24 - 48 Dark period before harvest

testtime

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What's 2 weeks of hang time?
After harvest before putting into jars hang the plants in the dark and carefully controlled humidity with fans moving the air constantly for up to 2 weeks waiting for the branches that lead to the bud to snap cleanly.

And I say up to two weeks simply because that's how much time I'm allocating. They should have enough time to snap.

At least I think that's what I'm supposed to do at that moment.
 

Star Dog

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After harvest before putting into jars hang the plants in the dark and carefully controlled humidity with fans moving the air constantly for up to 2 weeks waiting for the branches that lead to the bud to snap cleanly.

And I say up to two weeks simply because that's how much time I'm allocating. They should have enough time to snap.

At least I think that's what I'm supposed to do at that moment.
Imho if they snap clean you've over dried it, the jar is where the final drying (60%) is sorted not the drying room/tent.
 

testtime

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What you ask is much too complicated to reply with a simple post and much of it I am still learning.

Plants are fascinating but in some ways their life cycle mirrors ours.

Senescence, ageing and death of the whole plant

So basically we got to get back to each other after each of us has read and analyzed 700 pages of deep dense biological technical material (start diving into the references). Which means it will never happen. Gotcha.

Master of avoidance that one. I appreciate a good distraction.

So mobile nutrient transfer is off the table while everybody tells me that nutrients don't move around but it's just too goddamn complex. And I am 100% sure that these nutrients move around, the facts of mobile nutrients is well documented in plants. So you want me to take a religious viewpoint? You tell me so I must believe. And what you're telling me directly contradicts the known science of mobile nutrients.

Rather than an experimental, empirical one, while you make fun of it.

Okay, have fun.
 
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testtime

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Imho if they snap clean you've over dried it, the jar is where the final drying (60%) is sorted not the drying room/tent.
My tent will be sent to 63% I believe and my individual jars will have little LCD humidity indicators to help me out. Either way they're all getting thrown in jars on the day of moving even if they don't feel done.
 

Little_Hobo

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Another question, what do you think of the humidity packs for curing in jars? i have bought them in preparation. I see they are also a point of discussion
 

testtime

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You could always dry in unbleached brown paper bags. This will help them finish while drying.

Just trying to give you ideas since your time table is set in stone. I would hate to see anyone bust there ass for months and months only to have to chop early.
You know what this does? What the supposed benefit is and how it does it?

Blocking air scares me.
 

twentyeight.threefive

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So basically we got to get back to each other after each of us has read and analyzed 700 pages of deep dense biological technical material (start diving into the references). Which means it will never happen. Gotcha.

Master of avoidance that one. I appreciate a good distraction.

So mobile nutrient transfer is off the table while everybody tells me that nutrients don't move around but it's just too goddamn complex. And I am 100% sure that these nutrients move around, the facts of mobile nutrients is well documented in plants. So you want me to take a religious viewpoint? You tell me so I must believe. And what you're telling me directly contradicts the known science of mobile nutrients.

Rather than an experimental, empirical one, while you make fun of it.

Okay, have fun.
Are you arguing just to argue now? You stated you're trying to shorten your cure? Why?
 

SidV

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You know what this does? What the supposed benefit is and how it does it?

Blocking air scares me.
It's probably a myth but something in the paper is supposed to help the ripening process. Ya, blocking airflow is very scary. You would just treat the paper bag as if it's a jar Opening and moving buds (more often. Several times a day. )The paper bag helps evenly dry the bud as moisture is evenly distributed in the bag.

I was going to plaster links but your smart and can do the lookup :)

Again it was only a suggestion. I don't want to have you end up with moldy bud so please research also.

Paper bag method is just a way old method (who knows it may have been debunked) but 20yrs ago it was standard practice.

TBH, do what your going to do. What makes you feel comfy.
 

testtime

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Are you arguing just to argue now? You stated you're trying to shorten your cure? Why?
Force move, short grow. I have four plants I am very happy with as ripeness, one so so, one not at all.

So I'm just trying to give them as many grow days as possible up into the point of harvest. It's just tight.

And no I'm not arguing for the sake of arguing, I just really hate it when someone argues from what seems to be a position of absolute authority, and then admits they really don't know what they're talking about and points me to a reference without even quoting anything in the reference that has anything to do with what I'm talking about.

That's a distraction move.
 

testtime

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Ok, well I hope things work out for you. In the end you'll have smoke.
Thanks.

Like I said 4 already ripe as far as I'm concerned now it's just letting them bulk since I have to harvest them all at the same time, which is 13 days.
 

osowhom

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Newbie here, think im going to go into final darkness today after my light period. My question is, do i do a final water? or do i let it dry out now for the full two days in the dark?

I think ive done pretty well over all for a beginner. Big healthy 4ft something plant. Buds arent as big as id hoped but they are better than expected also... full on organic grow for my first time as i think its important to have a baseline to go off.

But yeah, to water? or not to water? that is the question.
personally i flood my plants 24 hours before cut and let them drain then i do a 3 bucket wash with lemon and soda and my stuff is smoother than when i just chopped normal but it takes about 7 days to dry this way to each their own i do suggest washing them get a loupe and see the difference
 

twentyeight.threefive

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Force move, short grow. I have four plants I am very happy with as ripeness, one so so, one not at all.

So I'm just trying to give them as many grow days as possible up into the point of harvest. It's just tight.

And no I'm not arguing for the sake of arguing, I just really hate it when someone argues from what seems to be a position of absolute authority, and then admits they really don't know what they're talking about and points me to a reference without even quoting anything in the reference that has anything to do with what I'm talking about.

That's a distraction move.
Starving them isn't going to get them to finish or dry any quicker. Like I pointed out earlier you stated before you were trying to cut curing time down. Curing can be done anywhere so there is zero reason to starve the plants.
 

xtsho

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So basically we got to get back to each other after each of us has read and analyzed 700 pages of deep dense biological technical material (start diving into the references). Which means it will never happen. Gotcha.

Master of avoidance that one. I appreciate a good distraction.

So mobile nutrient transfer is off the table while everybody tells me that nutrients don't move around but it's just too goddamn complex. And I am 100% sure that these nutrients move around, the facts of mobile nutrients is well documented in plants. So you want me to take a religious viewpoint? You tell me so I must believe. And what you're telling me directly contradicts the known science of mobile nutrients.

Rather than an experimental, empirical one, while you make fun of it.

Okay, have fun.
Master of avoidance? How so? I don't have a degree in Plant Science. I'm an IT guy. I told you I was still learning. Had I taken a different career path I might have been able to make a quick summary in layman's terms that you would easily understand but I can't so I didn't even try.

There are mobile and immobile nutrients. Some mobile nutrients move one way while others are able to move up and down the plants vascular system.

I made a joke about boiling, freezing roots, dark period before harvest which is just stoner broscience and you get all unhinged as if I made a personal attack on you.

I don't care what you believe but if you really want to learn then reading 700 pages is not that difficult of a task. If you're too lazy to take the time to learn yourself and instead want others to just tell you what you want to hear then that's an issue you need to deal with. That's a mindset that is detrimental to learning anything.

Flush your plants with ice water daily while leaving them a week in the dark before you harvest. I don't give a damn.
 

lusidghost

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i use the packs after they have been jarred a week or so for longevity
I've been curing this way for about 4 years. The other day I took my son some bud. It was in two ziplocks and tied in a grocery bag inside of another. I could smell it the whole way to his house and half of the way back with the windows down.
 
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