Runtz seeds?

I agree with him.

Why do people get to own genetics of a natural plant - if the shit is really the truth then the creators should S1 it and make it available......not hold it from the world besides for your friends.....then only a handful of ppl can ever smoke the strains - its stupid to not make clone-onlys into S1s imo.

People are all about the "cannabis culture" they claim - until they see $$$$$ - then they selfishly hold strains and eventually the genetics become completely lost because of their selfishness. If I had something fire as fuck, id share cuts with everyone I could!
OH isn't that the motherfuckin truth. I trust fuckin no one... When u start the thug pug fan boy club, and have 1500 paid directly to a bean site, from his ig acct, pug bean, and pay via bitcoin, get one acknowledgement, and 1 full month later, I can't get a human to respond. Fuck it, they got their 1500. We got price match claims, not for real tho.. Every seed bank that had integrity is either carrying too many "top notch breeders" so between the astronomical pricing, the scamming, and wost of all.. Customer service is all over the map.. Just depends who you are dealing with. Once I wrap up this$2k plus fiasco of missing thug pug packs, Im officially all set wit this nonsense. I have more fire than one human could ever grow. I definitely am sick to my stomach w worry and bullshit, while these fucks make millions and don't consider 2k might be alot of money for someone who is not selling drugs, or seeds, or the end product.. Extremely discouraging when you don't know someone, but you know their work is stellar, so you promote because you wanna spread the word and then find out that person appears to be rude, at the very least. Fuck!
 

higher self

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OH isn't that the motherfuckin truth. I trust fuckin no one... When u start the thug pug fan boy club, and have 1500 paid directly to a bean site, from his ig acct, pug bean, and pay via bitcoin, get one acknowledgement, and 1 full month later, I can't get a human to respond. Fuck it, they got their 1500. We got price match claims, not for real tho.. Every seed bank that had integrity is either carrying too many "top notch breeders" so between the astronomical pricing, the scamming, and wost of all.. Customer service is all over the map.. Just depends who you are dealing with. Once I wrap up this$2k plus fiasco of missing thug pug packs, Im officially all set wit this nonsense. I have more fire than one human could ever grow. I definitely am sick to my stomach w worry and bullshit, while these fucks make millions and don't consider 2k might be alot of money for someone who is not selling drugs, or seeds, or the end product.. Extremely discouraging when you don't know someone, but you know their work is stellar, so you promote because you wanna spread the word and then find out that person appears to be rude, at the very least. Fuck!
Which bean site scammed you? For 2k Id put them on blast. Can't say I'd trust buying direct through IG, might of been fake account
 

nc208

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OH isn't that the motherfuckin truth. I trust fuckin no one... When u start the thug pug fan boy club, and have 1500 paid directly to a bean site, from his ig acct, pug bean, and pay via bitcoin, get one acknowledgement, and 1 full month later, I can't get a human to respond. Fuck it, they got their 1500. We got price match claims, not for real tho.. Every seed bank that had integrity is either carrying too many "top notch breeders" so between the astronomical pricing, the scamming, and wost of all.. Customer service is all over the map.. Just depends who you are dealing with. Once I wrap up this$2k plus fiasco of missing thug pug packs, Im officially all set wit this nonsense. I have more fire than one human could ever grow. I definitely am sick to my stomach w worry and bullshit, while these fucks make millions and don't consider 2k might be alot of money for someone who is not selling drugs, or seeds, or the end product.. Extremely discouraging when you don't know someone, but you know their work is stellar, so you promote because you wanna spread the word and then find out that person appears to be rude, at the very least. Fuck!
Who are you talking about? Thug pug isn't a scammer and only charges 80-100 bucks a pack.
 

Lightgreen2k

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Why are your leafs curling up and burnt? Just curious?
Obviously your too stupid to know the leaves are not burnt, but moreso under attack by fungus gnats. The pupa come in the soil, but you just started growing maybe a year ago and think you know alot.

You were that kid that was using the word "CRINGE"

Anyhow those Orange packs on the plants have mites that go after them.
"Burnt leaves ,"

For the people to see a plant under worse attack.

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Leaves not burnt people.

@H420Baby Why do you want my attention so much? Across all these threads man; don't you have a girlfriend or wife / side chick. You arrived on the forums in 2020 and don't anything...
 
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H420Baby

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Obviously your too stupid to know the leaves are not burnt, but moreso under attack by fungus gnats. The pupa come in the soil, but you just started growing maybe a year ago and think you know alot.

