Pandemic 2020

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PJ Diaz

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The dark side? I'll shed some light on the dark side, Covid has killed over 4.2 million people and over 628,000 in the US.
Would you prefer to simply pretend that it isn't there?
Not at all. I think people should take precautions to prevent the virus. I take precautions myself. There are a lot of vaxxed people who aren't taking any other precautions now that they are double jabbed, and personally I think this is a large reason for the recent resurgence. I myself don't go to bars or nightclubs, avoid crowded indoor spaces, decline invites to parties, and wear my mask regularly. A huge amount of vaxed people are not taking similar precautions.
 

UncleBuck

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Why would they have died if they both had natural immunity and were also double jabbed?

That's because they are following suit of what the CDC did back in May of this year: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/covid-19/health-departments/breakthrough-cases.html

In short they don't want to be reporting the multitude of asymptomatic breakthrough cases which are out there, because it will make the jabs look even less effective. This is old news.
Do you think youre doing a great job here
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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I went to the Dr. today to get a script for an antibody test. She said it’s a good one and will tell just how much protection I have. She said everyone has a different level of protection. Some have none, some have a little some have half and others have a very high level. I also asked her if I should be wearing an N95 or K95 and she said no. She told me that the blue surgical mask I wear is excellent at protecting , so I am just going to keep wearing that.
 

rkymtnman

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Why would they have died if they both had natural immunity and were also double jabbed?
you missed my question:

you posted how many people died from breakthrough infections.

i want to know how many people in that same survey either 1> had covid previously and knew of by testing 2> had covid previously but were not tested and died.

i just want a complete overview of all deaths to make it fair comparison
 

UncleBuck

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I went to the Dr. today to get a script for an antibody test. She said it’s a good one and will tell just how much protection I have. She said everyone has a different level of protection. Some have none, some have a little some have half and others have a very high level. I also asked her if I should be wearing an N95 or K95 and she said no. She told me that the blue surgical mask I wear is excellent at protecting , so I am just going to keep wearing that.
Why are you listening to your doc instead of peejay
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Thanks to the usual suspects America is number 1, again...
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In shocking news, US has highest number of new cases in the world
New cases increased 131 percent.

Story at a glance
  • The U.S. tallied 500,332 new cases for the week ending July 25.
  • The U.S. was followed by Brazil, Indonesia, the United Kingdom and India.
  • The global number of new infections was up 8 percent, with more than 3.8 million new cases.
The WHO’s latest epidemiological report shows the U.S. tallied 500,332 new cases for the week ending July 25. That’s a 131-percent increase in new infections compared with the week prior.

The U.S. was followed by Brazil, Indonesia, the United Kingdom and India.

The global number of new infections was up 8 percent, with more than 3.8 million new cases.

“An average of around 540,000 cases were reported each day over the past week as compared to 490,000 cases reported daily the week before,” WHO said.

“This increasing trend is largely attributed to substantial increases in the Region of the Americas and the Western Pacific Region,” the United Nation’s health agency said.

If the trends continue, the total number of cases worldwide could surpass 200 million the next two weeks.

COVID-19 deaths also increased by 21 percent globally in the last week, with most of the 69,000 deaths recorded in the Americas and Southeast Asia.

The spike comes as delta continues to spread across the globe. Vaccination rates have also plateaued in many parts of the U.S.

Just more than 49 percent of the American population has been fully vaccinated with 57 percent receiving at least one dose, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Almost half of new COVID-19 cases are happening in three states
Florida, Texas and Missouri are contributing the highest number of new cases in the nation.

Story at a glance
  • Several states account for around 40 percent of all new coronavirus cases.
  • One in 5 are occurring in Florida.
  • Florida has fully vaccinated approximately 48 percent of its residents, which is nearly on par with the national average of 48.8 percent.

Several states account for around 40 percent of all new coronavirus cases, as the delta variant surges across the U.S.

