Pandemic 2020

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CatHedral

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The attitude of the vaxxed is disgusting.
How and to whom? What exactly is disgusting about "Oh thank goodness we're a lot safer now!"? To what specific attitude do you object?

You are all talking like you are some sort of god it's making me laugh.
Ahh, you're probably a dominionist.
Wait until the flu season arrives, your specific antibodies is all you will have left of your worthless immune system.
Links to a derivation of immune worthlessness? Otherwise moo splat.
Take your vax, then quietly go sit in a corner. We don't need you to go around trying to convince everyone why the vax is so great. If it's so great, take it and be protected or wtv you think it is doing for you.
All in all, a new and faintly refreshing take on the age-old theme of the cliche partisan hatred you are promoting. Railing against every single progressive socio-economic advance the world has made in the l;ast 250 years.
 

Budzbuddha

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Another sock for the thread - welcome LEDshlong .

Denies vaxxers …. Welcomes UV up ass and bleach injections…. Figures.
 

mooray

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My point exactly. Bunch of inbred children saying Republican this, republican that. That's all that comes out of your small minds. Enjoy spitting your hate here because in reality you probably walk around like an anti social loser in the corner, otherwise someone would smack you straight the f up if you talked like that in person.
So here's the awesome part about what you've just said, which is the same thing I've read a million times online from rednecks over the last couple of decades. And first just to state the obvious, which is....you know, the obvious part about smacking someone being criminal assault and someone's words being perfectly legal and supported by the United States Constitution. So here's the thing....you're so emotionally weak and fragile that you give other people the power to turn you into a criminal and betray the constitution and all they have do is say something offensive.

It's just so weird that you guys haven't put those two lego blocks together yet. And I'm not even talking about something slightly more complicated like the cool themed space legos, I'm just talking about the shitty simple blocks.
 

hanimmal

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My point exactly. Bunch of inbred children saying Republican this, republican that. That's all that comes out of your small minds. Enjoy spitting your hate here because in reality you probably walk around like an anti social loser in the corner, otherwise someone would smack you straight the f up if you talked like that in person.
I looked between your two posts there is literally no posts with the word 'Republican'.

Why are you triggered to mention a political party when nobody else did?
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Here is what the vaccination situation looks like in Canada, we are leveling off on first doses, but should hit over 80% of eligible people soon and I expect we could get as high as almost 90%, if delta covid ravages the unvaccinated enough. It's so infectious that I expect the unvaccinated will have natural herd immunity by winter, since almost all of them will have been infected at the rate delta is spreading. So, you can become immune the easy way or the hard way, though the hard way might be a one way trip. If you are vaccinated, getting covid will mean a boost in immunity for most people and at worse a case of the "Wu Flu", if you are not vaccinated it will be a different story.

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Here's how things stack up, note the Yukon has the highest vaccination rate and the highest case count, it also has a lot of vulnerable native people though. We were behind on vaccines because of supply issues and got hammered with the alpha variant before we got vaxxed up, supplies are plentiful and we are into the vaccine resistant or reluctant and are now at around 80% for first doses. The difference in vaccination percentages between Canada and the USA is almost all due to politics, we have just as many wingnuts living here, but most haven't lost their minds completely.
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Coronavirus in the U.S.: How do Canada's provinces rank against American states? | CTV News

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potroastV2

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The attitude of the vaxxed is disgusting. You are all talking like you are some sort of god it's making me laugh. Wait until the flu season arrives, your specific antibodies is all you will have left of your worthless immune system. Take your vax, then quietly go sit in a corner. We don't need you to go around trying to convince everyone why the vax is so great. If it's so great, take it and be protected or wtv you think it is doing for you.
You just don't get it! First, it's not about you. :roll:

Getting the shot is your civic duty to your society. Don't get it, and you are contributing to your society's downfall.

The people around you in Ontario will be safer, so it's the considerate thing to do. While you laugh about it, we are thinking that you are an inconsiderate prick.

