First Grow Ever

curious2garden

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You'll laugh at this but i decided to not add dolomite last week due to me thinking they'd be ready sooner than later (rookie error) - im assuming liquid/synthetic cal mag thats quick acting is available somewhere lol...?
A bottle of Ca/Mg additive is a good thing to have on hand. I use General Hydro's product, CaliMagic, but there are many others equally good but yes they need the food now.

Don't worry about feeding your plants until they are finished. I harvest green plants and they smoke great.

BTW I'm hydro not soil so you might benefit by waiting for a few soil gods to swing by and give their opinion of how to fix what I see. Soil functions through a microbial herd which hydro doesn't therefore you have to worry about translation issues more than hydro does.
 

The Florist

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A bottle of Ca/Mg additive is a good thing to have on hand. I use General Hydro's product, CaliMagic, but there are many others equally good but yes they need the food now.

Don't worry about feeding your plants until they are finished. I harvest green plants and they smoke great.

BTW I'm hydro not soil so you might benefit by waiting for a few soil gods to swing by and give their opinion of how to fix what I see. Soil functions through a microbial herd which hydro doesn't therefore you have to worry about translation issues more than hydro does.
Alrighty - allrounded feed done for them with a scoop of worm castings and pinch of magnesium, looking out for a liquid calmag soil quick fix locally otherwise i might have to ride it out :(.
The calyxes are swelling dramatically honestly so happy im waiting haha - each day i go in with the sidelined mentality of "snip snip bitches" - but after a quick glance i get shocked at the 24 hour difference lol...
 

The Florist

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A bottle of Ca/Mg additive is a good thing to have on hand. I use General Hydro's product, CaliMagic, but there are many others equally good but yes they need the food now.

Don't worry about feeding your plants until they are finished. I harvest green plants and they smoke great.

BTW I'm hydro not soil so you might benefit by waiting for a few soil gods to swing by and give their opinion of how to fix what I see. Soil functions through a microbial herd which hydro doesn't therefore you have to worry about translation issues more than hydro does.
Hmmm i feel you're definitely right about waiting 2+ weeks... it seems everythings on track and im literally just waiting for calyxes to swell/trichs to change...?
From what i've seen/searched/smoked it seems that my pistils will "recede"/calyxes will swell (as in the pistills look quite long and calyxes quite small now compared to what i should be expecting right before harvesting right?)

I know why this is so painful now. Veg time = whatever time floats your boat (and generally a more relaxed/less monitored process), Flower Time = multiple visual/physical changes with each moment increasing in anticipation as well as gradually looking more delicious within a time frame so small yet non-negotiable which in comparison to veg time and in my case is nothing.. fuck!


Based on your personal experience (or anyone elses), have you harvested something similar to the most mature girl in this log?
Was it a regretful experience/if so in what ways?
* edit the nugs i have plucked/dried look almost identical to this i found on the forum down the line:1627232868965.png

For size context the nug was about the size of a small thumb lol - My main take away from this, is the nug formation barely has any calyxes...particularly to what I'm used to grinding up i guess.. this all being said i'm assuming this nug shown above was most likely harvest around a similar time frame to that of mine and im assuming was too early XD?
 
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DieselNuts

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Growing outdoors I only harvest early when there is bud rot.
The most significant changes happen in the last 10 days, Buy a jewelers loop and watch your trichs.
I prefer milky cloudy but the 20% amber allows for the rest to completely develop it's potency.
 

curious2garden

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Hmmm i feel you're definitely right about waiting 2+ weeks... it seems everythings on track and im literally just waiting for calyxes to swell/trichs to change...?
From what i've seen/searched/smoked it seems that my pistils will "recede"/calyxes will swell (as in the pistills look quite long and calyxes quite small now compared to what i should be expecting right before harvesting right?)

I know why this is so painful now. Veg time = whatever time floats your boat (and generally a more relaxed/less monitored process), Flower Time = multiple visual/physical changes with each moment increasing in anticipation as well as gradually looking more delicious within a time frame so small yet non-negotiable which in comparison to veg time and in my case is nothing.. fuck!


Based on your personal experience (or anyone elses), have you harvested something similar to the most mature girl in this log?
Was it a regretful experience/if so in what ways?
I've made every mistake in the book. Harvested early, on time, late et cetera and I still do on occasion. Essentially you've put so much time, energy and money into this give them that last couple of weeks.

If you can't wait take a few test nugs, quick dry them and try them. That will give you an idea of her high profile and if you want to chop her now. However not having experience with her high profile later can cheat you. As you gain experience you well get more information on early testing of buds. I don't need to bother with that as much now but every once in awhile I'll do it to remind myself why I'm waiting.