You were that kid that was using the word "CRINGE"

Anyhow those Orange packs on the plants have mites that go after them.
"Burnt leaves ,"

For the people to see a plant under worse attack.

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Leaves not burnt people.

@H420Baby Why do you want my attention so much? Across all these threads man; don't you have a girlfriend or wife / side chick. You arrived on the forums in 2020 and don't anything...
I have a lot more going then giving it the big one to people, and plants that grow on top of each other full of bugs lol I need not say anything else’s your done, making fun of peoples grows you was saying! You just stay in your Oscar the grouch bin like grow mate hahahahha
 

Lightgreen2k

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I have a lot more going then giving it the big one to people, and plants that grow on top of each other full of bugs lol I need not say anything else’s your done, making fun of peoples grows you was saying! You just stay in your Oscar the grouch bin like grow mate hahahahha
You tried to ask a stupid question, and it didn't work well the way you expected it to go. You thought you had something smart to say, rather stupid and now you showed the world. " why are your leaves BURNT"

Plants that grow on top of each other, anyone see that ? Plants different shots.

You give shit advice to people in other threads, like you can grow. Have a good day now.
 
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H420Baby

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You tried to ask a stupid question, and it didn't work well the way you expected it to go. You thought you had something smart to say, rather stupid and now you showed the world. " why are your leaves BURNT"

Plants that grow on top of each other, anyone see that ? Plants different shots.
Your the smart Allic with all the comments over this forum, I don’t have bugs around or plants growing over each other! I ain’t smart or claim to be or make comments making fun of others grows! Your the immature one that went being smart about my shit! But mine ain’t covered in bugs and infections! On that note I will leave you to make what ever comments you want your plants say it all lmao

Have a good evening
 

Lightgreen2k

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Your the smart Allic with all the comments over this forum, I don’t have bugs around or plants growing over each other! I ain’t smart or claim to be or make comments making fun of others grows! Your the immature one that went being smart about my shit! But mine ain’t covered in bugs and infections! On that note I will leave you to make what ever comments you want your plants say it all lmao

Have a good evening
Again you show how stupid you are. The plants are in a bed. Plants don't grow over each other. Again 2020 forum person that thinks they know alot. My plants not covered in bugs either, You want my attention so bad you clicked on a post from 7 months ago. I wouldn't reply to you in the cannarado thread so you come here.

Little boy like I said find yourself a girlfriend or something...

"Dude says plants growing over each other, plants are in a bed. " You have given bullshit advice other the threads alot of it.


You really are a different type of slow.
 
Which bean site scammed you? For 2k Id put them on blast. Can't say I'd trust buying direct through IG, might of been fake account
OH yeah, it was a scam. Terpy seeds informed me. They are legit, but had someone do something similar. But Gromer is cryptic in his posts, hinting at shit to come, his ig kept going down, and while it remained looking the same w the same tugged thug, in description just says beware of scammers and betties. Nothing about the link to pug bean. Com in description as a warning when he had to notice something, so it was up and running for about a week. I dm him, to ask about 1st order, no reply, 2nd one, and over a month later, I was asking if he was aware the shipping and customer service was lacking, no reply. I realize it is the seed banks who make bank, and he sets his price at whatever it is whosale, and because of this, he does not appear to give a shit. I've only dm'd him 3times..once when I learned of him, through someone I respect in the industry, coincidentally, right at that time he said in a post he was going to retire, back problems. I just asked if what he is releasing will be the last chance to possibly get. He answered w something snarky, weird to me, but OK. I still chose to get what I could, only spoke of the guy like he was some kind of cannabis God, read a number of comments that back up my extrapolated opinion that he's not pleasent. The straw that makes me not give a fuck, is I spent alot of cash, for bitcoin and instead of being more proactive in protecting your customer base, by stating where only, ONLY you can find ones gear, maybe less scammers will take your customers money from you. Idk, seems like some breeders got that shit locked down, jungle boys, cookies fam.. Obviously scammers will try, but a way to validate the source, or the product via an app, or whatever options exist should be paramount when you're one of the lucky few to become a household name when you want top quality genetics. I didn't think anything was wrong because several people have a link to a place for purchase. I don't really want to start shit with Gromer, he didn't rip me off.. But there is a person I'm gonna put on blast, as I did straight walk into it.. But, this conversation and the fact that I knew almost as I pressed send.. It's actually humorous and it definitely needs to be fixed, it sounds like their little, or big? operation is not just a scam, as there are different names, but the very recognized avatar. Shrooms and weed.. Lots of ways to pay, so the venmo name is a real person, most likely the right person. When I have time, and someone w computer skills.. I'll blow her shit up, or at least make any one question if they want to engage in anything with a straight thief. Worst of all, she, I think, solicited me, and I was not in a frame of mind to deal with the cunning, pretty good damn sales pitch.. Never buy any thing but food when wasted.
Oh, funny Gromer response to a person asking why so expensive, when he used to be 100 even.. He bit the person's head off and said his price has never changed, it's the seed banks. When you are thugpug, you can set a limit, or choose to not do business with.. Also lending credibility to the scam. It's also really cool being the smartest guy in every conversation he contributed to, and yup he's a great breeder.. But so are so many others, no need to chase his shit, pay crazy money, and really only have about 3packs I wanted, settled on lots a shit still out there, why's it still out there? Probably cause it's a collab no one wants. Ehh I had it with that shit. Could've had the whole jungle boys line up w all I waisted. Too long? Harsh? I'm still so freaked out how much money I lost in a week. Oh well, that's the chance us nobodys take.
 