:mrgreen:
 

UncleBuck

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My point exactly. Bunch of inbred children saying Republican this, republican that. That's all that comes out of your small minds. Enjoy spitting your hate here because in reality you probably walk around like an anti social loser in the corner, otherwise someone would smack you straight the f up if you talked like that in person.
fuck your tender feelings you crying vagina.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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So here's the awesome part about what you've just said, which is the same thing I've read a million times online from rednecks over the last couple of decades. And first just to state the obvious, which is....you know, the obvious part about smacking someone being criminal assault and someone's words being perfectly legal and supported by the United States Constitution. So here's the thing....you're so emotionally weak and fragile that you give other people the power to turn you into a criminal and betray the constitution and all they have do is say something offensive.

It's just so weird that you guys haven't put those two lego blocks together yet. And I'm not even talking about something slightly more complicated like the cool themed space legos, I'm just talking about the shitty simple blocks.
More often than not, all they have to do is blow the dog whistle.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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You just don't get it! First, it's not about you. :roll:

Getting the shot is your civic duty to your society. Don't get it, and you are contributing to your society's downfall.

The people around you in Ontario will be safer, so it's the considerate thing to do. While you laugh about it, we are thinking that you are an inconsiderate prick.

:mrgreen:
Almost 80% of people in Ontario have had a first shot and almost 57% their second round, it's leveling off for first doses, as we get to the meatheads like this moron. Cases in Ontario are well behind all American states and 6th highest in Canada, so this idiot does not have much company up here.

Politics is the only difference now, we were short of supply for a spell and alpha hammered us, here's how things stand in North America.

 

DIY-HP-LED

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News Anchor Warns The Most Dangerous Thing You Put In Your Body Is Vaccine Propaganda

Despite being a scientific breakthrough, the coronavirus vaccine remains a point of great controversy in the United States. Cases of the virus are rising in every single state, and misinformation from conservative media and politicians continues to discourage people from getting vaccinated. MSNBC’s Ari Melber is joined by Mother Jones’ David Corn and The Nation’s Joan Walsh to discuss the situation.
 

mooray

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Nurse reveals how she pranks Covid deniers who call her a crisis actor
That was a really good bit and that's it in a nutshell. Unless it starts killing more of the population, maybe 5%, 10%, 25%, they're just not going to allow their hate for liberals and the things liberals support, to outweigh the concern for their own safety and the safety of their friends/family.
 

Fogdog

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I have to disagree. Home school does produce kids with some social difficulties, but your genetics have more to do with your intelligence. Most of what you are is decided when the sperm meets the egg. And most learning at schools happen outside the classroom, which is why home schooling can be so restrictive to social development.
Having high intelligence is not predictive of success in this society. Education, is.

Also, the kid's chances are determined by what happens during childhood development. A smart kid who has abusive parents or encounters trauma like sexual abuse is handicapped compared to average kids who grow up in a stable family. An absent father, alcoholism, or lack of a successful role model are all better predictors of a kid having difficulty succeeding than intelligence.

We tend to dismiss being average but a person with average intelligence is capable of tremendous things -- IF -- they get a good education. That said, a stable and sane family situation is very important too. So, yeah, home schooling for kids who are raised by great parents will probably turn out ok.

A few kids will not be harmed by homeschooling but as I said, those kids already were set up for success by having a stable family. Teaching IS a profession and time spent at college learning how to teach isn't something I think I could duplicate with "my own research". I want my kids taught by professionals, not an amateur.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Pfizer to Supply U.S. With Millions of Shots for Young Kids
  • U.S. retains option for updated vaccine tailored to variants
  • Doses could be used for rollout of boosters or shots for kids
Pfizer Inc. and BioNTech SE will supply the U.S. with another 200 million doses of their Covid-19 shot, setting up a stream of vaccine deliveries through next April in a push to protect kids and potentially provide boosters.

The White House is setting its sights on immunizing children under the age of 12, who aren’t yet eligible, and potentially deploying booster doses if new data shows their necessity.

Of the new doses, 65 million will be tailored for the pediatric population, should the vaccine be cleared for kids younger than 12, according to a Biden administration official familiar with the contract who spoke under the condition of anonymity as the terms aren’t public. Some of those shots would be immediately available upon authorization.

The U.S. also has the option to acquire an updated version of the vaccine to tackle potential variants if it’s available and authorized, Pfizer and BioNTech said Friday in a statement announcing the supply agreement.

