Will You Take The Vaccine?
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Budley Doright
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Sad to hear. I personally don’t know anyone who has got covid but I still received my second shot last week. I almost look at it like it’s a duty to keep myself and others safe. The less we need to use our health care the better for everyone who really needs it.
shattascam
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I'm vaxxed and I still wear my badass pot leaf mask most of the time in stores and stuff, people look at me like I'm an idiot. But alas, the field in which I sow the fucks I give is barren. Wearing a mask is sexier than catching or spreading an illness with permanent health consequences
captainmorgan
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This moron was a young healthy ER nurse, she died of covid Saturday.
captainmorgan
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The teachings of Long COVID - Communications Medicine
Alwan discusses the lessons learnt over the past year regarding Long COVID, prolonged illness resulting from SARS-CoV-2 infection, and their implications for public health policy and disease management, drawing insight form her own lived experience, research, and advocacy work with Long COVID.
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DIY-HP-LED
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"In a recent opinion essay for The Daily Beast, Preston Padden, a former high-level executive at Fox Broadcasting, wrote that Fox News had “contributed substantially and directly” to “the unnecessary deaths of many Americans by fueling hesitation and doubt about the efficacy and safety of lifesaving COVID-19 vaccines.” He singled out the channel’s prime-time opinion programs for blame".
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Despite Outbreaks Among Unvaccinated, Fox News Hosts Smear Shots (yahoo.com)
Despite Outbreaks Among Unvaccinated, Fox News Hosts Smear Shots
Back in December, before the queen of England and the president-elect of the United States had their turns, media mogul Rupert Murdoch received a dose of a COVID-19 vaccine. Afterward, he urged everyone else to get it, too.
Since then, a different message has been a repeated refrain on the prime-time shows hosted by Tucker Carlson and Laura Ingraham on Murdoch’s Fox News Channel — a message at odds with the recommendations of health experts, even as the virus’s delta variant and other mutations fuel outbreaks in areas where vaccination rates are below the national average.
Carlson, Ingraham and guests on their programs have said on the air that the vaccines could be dangerous, that people are justified in refusing them and that public authorities have overstepped in their attempts to deliver them.
Carlson and Ingraham last week criticized a plan by the Biden administration to increase vaccinations by having health care workers and volunteers go door to door to try to persuade the reluctant to get shots.
“Going door-to-door?” Ingraham said. “This is creepy stuff.”
Carlson, the highest-rated Fox News host, with an average of 2.9 million viewers, said the Biden plan was an attempt to “force people to take medicine they don’t want or need.” He called the initiative “the greatest scandal in my lifetime, by far.”
Carlson’s guest on that episode, veteran Fox News political analyst Brit Hume, pushed back slightly, saying, “What they’re trying to do is make it as easy as possible for people to get the vaccine and, for people who are hesitant, to perhaps encourage them that they have nothing to fear.” Hume was quick to add that “vaccines do have side effects” and said those who are hesitant “should be respected.”
Opposition to vaccines was once relegated to the fringes of American politics, and the rhetoric on Fox News has coincided with efforts by right-wing extremists to bash vaccination efforts.
Served up to an audience that is more likely than the general population to be wary of COVID vaccines, the remarks by Carlson and Ingraham echoed a now-common conservative talking point: that the government-led effort to raise vaccination rates amounted to a violation of civil liberties and a waste of taxpayer dollars.
The comments by the Fox News hosts and their guests may have also helped cement vaccine skepticism in the conservative mainstream, even as the Biden administration’s campaign to inoculate the public is running into resistance in many parts of the country.
Public health experts have said that a strong vaccination effort is critical for the United States to outrun the virus, which has killed more than 4 million people worldwide and continues to mutate.
The amplification of vaccine skepticism through conservative media channels could harden the reluctance of those who might otherwise have been persuaded to get a shot, said Kathleen Hall Jamieson, a communications professor at the University of Pennsylvania.
“If you have constant exposure to an outlet that is raising vaccination hesitancy, raising questions about vaccinations, that is something to anchor you in your position that says, ‘I’m not going to take the vaccine,’ ” Jamieson said.
A Fox News spokesperson provided past statements by Carlson voicing his general support for vaccines. “I’ve had a million vaccines in my life, as we all have,” the host said on an April show. “I think vaccines are great.” The spokesperson also noted that Ingraham had spoken in favor of adults choosing to receive vaccines if they wanted them.
White House officials said Thursday that virtually all new coronavirus hospitalizations and deaths nationwide involved unvaccinated people. The five states with the worst outbreaks as of Wednesday had below-average vaccination rates; four of them voted for former President Donald Trump in the 2020 election.
Vaccine resistance was greater among Republicans than Democrats, according to an April study by the Public Religion Research Institute. Among Republicans who watch Fox News, 45% said they were hesitant or unwilling to get a COVID-19 shot, compared with 68% of viewers who watch the niche right-wing news channels Newsmax or One America News Network.
