only reversing part of 1 plant and taking seeds from the same plant.
 

curious2garden

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Staff member
.....snip.............
Nirvana seeds is slow (6weeks) to deliver last time I bought, but damn best GG4 bud I've ever seen. I haven't heard anything bad about their genetics.
I have grown Nirvana seeds. I found them to be a decent high, hardy plants and nice producers. I've found much better genetics but they are solid and good at an excellent price point. I have a cut of the original GG#4 I reversed and within 10 seeds found her again. So if they reversed that cut it would be very good indeed.
 

Observe & Report

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The whole "fems aren't suitable for breeding" is 100% utter bullshit. Fems are indistinguishable from the females in regular packs.

Fems are better because both parents are fire instead of a fire female and a questionable male. Male selection is a complete joke.
 
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