White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki said Friday that the administration is preparing for shots for kids under 12 and possible booster shots. Pfizer declined to comment on contract details regarding the pediatric vaccines.

Pfizer shares gained 0.5% at 2:36 p.m. Friday in New York, while BioNTech’s American depository receipts rose 1.1%.

The new U.S. deal coincides with a back-to-school push to get children immunized. The Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine was cleared for those 12 and older in May, and studies in younger children are underway. The companies could learn by the fall whether the vaccine provides immunity in those as young as 6 months old.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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GOP sees widening rift over promoting Covid shots
While top Republicans pleaded with people to get vaccinated, others downplayed the threat of a Covid-19 resurgence.

The Republican Party is being torn apart by the debate over whether to more aggressively promote Covid-19 vaccines, pitting those alarmed by the virus’ resurgence against a faction that has spent weeks sowing fear about the immunization push.

The deepening divide became apparent this week on Capitol Hill and across the party, with a contingent of prominent conservatives vocally advocating for the shots — even as others emphasized the need for the GOP to stick to principles of “individual liberty” and stay out of Americans’ medical decisions.

While top Republicans like Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell and Alabama Gov. Kay Ivey pleaded with people to get vaccinated, others downplayed the threat of a Covid-19 resurgence — wary of angering a GOP base that views the sputtering vaccination effort as a political blow to President Joe Biden.

A news conference with Republican doctors in Congress, ostensibly to discuss the Delta variant, instead turned into a forum for the lawmakers to repeat unverified claims that the virus escaped from a lab in China, and to bash Democrats for not thoroughly investigating Covid’s origins.

“That is their choice,” Rep. Greg Murphy (R-N.C.) said when pressed about whether Republicans should urge people to get vaccinated. “It is our patriotic duty to care for other people, but it is also our patriotic duty to understand that we have individual rights in this country.”

That wariness among much of the Republican Party, borne out in 11 interviews with GOP policymakers, could further complicate the pandemic response as the Delta variant drives up case counts and hospitalizations while fewer Americans line up for shots. The deteriorating situation is likely to weigh heaviest on GOP voters: eight of the 10 states where Covid-19 hospitalizations were rising fastest are led by Republican governors.

After getting his first Covid-19 shot this week, House Republican Whip Steve Scalise (R-La.) repeatedly encouraged others to do the same. But given an opportunity Thursday to refute the vaccine safety fears fanned by prominent conservative skeptics, the chamber’s No. 2 GOP lawmaker demurred.

“I haven’t heard any conservatives raising doubts,” he said, a day after Charlie Kirk, co-founder of the conservative student group Turning Point USA, raised concerns about the vaccines’ safety on Fox News.

The posture has exasperated Biden administration officials and public health experts and hamstrung a vaccination effort that has so far reached 68 percent of American adults — below the target the White House had hoped to hit nearly three weeks ago.

Daily vaccination rates have dropped steadily, with the U.S. averaging fewer than a half-million shots a day since July Fourth. And after Republicans seized on President Joe Biden’s vow to go “door to door” to encourage vaccinations to falsely suggest the government would track those who refuse to get the shot, administration officials say they’re struggling to bridge an ever-widening partisan divide.

“This has profound consequences,” a senior administration official said of the hostility within parts of the GOP. “You’re putting people in harm’s way, and this is damn serious. This is as serious as we’ve been at.”

The faltering vaccine campaign — combined with a rapid comeback of the virus that’s almost exclusively hit unvaccinated Americans — have convinced some notable Republicans to ratchet up their pro-vaccine rhetoric.

McConnell has on multiple occasions promoted the shots, at one point decrying “all of these other voices that are giving demonstrably bad advice.” On Friday, Ivey said “it’s time to start blaming the unvaccinated folks” after her state suffered a steep acceleration in Covid-19 cases.
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DIY-HP-LED

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Dr. Jha: If You’re Vaccinated, You Should Not Be ‘Excessively Worried’

What is a breakthrough infection like for vaccinated folks? Should vaccinated people mask up? Should we be worried about our unvaccinated children? Dr. Ashish Jha answers the most burning Covid questions.
 
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