Pandemic 2020

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PJ Diaz

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https://www.rollitup.org/t/pandemic-2020.1008556/post-16445659



Once again you are pretending like incident of a person having this virus while in the hospital is relevant (or more likely just a distraction to confuse people who don't understand the death cult trolling) to the vast majority of people who are sick with the virus being the reason they are in the hospital.

The thing you are cherry picking around is that those people that are vaccinated are not the ones getting seriously ill and taking up a shit load of resources to treat in the hospital and putting vulnerable people at higher risk.

https://apnews.com/article/coronavirus-pandemic-health-941fcf43d9731c76c16e7354f5d5e187
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Did you read the article you posted? The first line clearly says, "An Associated Press analysis of available government data from May".

May. That was 2 months ago. You are only reinforcing what I've been saying. Those are old stats which are being referenced. Let me know when you find stats for July.
 

injinji

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good question. who approved the change in narrative this past Monday, July 19th? all of a sudden there it was..vaccine good.

maybe when McCarthy went to Bedminster to meet with him the previous week, he realized how much mush Trumps brain became?
Someone introduced them to math.
 

printer

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Did you read the article you posted? The first line clearly says, "An Associated Press analysis of available government data from May".

May. That was 2 months ago. You are only reinforcing what I've been saying. Those are old stats which are being referenced. Let me know when you find stats for July.
99.5% of US covid deaths are unvaccinated people Friday 09 July
Nearly all of the recent deaths from Covid-19 in the US have been unvaccinated individuals, according to initial data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The director of the CDC, Dr Rachel Walensky, said at a recent news briefing that people who are not vaccinated against the coronavirus “remain susceptible, especially from the transmissible Delta variant, and are particularly at risk for severe illness and death”.


She continued, “Preliminary data from several states over the last few months suggest that 99.5 per cent of deaths from Covid-19 in the United States were in unvaccinated people.”


No timeframe was provided for the data by Dr Walensky on 7 July, but the findings are in line with other assessments about the benefits of being vaccinated against the coronavirus.

For example, analysis from last month by the AP discovered that 0.8 per cent of the covid deaths in May were among people confirmed to be fully vaccinated against Covid.

Since July is not over yet...
 

hanimmal

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Did you read the article you posted? The first line clearly says, "An Associated Press analysis of available government data from May".

May. That was 2 months ago. You are only reinforcing what I've been saying. Those are old stats which are being referenced. Let me know when you find stats for July.
lmao, yeah that article was from late June. May would have been the only month with data. Are you pretending like you somehow researched some conspiracy about the doctors are all lying about how the hospitals are filling up with unvaccinated Covid suffering people?

I call bullshit for all the reasons I have already pointed out to you to just keep cherry picking the parts that further your bullshit narrative that is total bullshit, and is right up there with not getting medical treatment for religious reasons.

Oh and as for 'July' numbers. That would be in August that they will come out.
 

printer

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‘The Ugly Truth For Us’: 4th Wave Of Cases Has Jackson Memorial’s COVID Floor Packed With Unvaccinated Patients
July 27, 2021 at 5:55 am

It’s a full house Monday afternoon in the Jackson Memorial COVID ICU.


“This fourth wave, the unvaccinated pandemic is actually a super bad reality,” explained ICU Nurse Manager Alix Zacharski. “It’s the ugly truth for us.”

Zacharski told CBS4 all the patients here have several things in common – they’re younger and none of them are vaccinated.

“All of them are unvaccinated,” she said. “We’re full. All the patients that are currently here, six of them are under 60 years old.”

Dr. David De La Zerda is the lead ICU physician at Jackson. He’s concerned about the growing number of patients being treated for COVID.

“Most of our patients are unvaccinated,” Dr. De La Zerda said.

On Friday, there were 171 COVID patients at JMH. It rose by three on Saturday. By Sunday, it was at 195. Now, it’s over 200.

Of the 205 currently at Jackson’s COVID floor, 185 of them are unvaccinated. While 20 were vaccinated, 15 of them are immunocompromised.

“There are many Immunocompromised,” he said. “We have here a large transplant program, so most of these patients are kidney transplant, lung transplant and some patients with obesity and hypertension.”

CBS4 was hoping to speak with a patient, but everyone was too sick to talk – many having difficulties breathing.

Yvette Pons, the associate nurse manager on the COVID floor, told CBS4 that while a few vaccinated patients end up there, those who got the shot usually make out much better than those who are unvaccinated.

“You may get it, but you are not going to get it really bad. You can come to the hospital, we can treat you and you can go home, rather than come to the hospital and never go home,” Pons said.

She said the solution is simple.

“I encourage everybody to not do it for yourself only but for your family, your friends,” she said. “Just get vaccinated!”

I know, what does a lowly nurse know? I guess it is what the Newsmax crowd says is the problem. All the covid cases are the refugees coming across the border that Biden is busing to other parts of the country filling up the hospitals, All to win the culture war.


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PJ Diaz

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But recent in this month is more recent than months ago I would think.
lmao, yeah that article was from late June. May would have been the only month with data. Are you pretending like you somehow researched some conspiracy about the doctors are all lying about how the hospitals are filling up with unvaccinated Covid suffering people?

I call bullshit for all the reasons I have already pointed out to you to just keep cherry picking the parts that further your bullshit narrative that is total bullshit, and is right up there with not getting medical treatment for religious reasons.