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Despite Outbreaks Among Unvaccinated, Fox News Hosts Smear Shots (yahoo.com)
Despite Outbreaks Among Unvaccinated, Fox News Hosts Smear Shots
Back in December, before the queen of England and the president-elect of the United States had their turns, media mogul Rupert Murdoch received a dose of a COVID-19 vaccine. Afterward, he urged everyone else to get it, too.
Since then, a different message has been a repeated refrain on the prime-time shows hosted by Tucker Carlson and Laura Ingraham on Murdoch’s Fox News Channel — a message at odds with the recommendations of health experts, even as the virus’s delta variant and other mutations fuel outbreaks in areas where vaccination rates are below the national average.
Carlson, Ingraham and guests on their programs have said on the air that the vaccines could be dangerous, that people are justified in refusing them and that public authorities have overstepped in their attempts to deliver them.
Carlson and Ingraham last week criticized a plan by the Biden administration to increase vaccinations by having health care workers and volunteers go door to door to try to persuade the reluctant to get shots.
“Going door-to-door?” Ingraham said. “This is creepy stuff.”
Carlson, the highest-rated Fox News host, with an average of 2.9 million viewers, said the Biden plan was an attempt to “force people to take medicine they don’t want or need.” He called the initiative “the greatest scandal in my lifetime, by far.”
Carlson’s guest on that episode, veteran Fox News political analyst Brit Hume, pushed back slightly, saying, “What they’re trying to do is make it as easy as possible for people to get the vaccine and, for people who are hesitant, to perhaps encourage them that they have nothing to fear.” Hume was quick to add that “vaccines do have side effects” and said those who are hesitant “should be respected.”
Opposition to vaccines was once relegated to the fringes of American politics, and the rhetoric on Fox News has coincided with efforts by right-wing extremists to bash vaccination efforts.
Served up to an audience that is more likely than the general population to be wary of COVID vaccines, the remarks by Carlson and Ingraham echoed a now-common conservative talking point: that the government-led effort to raise vaccination rates amounted to a violation of civil liberties and a waste of taxpayer dollars.
The comments by the Fox News hosts and their guests may have also helped cement vaccine skepticism in the conservative mainstream, even as the Biden administration’s campaign to inoculate the public is running into resistance in many parts of the country.
Public health experts have said that a strong vaccination effort is critical for the United States to outrun the virus, which has killed more than 4 million people worldwide and continues to mutate.
The amplification of vaccine skepticism through conservative media channels could harden the reluctance of those who might otherwise have been persuaded to get a shot, said Kathleen Hall Jamieson, a communications professor at the University of Pennsylvania.
“If you have constant exposure to an outlet that is raising vaccination hesitancy, raising questions about vaccinations, that is something to anchor you in your position that says, ‘I’m not going to take the vaccine,’ ” Jamieson said.
A Fox News spokesperson provided past statements by Carlson voicing his general support for vaccines. “I’ve had a million vaccines in my life, as we all have,” the host said on an April show. “I think vaccines are great.” The spokesperson also noted that Ingraham had spoken in favor of adults choosing to receive vaccines if they wanted them.
White House officials said Thursday that virtually all new coronavirus hospitalizations and deaths nationwide involved unvaccinated people. The five states with the worst outbreaks as of Wednesday had below-average vaccination rates; four of them voted for former President Donald Trump in the 2020 election.
Vaccine resistance was greater among Republicans than Democrats, according to an April study by the Public Religion Research Institute. Among Republicans who watch Fox News, 45% said they were hesitant or unwilling to get a COVID-19 shot, compared with 68% of viewers who watch the niche right-wing news channels Newsmax or One America News Network.
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CunningCanuk
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printer
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In China wearing a mask had continued on by some after SARS hit them. It is not unusual to see people wearing one on public transportation or in crowded areas. Not everyone does but nobody thinks differently if they meet someone with a mask on (previous to the Covid-19 pandemic).
DIY-HP-LED
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They should be declared a public health menace and be pulled from cable when the FCC regulates it and large scale social media like broadcasters.
They need to win an election or two for it to happen though, but at the rate the republicans are imploding, it might be possible, Donald is going down and might take them with him as he freaks out and squirms. Donald has fucked and destroyed anything he's ever had control over, couldn't manage his way out of a wet paper bag, the more control he has, the bigger the fuckup will be. He only had partial control of the American government and look what happened, he now has complete control over the GOP and will run them off a cliff. By the time the NY prosecutors are done, the Trump org will be destroyed and the assets confiscated, while Donald's ass rots in state prison. I dunno if Guinness keeps a record of how much legal shit one person can be in at the same time, but I'm pretty sure Donald will break it!
printer
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Newsmax host suggests vaccines 'against nature'
A Newsmax host suggested late last week that coronavirus vaccines may be “against nature” and asked a university professor if some deadly diseases are “supposed to wipe out a certain amount of people."
The remarks came while host Rob Schmitt was interviewing Peter McCullough, an associate professor in Texas A&M University's Department of Health and Kinesiology.
"You know, one thing I've always thought, and maybe you can guide me on this because, obviously, I'm not a doctor. But I've always thought about vaccines, and I always think about just nature and the way everything works. And I feel like a vaccination in a weird way is just generally kind of going against nature," Schmitt said.