White House coronavirus response coordinator Jeff Zients told reporters Thursday that Florida, Texas and Missouri are contributing the highest number of new cases in the nation, adding that 1 in 5 are occurring in Florida, and “primarily among unvaccinated people.”

“Each shot matters,” Zients said. “Each additional person fully vaccinated is a step closer to putting this pandemic behind us.”

Florida has fully vaccinated approximately 48 percent of its residents, which is nearly on par with the national average of 48.8 percent. Texas and Missouri fall short of the nationwide mark at 43 and 40.7 percent, respectively.

Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) Director Rochelle Walensky said before a Senate hearing last week that the delta variant first discovered in India accounts for 83 percent of all U.S. COVID-19 cases — which is up substantially from the 52.7 percent the first week of July. Walensky continued that virus related deaths were up by nearly 48 percent, while pitching vaccine efficacy.

“Each death is tragic and even more heartbreaking when we know that the majority of these deaths could be prevented with a simple, safe, available vaccine,” she said.
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DIY-HP-LED

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The tRUmp supporter problem is slowly solving itself with a little help from Darwin.
At this point in America the antivaxx crowd is mostly republican and born yesterday Christian, many minorities are persuadable and they've been getting vaxxed. The loud and proud Trumpers seem the most resistant and many are in high risk groups.

One thing does make me wonder though, 90% of people over 65 have been vaxxed and are watching the situation unfold. The GOP already lost a lot of support among seniors over covid and it looks like they are gonna lose more.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Fuck them, raise the fines, it's a workplace and it's only a fucking mask, electing adults would solve this problem.
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Capitol police told to arrest visitors not wearing masks as Republicans warn rebellion over rules

A growing group of Republican lawmakers is playing chicken with the Capitol police after refusing a new mask mandate, despite the threat of arrest.

Capitol police chief Thomas Manger ordered officers to report any members of Congress who refuse to wear a mask, warning they would be subject to arrest for unlawful entry under DC Code 22-3302.

While officers were directed to report members to the Sergeant at Arms before an immediate arrest, they weren’t told to give any staff or visitors the same leeway.

House Republican representatives Thomas Massie and Nancy Mace dared Nancy Pelosi and police to come at them, while Lauren Boebert reportedly dropped an offered mask to the floor (or slid across the table, per her office), and Marjorie Taylor Greene called on every Republican to ignore the "bulls***" after the mandate was reintroduced on Wednesday.

"This is INSANE," Mr Massie tweeted. "Might as well come into my office and arrest my entire staff. We are not wearing masks. I support the Capitol Hill Police, but the Chief of Police made a mistake here. The physician and the chief of police don’t have this authority."

Ms Mace, meanwhile, posted a video online along with a bat, pile of poo, and clown emojis to taunt the House speaker and Capitol police to have at it, while telling her staff to work from home to avoid arrest.

"I had Covid, I’ve had two vaccinations, I’m washing my hands, I’m even wearing my mask inside the chamber, but I’m not going to wear it anywhere else. So Madam Speaker, come and get me," Ms Mace said.

Ms Taylor Greene, who along with Mr Massie is suing Ms Pelosi over $500 fines for not wearing a mask, said the Office of the Attending Physician has no authority to fine members or deny their vote if not wearing a mask.
 

PJ Diaz

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you missed my question:

you posted how many people died from breakthrough infections.

i want to know how many people in that same survey either 1> had covid previously and knew of by testing 2> had covid previously but were not tested and died.

i just want a complete overview of all deaths to make it fair comparison
I'd like to see that data too. Perhaps the data doesn't exist because there are no such known cases. Let me know if you come up with anything there.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Another coronavirus variant has reached Florida. Here’s what you need to know.

A coronavirus variant discovered in Colombia is showing up among patients in South Florida, increasing infections and putting health officials on alert as calls grow louder for unvaccinated individuals to get inoculated.