nc208

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OH yeah, it was a scam. Terpy seeds informed me. They are legit, but had someone do something similar. But Gromer is cryptic in his posts, hinting at shit to come, his ig kept going down, and while it remained looking the same w the same tugged thug, in description just says beware of scammers and betties. Nothing about the link to pug bean. Com in description as a warning when he had to notice something, so it was up and running for about a week. I dm him, to ask about 1st order, no reply, 2nd one, and over a month later, I was asking if he was aware the shipping and customer service was lacking, no reply. I realize it is the seed banks who make bank, and he sets his price at whatever it is whosale, and because of this, he does not appear to give a shit. I've only dm'd him 3times..once when I learned of him, through someone I respect in the industry, coincidentally, right at that time he said in a post he was going to retire, back problems. I just asked if what he is releasing will be the last chance to possibly get. He answered w something snarky, weird to me, but OK. I still chose to get what I could, only spoke of the guy like he was some kind of cannabis God, read a number of comments that back up my extrapolated opinion that he's not pleasent. The straw that makes me not give a fuck, is I spent alot of cash, for bitcoin and instead of being more proactive in protecting your customer base, by stating where only, ONLY you can find ones gear, maybe less scammers will take your customers money from you. Idk, seems like some breeders got that shit locked down, jungle boys, cookies fam.. Obviously scammers will try, but a way to validate the source, or the product via an app, or whatever options exist should be paramount when you're one of the lucky few to become a household name when you want top quality genetics. I didn't think anything was wrong because several people have a link to a place for purchase. I don't really want to start shit with Gromer, he didn't rip me off.. But there is a person I'm gonna put on blast, as I did straight walk into it.. But, this conversation and the fact that I knew almost as I pressed send.. It's actually humorous and it definitely needs to be fixed, it sounds like their little, or big? operation is not just a scam, as there are different names, but the very recognized avatar. Shrooms and weed.. Lots of ways to pay, so the venmo name is a real person, most likely the right person. When I have time, and someone w computer skills.. I'll blow her shit up, or at least make any one question if they want to engage in anything with a straight thief. Worst of all, she, I think, solicited me, and I was not in a frame of mind to deal with the cunning, pretty good damn sales pitch.. Never buy any thing but food when wasted.
Oh, funny Gromer response to a person asking why so expensive, when he used to be 100 even.. He bit the person's head off and said his price has never changed, it's the seed banks. When you are thugpug, you can set a limit, or choose to not do business with.. Also lending credibility to the scam. It's also really cool being the smartest guy in every conversation he contributed to, and yup he's a great breeder.. But so are so many others, no need to chase his shit, pay crazy money, and really only have about 3packs I wanted, settled on lots a shit still out there, why's it still out there? Probably cause it's a collab no one wants. Ehh I had it with that shit. Could've had the whole jungle boys line up w all I waisted. Too long? Harsh? I'm still so freaked out how much money I lost in a week. Oh well, that's the chance us nobodys take.
Damn dude I've heard gromer can be short. A buddy of mine asked him a question and he kinda blew up at him.
It's interesting cuz when Thug was breeding before the whole retirement thingy he did have his trusted banks put up of where was legit to grab his gear. And over the last year he's warned tons of times that lots of scammers and fakes out there so buy at your own risk. As in these as resellers and not much he can do about that.
Jungle boys deals with the exact same crap, there's so many posts of folks asking if this person is legit and them saying nope your outta luck.
I totally get your situation of being out a bunch of cash but I'm clueless as to why your blaming Gromer for not protecting you enough?
 