I know you're so close it's hard to wait but just hang on. Patience is a virtue that usually is rewarded.
 

The Florist

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Growing outdoors I only harvest early when there is bud rot.
The most significant changes happen in the last 10 days, Buy a jewelers loop and watch your trichs.
I prefer milky cloudy but the 20% amber allows for the rest to completely develop it's potency.
I've made every mistake in the book. Harvested early, on time, late et cetera and I still do on occasion. Essentially you've put so much time, energy and

I know you're so close it's hard to wait but just hang on. Patience is a virtue that usually is rewarded.
I wanna - i've been using a friends mag glass which shows the trichs well enoughish.
Yep if anything i'd prefer about 30% if not higher (depending on strain/genetic i guess this being said).

Ahh yes i have @curious2garden as i too was curious ;) - It's a blasting head high that makes me feel like im twelve again but unless it's the hangover from last night and general dehydration i do believe it brings about a bit of a headache. Although it's probably gotten alot stronger since i last tried a popcorn.. i am rambling a bit lol.. hmm good point i won't get to see/feel her final form XD!

Oh i might be running into rootbound issues if i haven't already.. I'm considering cutting the bottom of the current pots off and placing them on top of new pots to minimize most if not all stress...thoughts???

Thanks again for any and all info as when i ask do believe i have thoroughly checked/cross checked/self educated and absorbed as much as possible prior to asking any question past or future - however based on half the websites being generically retarted, youtubers being half helpful, i'd rather ask people with experience/knowledge . . . although you'll often ask 10 growers the same question and get 10 different responses - one can navigate lol
 
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The Florist

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Update:
Chopped a small cola which barely makes half the height of the most mature girl - hung it to dry and found a perfectly preserved/what seems useable seed XD... healthy brown with tiger striping... But is the only one on the said cola/plant i can see or have come across.. quid pro quo?

Something's obviously a tad off here - Males are out of question, however stress and or potential inherited hermie may not be as they were bag seeds, clones from a friend and this is my first rodeo so i'm not expecting everything to be smooth sailing or about to have a meltdown (particularly considering the frost factor on of the main girls that have shown a seed.. and im fussy!), on this note:

-if they were true inherited hermies there should be a good few visible seeds or somehwhat easily viewable seeds by this point right? (week 9 starting week 10 tomorrow guess would be hybrid indica dominant)

- is it possible that only a certain part of the plants were affected/that the any pollen/pollen sacks now remain within the flowers affected?

This would now mean 2 out of the 3 main girls have shown 1 seed each, there's one clone i didnt take care of and threw in at the same time which i suspect may have pollen sacks (looks like calyxes but doesn't have a pistil and feels like a hollow balloon...?).

I'm assuming my best plan of attack would be remove the shitty clone i suspect to be a hermie (will post pics), wipedown the environment, and spray water on the girls which are only like 3/4 weeks into flower but i dont want to spray the main girls with water...unless advised otherwise..?

As for handling the 3 main girls .. I could go either way but what are everyones thoughts?
 

The Florist

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Update:
M1 - has the calyxes swelling up/is growing new calyxes rapidly? Happy with how it's going but i just cut and hung the “main” cola as i gave myself enough excuses to convince myself.
M2 and M3 are both doing well although M3 has lost quite a lot of fan leaves and seems well behind.
Here’s pics of M3 for progress (pic 2 main cola and pic 1&3 side colas)
 

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The Florist

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Update: Harvested the most mature girl after a total of 10 weeks+ 2 days dark which really plumped her up as she was still harvested a bit early but with so many seeds found in a bit concerned about pollen spreading.

M2 & M3 are continuing to grow and won’t be harvested early
 

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Update: M3 dried out a bit too quick so it was put into a brown paper bag and jar to test different I.C.E recovery methods (I wasn’t comfortable with misting water onto them).
What was in the paper bag dried out a bit slower, and the jar has retained whatever moisture was left for curing unfortunately a vast amount of terms has been lost. However still better smoke than what’s available .

Recently changed the lights to 11 on 13 off as M2/M3 seem a bit stubborn and there’s a few nanas on m3 which im Plucking but am concerned about

M3 is growing freakishly quickly and in such weird formation although it’s coming into shape now
M2 is trucking along with most of the calyxes turning purple as well as majority of sugar leaves although the flowers have a long way to go

@klx @curious2garden @Alter Jean @Dank Bongula @Rozgreenburn
M3 upclose (m2 at the back, will ad close up soon but its at the back and im delving in tomorrow)
The less developed girls were thrown in mid way through the OG's flower cycle for experimentation really which consist of:
4 x 30 day veg
4 x 12/12 flower cycle from seed
 

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