Carlos Migoya, CEO of Jackson Health System, told WPLG in Miami earlier this week that the B.1.621 variant has accounted for about 10 percent of coronavirus patients, trailing behind delta, the now-dominant variant in the United States that has been ravaging the nation’s unvaccinated, and the gamma variant. B.1.621 has yet to receive a Greek-letter designation as more prominent variants have.

Migoya told the news station that he speculated B.1.621 is rising in South Florida because of international travel between Colombia and Miami, which serves as a gateway to Latin America.

A person who replied to an email sent from The Washington Post to Migoya’s office said he was unavailable to comment.

Health experts will keep B.1.621 on their radar as the fall season looms and as parts of the country still lag in their vaccination efforts, experts told The Post.

The earliest documented samples of B.1.621 were noted in January, and at least 16 cases have been recently reported in the United Kingdom, where health officials have noted that the majority of cases linked to the variant were the result of international travel.

Public Health England noted last week that there is currently no evidence to indicate that the variant causes more severe disease or evades the efficacy of vaccines. Yet the agency has designated the variant to be under investigation as it continues to conduct lab testing to better understand the impact mutations have on the coronavirus.

The European Center for Disease Control and Prevention has also chosen to assign the variant as one of interest, as evidence could suggest significant impact. But the designation also notes that much of the data is preliminary and marked with many questions.

In the United States, the variant has yet to be named a variant of interest or concern, accounting for just more than 2.1 percent of cases as of July 17, noted John Sellick, a professor at the Jacobs School of Medicine and Biomedical Sciences at the University at Buffalo.

“The only time it becomes important is if it gives virus selective advantage, which we’ve seen with delta variant,” he said. “We’ll see with this one. … What we have to see is two weeks from now, or four weeks from now, is this going to do another trick and wind up being more?”

Sellick noted how quickly the delta variant went from accounting for just more than 10 percent cases at the beginning of June to more than 80 percent of cases by mid-July.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is monitoring more than 10 other variants in addition to B.1.621, the variant popping up in South Florida.

Only time will provide more information about B.1.621, Sellick said.

“If this thing is really more transmissible and goes from 2 percent [of infections] to 30 percent or to 60 percent; we don’t want to see that,” he said. “It has to be more fit than the delta variant. It would have to be more transmissible.”

It doesn’t take much time for variants to spread, especially among unvaccinated people, said Preeti N. Malani, chief health officer and a professor of medicine in the Division of Infectious Diseases at the University of Michigan.

Malani pointed to drug company Biogen’s annual leadership conference in February 2020, from which the coronavirus spread across Massachusetts and the country, as an example of how quickly variants can spread.

“If you have a lot of unvaccinated people gathering and then they’re going back home, you could have very rapid transmission in few weeks,” she said.

Concerns about variants really set in when they are more contagious or elude the vaccine, she said.

Many worries about variants and further infections can be mitigated with more people choosing to get vaccinated, but that effort has become like a “whack-a-mole” initiative as new variants emerge and fears about vaccination hinder progress, Malani said.

“This concept of risk is interesting. We understand we take risks with a lot of things,” she said, mentioning car travel or late-night dog walks as examples. “With coronavirus, that risk seems so high to some and to others it’s not. [The risk is] somewhere in the middle. The risk of vaccination is really rare. As we move forward, the risk is not going to go to zero anytime soon.”

As the delta variant continues to wreak havoc across the country, along with other coronavirus variants making their debut in new infections, it might be time to reconsider travel and social plans even if one is vaccinated, experts say.

“This is a novel coronavirus. We’re still learning about it,” Malani said. “Each of these variants bring new challenges.”
 

printer

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Why not include a line from the article,

"That figure equates to 2.44% of COVID-19 deaths in the state since Jan. 1"

Nobody said the vaccine would be perfect. We could have waited eight years to bring it out but we thought the tradeoff if getting the vaccine in arms under a year was a good one.

So does that means 97.56% of the deaths were people without full vaccination?
 
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