"Like, I mean, if there is some disease out there — maybe there's just an ebb and flow to life where something's supposed to wipe out a certain amount of people, and that's just kind of the way evolution goes. Vaccines kind of stand in the way of that. Do you follow what I'm saying? Does that make sense to somebody in medicine?"
McCullough, who holds a Ph.D. in kinesiology, did not answer the question directly but said there isn't "any long-term data on the newer vaccines."
Earlier in the interview, Schmitt said he has "people in my family, very close to me, who I thought should get vaccinated because when you weigh the risks."
"But when it comes to vaccines in general, are you of the consensus that it could potentially take a long time to really know what a vaccination does to people in some cases?"
"Well, there are some reports that support what you're saying," McCullough responded, citing research that he said "shows among vaccinated populations the diversity of different strains is narrowing. So it's going to be fewer numbers of strains."
thehill.com
A Newsmax host suggested late last week that coronavirus vaccines may be “against nature” and asked a university professor if some deadly diseases are “supposed to wipe out a certain amount of people."
The remarks came while host Rob Schmitt was interviewing Peter McCullough, an associate professor in Texas A&M University's Department of Health and Kinesiology.
"You know, one thing I've always thought, and maybe you can guide me on this because, obviously, I'm not a doctor. But I've always thought about vaccines, and I always think about just nature and the way everything works. And I feel like a vaccination in a weird way is just generally kind of going against nature," Schmitt said.
"Like, I mean, if there is some disease out there — maybe there's just an ebb and flow to life where something's supposed to wipe out a certain amount of people, and that's just kind of the way evolution goes. Vaccines kind of stand in the way of that. Do you follow what I'm saying? Does that make sense to somebody in medicine?"
McCullough, who holds a Ph.D. in kinesiology, did not answer the question directly but said there isn't "any long-term data on the newer vaccines."
Earlier in the interview, Schmitt said he has "people in my family, very close to me, who I thought should get vaccinated because when you weigh the risks."
"But when it comes to vaccines in general, are you of the consensus that it could potentially take a long time to really know what a vaccination does to people in some cases?"
"Well, there are some reports that support what you're saying," McCullough responded, citing research that he said "shows among vaccinated populations the diversity of different strains is narrowing. So it's going to be fewer numbers of strains."
Newsmax host suggests vaccines ‘against nature’
A Newsmax host suggested late last week that coronavirus vaccines may be “against nature” and asked a university professor if some deadly diseases are “supposed to wipe out a certain amou…
thehill.com
OldMedUser
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People in many asian countries think of more than themselves and their 'freedums' so wear a mask in public if they think they might have a cold or flu so they don't spread it to others.
The whole being more important than the individual. What a concept eh. We could use a good dose of that.
printer
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Sort of, "You are your bother's keeper."?People in many asian countries think of more than themselves and their 'freedums' so wear a mask in public if they think they might have a cold or flu so they don't spread it to others.
The whole being more important than the individual. What a concept eh. We could use a good dose of that.
Budley Doright
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Hmmm sounds like a former member here who advocated for herd immunity in other words “kill all the old people”. Wonder how abandon is doing in these trying timesNewsmax host suggests vaccines 'against nature'
A Newsmax host suggested late last week that coronavirus vaccines may be “against nature” and asked a university professor if some deadly diseases are “supposed to wipe out a certain amount of people."
The remarks came while host Rob Schmitt was interviewing Peter McCullough, an associate professor in Texas A&M University's Department of Health and Kinesiology.
"You know, one thing I've always thought, and maybe you can guide me on this because, obviously, I'm not a doctor. But I've always thought about vaccines, and I always think about just nature and the way everything works. And I feel like a vaccination in a weird way is just generally kind of going against nature," Schmitt said.
"Like, I mean, if there is some disease out there — maybe there's just an ebb and flow to life where something's supposed to wipe out a certain amount of people, and that's just kind of the way evolution goes. Vaccines kind of stand in the way of that. Do you follow what I'm saying? Does that make sense to somebody in medicine?"
McCullough, who holds a Ph.D. in kinesiology, did not answer the question directly but said there isn't "any long-term data on the newer vaccines."
Earlier in the interview, Schmitt said he has "people in my family, very close to me, who I thought should get vaccinated because when you weigh the risks."
"But when it comes to vaccines in general, are you of the consensus that it could potentially take a long time to really know what a vaccination does to people in some cases?"
"Well, there are some reports that support what you're saying," McCullough responded, citing research that he said "shows among vaccinated populations the diversity of different strains is narrowing. So it's going to be fewer numbers of strains."
Newsmax host suggests vaccines ‘against nature’
A Newsmax host suggested late last week that coronavirus vaccines may be “against nature” and asked a university professor if some deadly diseases are “supposed to wipe out a certain amou…
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rkymtnman
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damn, forgot about him. wonder if he is one of these numerous sock accts?Hmmm sounds like a former member here who advocated for herd immunity in other words “kill all the old people”. Wonder how abandon is doing in these trying times
Budzbuddha
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Budzbuddha
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Maybe Omega variant will selectively target republicans and other noise makers.