Damn dude I've heard gromer can be short. A buddy of mine asked him a question and he kinda blew up at him.
It's interesting cuz when Thug was breeding before the whole retirement thingy he did have his trusted banks put up of where was legit to grab his gear. And over the last year he's warned tons of times that lots of scammers and fakes out there so buy at your own risk. As in these as resellers and not much he can do about that.
Jungle boys deals with the exact same crap, there's so many posts of folks asking if this person is legit and them saying nope your outta luck.
I totally get your situation of being out a bunch of cash but I'm clueless as to why your blaming Gromer for not protecting you enough?
Yeah, your right, I don't recall what I wrote, I had just got screwed in something shroom related, but that was a known possibility going in, but it was contributing to my bad mood. But I do kind of feel like he should try something, whether it be a list of 4banks he deals w, anywhere else is not him. Or that sticker that will tell you if it's legit on the jb's boxes through an app. It's ridiculous, but I guess when you sort of stand out, it is an honor that you might not want for this reason, but it clearly says something about his abilities, as well as any other kick ass breeder. I know he has a price that he set wholesale and said he's never deviated.. But it seems either that he once demanded that his gear be sold for no more than "x" a pack, and that has changed to pretty much what ever the individual bank wants to sell it for. If he is making a modest amount on ea, as he pretty much told someone to f off about it, due to the set price he hasn't changed.. and said complain to the seed banks. Imagine doing that? I have really zero idea of what kind of $ it all yields, and how prices are determined.. But I would assume if you wanted your product to not exceed a certain amount, seems like a fairly simple thing to just not sell to one's that don't adhere. If it is because his genetics can command top dollar and he's getting his rightful amount, I absolutely think he should.. It's the being short, cryptic, and seemingly a lack of care that bugged me. I can't imagine the shit he must have to see and hear, so I get his disgust for the drama too. Basically rambling on about wishing that banks would just deal w anyone who wants to use credit cards and such.. This would make everyone's life easier, and make getting robbed less likely. I'm a bit happy I'm the end, as terpy seeds has come through w 6 lurch collabs, 3varieties,2of ea.. At $100 ea. So I don't have his top ones, but Im happy to have whatever I have got in the past and these 2 collabs the lurch, and hazy crosses, I only have 2or 3 thugpug only packs. I really don't need to even look at ig anymore, I have so many different "this could be the one" packs, I couldn't possibly grow all before I die if that's all I did. ✌
 

GlassJoe

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I saw someone on strainly giving away Runtz S1s, so I hit them up and I got another 5, bringing the total to 10. I'll probably run all 10 of them this winter. My expectations aren't super high; I know S1s will show quite a bit of variation, but I'm hoping to get at least one phenotype that's worth working with. I'll take cuttings off the plants preemptively, and then flower the mothers to see what's worth keeping.

I'm considering getting an STS kit or a CS generator to take the plants to S2 (F3) if anything seems like it's a keeper. I know that it increases the chance of negative recessive traits presenting, but that should be true of backcrossing and any other technique that creates an inbred line. If the seeds are vigorous enough to merit growing on their own, that would be nice, but they could also be outcrossed.
 

PJ Diaz

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I saw someone on strainly giving away Runtz S1s, so I hit them up and I got another 5, bringing the total to 10. I'll probably run all 10 of them this winter. My expectations aren't super high; I know S1s will show quite a bit of variation, but I'm hoping to get at least one phenotype that's worth working with. I'll take cuttings off the plants preemptively, and then flower the mothers to see what's worth keeping.

I'm considering getting an STS kit or a CS generator to take the plants to S2 (F3) if anything seems like it's a keeper. I know that it increases the chance of negative recessive traits presenting, but that should be true of backcrossing and any other technique that creates an inbred line. If the seeds are vigorous enough to merit growing on their own, that would be nice, but they could also be outcrossed.
STS is easy to make. You don't need a kit, as long as you have a scale to weigh out the two chemicals you have to buy. I just reversed my cut of Runtz, and it's starting to show sacks now.
 

GlassJoe

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STS is easy to make. You don't need a kit, as long as you have a scale to weigh out the two chemicals you have to buy. I just reversed my cut of Runtz, and it's starting to show sacks now.
Yeah, I could get the sodium thiosulfate and silver nitrate too and weigh it out, I just haven't looked into buying them. Long term that's probably better if I want to inbreed and outcross it
 

PJ Diaz

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Yeah, I could get the sodium thiosulfate and silver nitrate too and weigh it out, I just haven't looked into buying them. Long term that's probably better if I want to inbreed and outcross it
It's only like $30 for both chems, enough to last long time.
 
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