Oh and as for 'July' numbers. That would be in August that they will come out.
I just like to look at hard data for myself, and not have someone else give their bias perspective on it. I see it happen time and time again; the headlines say one thing, and then when you dig into the data, so start to see how the data gets bastardized to support a specific narrative on behalf of "science". The article I posted a month or so regarding the study of spontaneous abortions in vaxxed women was a perfect example of that. I want to see data, show me the data. I don't need some reporter to parse it out for me. I have yet to see any real US data for June on this. If someone has a link, please send it.
 

potroastV2

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I just like to look at hard data for myself, and not have someone else give their bias perspective on it. I see it happen time and time again; the headlines say one thing, and then when you dig into the data, so start to see how the data gets bastardized to support a specific narrative on behalf of "science". The article I posted a month or so regarding the study of spontaneous abortions in vaxxed women was a perfect example of that. I want to see data, show me the data. I don't need some reporter to parse it out for me. I have yet to see any real US data for June on this. If someone has a link, please send it.

I've got a link for you son:


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printer

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I just like to look at hard data for myself, and not have someone else give their bias perspective on it. I see it happen time and time again; the headlines say one thing, and then when you dig into the data, so start to see how the data gets bastardized to support a specific narrative on behalf of "science". The article I posted a month or so regarding the study of spontaneous abortions in vaxxed women was a perfect example of that. I want to see data, show me the data. I don't need some reporter to parse it out for me. I have yet to see any real US data for June on this. If someone has a link, please send it.
So you are saying the numbers and increases given at the hospital are false, that the news orginization would not have checked with the hospital organization, that the hospital would have lied? You were complaining of data that is out of date, seems you would have thought data from the last week would be of note. Or it would have been if it fit your narrative and bias.
 

CunningCanuk

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I just like to look at hard data for myself, and not have someone else give their bias perspective on it. I see it happen time and time again; the headlines say one thing, and then when you dig into the data, so start to see how the data gets bastardized to support a specific narrative on behalf of "science".
says the greatest data cherry picker of all time.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Jesus help us, the Trumpers and antivaxxers are stupid enough already! Covid makes em even stupider.
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Large study finds COVID-19 is linked to a substantial deficit in intelligence (psypost.org)

Large study finds COVID-19 is linked to a substantial deficit in intelligence

People who have recovered from COVID-19 tend to score significantly lower on an intelligence test compared to those who have not contracted the virus, according to new research published in The Lancet journal EClinicalMedicine. The findings suggest that the SARS-CoV-2 virus that causes COVID-19 can produce substantial reductions in cognitive ability, especially among those with more severe illness.

“By coincidence, the pandemic escalated in the United Kingdom in the middle of when I was collecting cognitive and mental health data at very large scale as part of the BBC2 Horizon collaboration the Great British Intelligence Test,” said lead researcher Adam Hampshire (@HampshireHub), an associate professor in the Computational, Cognitive and Clinical Neuroimaging Laboratory at Imperial College London.

“The test comprised a set of tasks designed to measure different dimensions of cognitive ability that had been designed for application in both citizen science and clinical research. A number of my colleagues contacted me in parallel to point out that this provided an opportunity to gather important data on how the pandemic and COVID-19 illness were affecting mental health and cognition.”

“I had been thinking the same thing and wanted to help out insofar as I could, so extended the study to include information about COVID-19 illness and the impact of the pandemic on daily life more generally,” Hampshire said.

For their study, Hampshire and his team analyzed data from 81,337 participants who completed the intelligence test between January and December 2020. Of the entire sample, 12,689 individuals reported that they had experienced COVID-19, with varying degrees of respiratory severity.

After controlling for factors such as age, sex, handedness, first language, education level, and other variables, the researchers found that those who had contracted COVID-19 tended to underperform on the intelligence test compared to those who had not contracted the virus. The greatest deficits were observed on tasks requiring reasoning, planning and problem solving, which is in line “with reports of long-COVID, where ‘brain fog,’ trouble concentrating and difficulty finding the correct words are common,” the researchers said.

Previous research has also found that a large proportion of COVID-19 survivors are affected by neuropsychiatric and cognitive complications.

“We need to be careful as it looks like the virus could be affecting our cognition. We do not fully understand how, why, or for how long, but we urgently need to find out. In the meantime, don’t take unnecessary risks and do get vaccinated,” Hampshire told PsyPost.

The level of cognitive underperformance was also associated with the level of illness severity, with those who were hospitalized on a ventilator showing the greatest deficits. The observed deficit for COVID-19 patients who had been put on a ventilator equated to a 7-point drop in IQ. The deficit was even larger than the deficits observed for individuals who had previously suffered a stroke and who reported learning disabilities.

“I think it is fair to say that those of us who have been analyzing data such as this are somewhat nervous at the decision to let the pandemic run its course within the UK,” Hampshire said.

Although a small subset of 275 participants completed the intelligence test both before and after contracting COVID-19, the study mostly employed a cross-sectional methodology, limiting the ability to draw firm conclusions about cause and effect. But the large and socioeconomically diverse sample allowed the researchers to control for a wide variety of potentially cofounding variables, including pre-existing conditions.

“The main caveat is that we do not know what the mechanistic basis of the observed COVID-cognition association is. Nor do we know how long any impact on cognition might last. I am providing the assessment technology for use in a raft of studies that are now trying to answer these questions,” Hampshire said.
 
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